Dead Metal wrote:You want this debate? Go and check the whole show again and bring forth actual evidence or anything that would suggest that it's a lie. Go on, unless you find it, and with this I want episode number and scene including it's time mark,
I already have provided that in a reply to SB and will now do so again........season 3's "Call of the Primitives".Primacron's Assistant claims that he and
THE Primacron had built some of the "primitive" Transformers way back in the past.
There you go, I sited the name of the episode, the line of dialog and the character that spoke the dialog.If you still want the time frame and a vid clip I would be happy to provide it................but I'm sure you remember this episode well.
and I remind you, you asked for
"evidence or anything" that
suggest, the Quints being creators is a lie.Some one else claiming to have created some of the early transformers in the past does
suggest the possibility the Quints lied.
this will be nothing more than back when you debated why WFC is G1,
sorry buddy but you seem to be mixxed up........I never argued that WFC was G1, as as matter of fact I pretty much argued the opposite due to characters like the Aerialbots [and others] being in it.I may have also , and very likely, argued the possibility of WFC as yet an other "G1" universe like Dreamwave ans IDW.
And I certainly cited the claims of the games creators, but thats not the same as arguing their claims.
or when you tried to disprove my claim that Batman as we know him today isn't the exact same Batman from his original appearance by proving it.
I wasnt trying to disprove anything in that conversation, I was just adding more info into the debate.
So yea, until then, you're still just a clown who only wants to waste my time.
dude, you know me better then that.I'm just trying to start up a friendly conversation or debate on G1 issues.Its been some time since I've partaken or even seen an interesting one around these parts.
Sorry you feel so harshly about it......I'll reply to the rest of your post now, feel free to ignore it if you like.
Nothing, absolutely nothing stated outside the fiction of the series is canon, even if some of it, or all of it ends up in the fiction at some point.s It only canon when its inside the fiction.
And even then the info is not beyond reproach or scrutiny.All information has an innate value, and that value is determined by the source of the info itself from within the series.
Yes, the dead Primes echoed the quints claims, but its extremely possible they didnt know any better.Each of those Primes seemed to be reciting history they lived thru, information they themselfs was given or taught.Not one of them seemed to know all of the history.And its not like the Matrix and its info was easy to retrieve.S theres no reason to believe the dead Primes would know any possible "secrets" of their creatio.
On top of that we saw that the Quints experimented with different kinds of products before settling on the TFs.
that helps my argument, it doesnt hurt it.
It is naive of you to believe that you have any ground what so ever to contradict the show, since the Quints plot was always presented as fact, nothing in the show contradicts it.
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as I pointed out earlier..........season 3's "Call of the Primitives".Primacron's Assistant claims that he and
THE Primacron had built some of the "primitive" Transformers way back in the past.
That serves as a bit of a contradiction.And again, the Quints cannot be trusted.