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Burn wrote:Wingz has already said she wants to attack it like I attack T-Bone steaks (vigorously btw)

You know it!

Okay, gotcha Burn, no more 30x30s!

Phasewing wrote:Okay, gotcha Burn, no more 30x30s!

That should make things easier for you yeah? One less step you have to worry about.

So now we go through the few hundred images phasewing has and start throwing them into categories? I know a good number are remakes of existing alt models but she has done several new ones. The big question is does phase want to figure all of this out on her own or does the community have any say.

sumowrestler wrote:So now we go through the few hundred images phasewing has and start throwing them into categories? I know a good number are remakes of existing alt models but she has done several new ones. The big question is does phase want to figure all of this out on her own or does the community have any say.

For the images that she's redone to fix the boarders, I imagine they'll simply be swapped but stay where they are.

For the rest of it, I've been keeping an active log of all the new ones she's created. If a time ever came that adding them were possible, they'd already be separated by projected category (land animals, sea creatures, rescue vehicles, etc). When this becomes open to actually start, I can post those lists for community thoughts on adding/removing, because I imagine there is a limit to the number of alts that can be in the system at one time.

I'll run the lists by Phase and see what she thinks, as she was the one who created them, but they are there and organized.

Wingz wrote:

sumowrestler wrote:So now we go through the few hundred images phasewing has and start throwing them into categories? I know a good number are remakes of existing alt models but she has done several new ones. The big question is does phase want to figure all of this out on her own or does the community have any say.

For the images that she's redone to fix the boarders, I imagine they'll simply be swapped but stay where they are.

For the rest of it, I've been keeping an active log of all the new ones she's created. If a time ever came that adding them were possible, they'd already be separated by projected category (land animals, sea creatures, rescue vehicles, etc). When this becomes open to actually start, I can post those lists for community thoughts on adding/removing, because I imagine there is a limit to the number of alts that can be in the system at one time.

I'll run the lists by Phase and see what she thinks, as she was the one who created them, but they are there and organized.

Fair enough and how many new ones has she made. I think most of not all been named.

sumowrestler wrote:

Wingz wrote:

sumowrestler wrote:So now we go through the few hundred images phasewing has and start throwing them into categories? I know a good number are remakes of existing alt models but she has done several new ones. The big question is does phase want to figure all of this out on her own or does the community have any say.

For the images that she's redone to fix the boarders, I imagine they'll simply be swapped but stay where they are.

For the rest of it, I've been keeping an active log of all the new ones she's created. If a time ever came that adding them were possible, they'd already be separated by projected category (land animals, sea creatures, rescue vehicles, etc). When this becomes open to actually start, I can post those lists for community thoughts on adding/removing, because I imagine there is a limit to the number of alts that can be in the system at one time.

I'll run the lists by Phase and see what she thinks, as she was the one who created them, but they are there and organized.

Fair enough and how many new ones has she made. I think most of not all been named.

I couldn't tell you the current amount cause I don't keep track, has to of broken above 250.. 300? Maybe. I could sift through my folders with all my new ones, might take a while to get an accurate count..

edit: I gave a rather weak guess... lol.

Related question for Burn...
Are you able to tweak or add alt classes at all? That might affect a few of the suggestions we could make.

Even if not though, this is fantastic news and well deserved recognition for Phasewing (and Mkall and other)'s hard work in creating these!

Phasewing wrote:

sumowrestler wrote:Fair enough and how many new ones has she made. I think most of not all been named.

I couldn't tell you the current amount cause I don't keep track, has to of broken above 100.. 120? Maybe. I could sift through my folders with all my new ones, might take a while to get an accurate count..

At a glance? WELL over 100. Land animals, alone, there are about 40 new ones - at least 30 of which are brand new while several are different poses of alts already in the database. Mind you, this number doesn't count the ones that simply had their boarders fixed - there are 114, total, in this category alone. (just to give you an idea)

Tomorrow, I'll go back through them, systematically, and pick out the remakes from the brand new ones, but there are a lot.

EDIT: 616 total, including fixed boarders, remodels, and new ones Thank you for your effort with these, Phase! XD They're awesome!

Psychout wrote:Related question for Burn...
Are you able to tweak or add alt classes at all?

Yes.

If Ryan's okay with it we could set up 1 or 2 new classes and add a couple of new alt mode images. Good way to test things.

Burn wrote:

Psychout wrote:Related question for Burn...
Are you able to tweak or add alt classes at all?

Yes.

If Ryan's okay with it we could set up 1 or 2 new classes and add a couple of new alt mode images. Good way to test things.

