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What "seat" would you be referring to?

Please, don't bait with that face.

It would seem as though you do not favor my faction choice. But it is my choice, a choice so minor it should virtually be ignored, is my point. Nobody here has mentioned user factions except for you, on multiple occasions, and it comes across as if you take it that seriously.

Bumblebee. Thanks for that hot mess, Mike.

PrimeStriker wrote:What "seat" would you be referring to?

Please, don't bait with that face.

It would seem as though you do not favor my faction choice. But it is my choice, a choice so minor it should virtually be ignored, is my point. Nobody here has mentioned user factions except for you, on multiple occasions, and it comes across as if you take it that seriously.

Bumblebee. Thanks for that hot mess, Mike.

The one that is front row, right in the middle. As in the one that is set up for the room that was created just for the execution of Airachnia and Silas.

Then again... Be glad that I am not the Japanese version of Airachnia. She comes off a bit... Boy crazy.

Oh... And I try to be a bit different with that. I kind of look for things tied to a person, and what not. You can say that it is the writer in me.

Mhm. Well I personally think we should continue conversation on the Official TFP Discussion thread, just so we don't make this the longest thread about an episode summary ever.

How did I manage to double post that? Damn iPhone

PrimeStriker wrote:Mhm. Well I personally think we should continue conversation on the Official TFP Discussion thread, just so we don't make this the longest thread about an episode summary ever.

What is there about TF: Prime for you guys to continue? It's all senseless bickering and baiting that's going back and forth between you two, and we don't need that to carry over to the main discussion thread.

If you two can't come to find some common ground, then one of you simply needs to be the better man and just walk away, regardless of any response the other person might give next. If one of you says, "I done" and walks off, even if the other guy spikes back with whatever remark, just ignore it and head on your way. Only come back if there's actually something worth responding to, like something that pertains to the new episode that this topic was originally about.


With that said, has no one pondered what Red Energon might be?

Oh please, like you would ever walk away from this type of row. If someone said something you disagreed with or if you thought for a second it looked like someone knew something about Transformers than you did, then you would be picking away at them over and over and over and over again.

Don't come on here posting like you are the voice of reason. Hypocrite!!

Sabrblade wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:Mhm. Well I personally think we should continue conversation on the Official TFP Discussion thread, just so we don't make this the longest thread about an episode summary ever.

What is there about TF: Prime for you guys to continue? It's all senseless bickering and baiting that's going back and forth between you two, and we don't need that to carry over to the main discussion thread.

If you two can't come to find some common ground, then one of you simply needs to be the better man and just walk away, regardless of any response the other person might give next. If one of you says, "I done" and walks off, even if the other guy spikes back with whatever remark, just ignore it and head on your way. Only come back if there's actually something worth responding to, like something that pertains to the new episode that this topic was originally about.


With that said, has no one pondered what Red Energon might be?

Well, I was referring to all of us that were talking about various TFP topics on a thread specifically designed for one episode.

Besides, I thought we were over that, seeing how the most recent comments weren't as argumentative as previous comments.

And I've been thinking Red Energon is the "secret weapon meant to destroy the Autobots" from Out of the Past.

Scourgescream wrote:Oh please, like you would ever walk away from this type of row. If someone said something you disagreed with or if you thought for a second it looked like someone knew something about Transformers than you did, then you would be picking away at them over and over and over and over again.

Don't come on here posting like you are the voice of reason. Hypocrite!!

We already have 2 flames that are causing an inferno, and don't need a 3rd & 4th.

Sabrblade wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:Mhm. Well I personally think we should continue conversation on the Official TFP Discussion thread, just so we don't make this the longest thread about an episode summary ever.

What is there about TF: Prime for you guys to continue? It's all senseless bickering and baiting that's going back and forth between you two, and we don't need that to carry over to the main discussion thread.

If you two can't come to find some common ground, then one of you simply needs to be the better man and just walk away, regardless of any response the other person might give next. If one of you says, "I done" and walks off, even if the other guy spikes back with whatever remark, just ignore it and head on your way. Only come back if there's actually something worth responding to, like something that pertains to the new episode that this topic was originally about.


With that said, has no one pondered what Red Energon might be?

Wait - Besides the misunderstandings... We both dislike Silas. And I started to find him annoying when he started to become obsessed with both the Autobots and Decepticons. And now... I am annoyed that he may have become either the first Headmaster or the first Powermaster.

And with Red Energon... We know that Energon has its standard effects. Dark Energon has increased effects, but can allow Unicron control them. And that Artificial Energon had similar increased effects as Dark Energon, but seems to have the aggressive side of steroids. So with Red Energon... And seeing how Starscream is aiming for it... I say that it is something that gives energy, but also places the person in a state where anybody and everybody is his/her enemy.

You know, if Starscream is after it, it could have something to do with his missing T-cog. Maybe it allows for part regeneration or can be used in place of the T-cog.

I thought he was shown to have replaced his T-cog out of one of his clones?

Bubbah wrote:You know, if Starscream is after it, it could have something to do with his missing T-cog. Maybe it allows for part regeneration or can be used in place of the T-cog.

iguanabytes wrote:I thought he was shown to have replaced his T-cog out of one of his clones?

What iguanabytes said is true. He obtained a new T-Cog from one of his clones. However, he was last seen about to do the process when another event came up. And that ended up giving him the new armor upgrade.

However, even with the new T-Cog and armor at hand, he does need Energon to survive. And with him being the enemy of both the Autobots and Decepticons, he has nobody but himself to rely on when it comes to obtaining what he needs.

Besides... I have a feeling like he is going to be the one who finds Airachnia's severed piece at some point and make a clone of her from that piece. And with her actual self in stasis, he will end up having a pawn that could help him control the Insecticons... Which would help him get his revenge.

iguanabytes wrote:I thought he was shown to have replaced his T-cog out of one of his clones?

Well, yes and no. He took it, but got interrupted by the relics. I don't know if it's been confirmed if he finished the installation, considering he used a hover-scooter to mobilize in the Antarctic. He's just got badass Apex Armor now.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Besides... I have a feeling like he is going to be the one who finds Airachnia's severed piece at some point and make a clone of her from that piece. And with her actual self in stasis, he will end up having a pawn that could help him control the Insecticons... Which would help him get his revenge.

I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

PrimeStriker wrote:

iguanabytes wrote:I thought he was shown to have replaced his T-cog out of one of his clones?

Well, yes and no. He took it, but got interrupted by the relics. I don't know if it's been confirmed if he finished the installation, considering he used a hover-scooter to mobilize in the Antarctic. He's just got badass Apex Armor

See that's what I thought too, he had access to the T-cog but he's been unable to install it yet. Plus come to think of it, he may need some help installing that bad boy haha. There's gotta be something speficially about Red Energon that they have SS going after it instead of anyone else. Unless maybe it's a super concentrate type Energon to help power the Apex Armor.

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

The case here is tied to that fact that the writers created a "bookmark" - As in a scene for us to remember at a later date. In this case, the scene where a piece of Airachnid is flung off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBlRc8_q8gw

That, and Arcee does not know that Starscream possesses Cybertronian cloning technology. Bulkhead might, but I do not think he has realized it yet. And Megatron does, but does not seem to care much for its usefulness.

Which pretty much means that unless Arcee snuck that piece in with her (as I do not recall if any of the Autobots were in possession of it) as a trophy, Starscream will find it and use it for his revenge.

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

The case here is tied to that fact that the writers created a "bookmark" - As in a scene for us to remember at a later date. In this case, the scene where a piece of Airachnid is flung off.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBlRc8_q8gw[/youtube]

That, and Arcee does not know that Starscream possesses Cybertronian cloning technology. Bulkhead might, but I do not think he has realized it yet. And Megatron does, but does not seem to care much for its usefulness.

Which pretty much means that unless Arcee snuck that piece in with her (as I do not recall if any of the Autobots were in possession of it) as a trophy, Starscream will find it and use it for his revenge.

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

Just remember though, it's not a pure cloning machine ... He still needs blank protoforms in order to be able to clone, and in that episode he used all 5 to create his armada. So unless he's got spares, he's out of luck. We haven't seen for sure whether he does or not, so it's pure speculation on my part.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories

PrimeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories

Your know, cloning Breakdown would be an interesting way to introduce Swerve (unless he's just another toy-only guy).

Sabrblade wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories

Your know, cloning Breakdown would be an interesting way to introduce Swerve (unless he's just another toy-only guy).

The only way we'll ever get a toy of Swerve in the U.S is if Hasbro makes their own Breakdown mold. Remember, they're too cheap to take off the AM ports on Breakdown, let-alone Swerve.

PrimeStriker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories

Your know, cloning Breakdown would be an interesting way to introduce Swerve (unless he's just another toy-only guy).

The only way we'll ever get a toy of Swerve in the U.S is if Hasbro makes their own Breakdown mold. Remember, they're too cheap to take off the AM ports on Breakdown, let-alone Swerve.