That would be pretty amazing. If you need any suggestions, feel free to give me a shout, I may have one or two...

Wingz wrote:

Phasewing wrote:

sumowrestler wrote:Fair enough and how many new ones has she made. I think most of not all been named.

I couldn't tell you the current amount cause I don't keep track, has to of broken above 100.. 120? Maybe. I could sift through my folders with all my new ones, might take a while to get an accurate count..

At a glance? WELL over 100. Land animals, alone, there are about 40 new ones - at least 30 of which are brand new while several are different poses of alts already in the database. Mind you, this number doesn't count the ones that simply had their boarders fixed - there are 114, total, in this category alone. (just to give you an idea)

Tomorrow, I'll go back through them, systematically, and pick out the remakes from the brand new ones, but there are a lot.

I gave myself a rather pitifully weak guess... rip.


Ok, so in folders, not counting 30x30s cause those are saved somewhere else now, but including some older requests with better style:

NonTF

208 animals
55 anime/cartoon/etc
8 gadgets/etc
77 games
17 misc
85 vehicles

TF

1 Animated
29 Beast Wars
5 Etc
131 G1
14 OC/Kitbash/Custom
13 Prime
5 RID
17 Movies
22 Unicron Trilogy/AEC

Grand total of 687? should be right.

Guys, if you come across any alt modes that are incredibly dark and the features are hard to make out, just pop a note here and I'll give them a default recolour.

Burn wrote:

Psychout wrote:Related question for Burn...
Are you able to tweak or add alt classes at all?

Yes.

If Ryan's okay with it we could set up 1 or 2 new classes and add a couple of new alt mode images. Good way to test things.

I'm good with this. If you guys start adding new ones, please shoot me a separate email or something so that I make sure to download them and so that I don't overwrite them. When I make a bunch of changes, I just reupload all of the HMW folders in one go, but usually exclude the images because of how many there are.

Burn wrote:Guys, if you come across any alt modes that are incredibly dark and the features are hard to make out, just pop a note here and I'll give them a default recolour.

This is one of my favorite things that you now have the ability to do. It took me a while to get all of that right!

My biggest regret with this game is that the images are all so small to begin with. I wish they were larger (100 pixels wide or larger) so that I could do more with them. It'd be really awesome to have two versions of each image, something like the "pretty" display version (which could be what the original image was) and the in-game icon which is the smaller one color icon.

Screenshot of dashboard section where we can change the default color for an icon.

Seibertron wrote:Screenshot of dashboard section where we can change the default color for an icon.

That is a gorgeous layout! Thank you very much!

Seibertron wrote:My biggest regret with this game is that the images are all so small to begin with. I wish they were larger (100 pixels wide or larger) so that I could do more with them. It'd be really awesome to have two versions of each image, something like the "pretty" display version (which could be what the original image was) and the in-game icon which is the smaller one color icon.

Hey Phasewing! You interested in making up some larger icons?

I've shown Wingz the dashboard, between her and I we can start working through and uploading any new images and replacing old ones if you want.

Bigger doesn't quite mean prettier... what about the alts not of my origin? What would be done for those? Blown up or something? o.o

Not saying no, just kind of curious.

Burn wrote:between her and I we can start working through and uploading any new images and replacing old ones if you want.

Phasewing wrote:Not saying no

Selective reading at its best!

Bell AH-1 Cobra, Bell 525 Relentless, Augusta Westland, Mil MI-8 Hip, SA-330 Puma


Griffon, Barghest(LotRO), Turtle(LotRO), Grodbog Worker(LotRO), Deep Claw(LotRO)



Well... I tested 100x100px. Not sure if I like the idea and look of it, but eh... /shrug

AH-1 Cobra Helicopter, Griffon

Phasewing wrote:Well... I tested 100x100px. Not sure if I like the idea and look of it, but eh... /shrug

AH-1 Cobra Helicopter, Griffon

I actually really like that Very well done!

That Griffon looks pretty cool at 100x100.

Yellowjacket Wasp, Bald-Faced Hornet, Praying Mantis, Termite, Primeval Hydra


Flaptrap, Wind Piercer, CW Brawl, MP G1 Bumblebee, MP G1 Bluestreak


MP G1 Ratbat, CW Bombshell, Animated Grimlock, AoE Optimus Prime, AoE Vehicon

I like the sound of bigger alt images; it could mean more detailed and thusly more effective...
I mean, think about it, at 100x100, an alt mode of - say - a ship from the Honorverse could have the hammerheads and gundecks properly visible whereas at 50x50 it would simply end up looking like a grey hot dog...