I meant "introduce Swerve" in the cartoon. He'd just be a toyless character in the U.S.

Sabrblade wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:I can't understand that. If Airachnid is in a stasis pod at Autobot HQ, how will he redeem it/her without physically going there (which would require Autobot HQ coordinates).

Which makes me wonder if they can use that technology to replicate a Silas-free Breakdown. Or even a Nemesis Prime with its own personality and Cybertronian technology.

They could clone Breakdown. I wouldn't consider Breakdown the same though, even if he has all of his old memories

Your know, cloning Breakdown would be an interesting way to introduce Swerve (unless he's just another toy-only guy).

The only way we'll ever get a toy of Swerve in the U.S is if Hasbro makes their own Breakdown mold. Remember, they're too cheap to take off the AM ports on Breakdown, let-alone Swerve.

I meant "introduce Swerve" in the cartoon. He'd just be a toyless character in the U.S.

Yeah, I understand. I was just responding to "(unless he's just another toy-only guy)."

PrimeStriker wrote:Yeah, I understand. I was just responding to "(unless he's just another toy-only guy)."

That was in reference to the possibility of him not being in the cartoon and thus being toy-only. Just becuase he toy a Takara-mold doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In no part of my post did I mean to hint at the idea of Hasbro releasing Swerve.

Sabrblade wrote:

PrimeStriker wrote:Yeah, I understand. I was just responding to "(unless he's just another toy-only guy)."

That was in reference to the possibility of him not being in the cartoon and thus being toy-only. Just becuase he toy a Takara-mold doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In no part of my post did I mean to hint at the idea of Hasbro releasing Swerve.

Neither did I say you did. I was simply referring to the fact that Swerve was a Takara release, and I didn't think Hasbro would take a character from Japan's line for their own show without importing it, or making the mold here, which would require a Breakdown one way or the other.

Wow... I missed a lot here.

With the previous topic at hand, Bubbah was right. But I think that the only Decepticon who is capable of building a functioning space bridge can find a few extra blank protoforms.

Oh... And with Breakdown, I kind of see Hasbro using a variation of the Takara Tomy mold. Maybe one with two Breakdown heads and a Silas head... All removable. But will they do it? Doubtful. But I hope I am wrong.

Besides, I am already contempt with my (first-run) AM-11 Arcee. Granted, her figure is not series accurate... But the packaging is one of my favorites in my collection. But even then, saying all of this has me wonder about the following:

1) What is Red Energon?
2) Will Starscream find that one piece of Airachnid?
3) Why have I not noticed the words "BAD WOLF" on the TARDIS before?
4) If Jackie is the new teammate, does this mean we will see another teammate join in season 3?
5) Are the Rescue Bots this continuity's answer to Headmasters Jr.?
6) Will Silas be the very first Headmaster?
7) Who is this superhero? (Sarge? No... Rosemary, the telephone operator? No... Henry, the mild-manner janitor that sounds like Jazz? "Could be.")
Will Skyfire ever join the cast?
9) Will Megatron ever become Galvatron?
10) What does Takara Tomy have in mind with the series, since they seem to be going their own direction with PRIME.

..... Hmmm...

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Oh... And with Breakdown, I kind of see Hasbro using a variation of the Takara Tomy mold. Maybe one with two Breakdown heads and a Silas head... All removable. But will they do it? Doubtful. But I hope I am wrong.

Well, Hasbro confirmed they're not using the Takara AM mold because it's too expensive to get the AM ports removed and mass-produce. I doubt we'll see that Breakdown mold here. They'll come up with their own mold, and it will be utter crap, and I will praise that day I ordered AM-12 Breakdown.

PrimeStriker wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:Oh... And with Breakdown, I kind of see Hasbro using a variation of the Takara Tomy mold. Maybe one with two Breakdown heads and a Silas head... All removable. But will they do it? Doubtful. But I hope I am wrong.

Well, Hasbro confirmed they're not using the Takara AM mold because it's too expensive to get the AM ports removed and mass-produce. I doubt we'll see that Breakdown mold here. They'll come up with their own mold, and it will be utter crap, and I will praise that day I ordered AM-12 Breakdown.

It's Hasbro. And with Hasbro, I am surprise they were not the company that made the "Tony Tony Chopper" themed toilet paper I had spotted at the Toys"R"Us in Ikebukuro.

And best of luck getting him. I personally feel that the figure looks as nice as the packaging. Plus, his Arms Micron kinda fits who he is.