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Bounti76 wrote:Ryan....just out of curiosity, why not keep these? Too rare? Not what you personally collect?

I'd rather finish off my G1 Japanese collection with Galaxy Shuttle, Blue Bacchus, Black Shadow, Browning, Dai Atlas and the rest of the Big Powered guys, Battle Gaia, Guard City, or Grandus. I'm sure I'll regret selling them one day. I felt it was really important for Transformers fans around the world to have some of these rare unreleased G2 figures properly photographed before they headed off to someone's private collection. I usually keep everything but with another baby on the way in November and with Seibertron.com being a dealer at TFcon in a few weeks, the money from these will be better used elsewhere with my business at this time.

Surprised to see the Prime's mouthplate isn't red.

Ever since I first heard of these guys (and the combat here theme) I always figured these patriotic repaints might have been planned to support the Desert Storm in Iraq. Wasnt G2 going on around that time in 1992 ? I wonder if they got cancelled because the war ended before production ? Maybe someone who knows timelines better can elaborate...

Rated X wrote:Ever since I first heard of these guys (and the combat here theme) I always figured these patriotic repaints might have been planned to support the Desert Storm in Iraq. Wasnt G2 going on around that time in 1992 ? I wonder if they got cancelled because the war ended before production ? Maybe someone who knows timelines better can elaborate...

In the US, Generation 2 ran between 1992 and 1995, X. The first Gulf War was in 1990 and 1991, and with the repaints conceived in 1995 (all canceled figures were for that year) there's no link at all to that war.

It is pretty weird that the canceled Hero and Autoroller repaints were army themed, and it can't be coincidence. In fact, the whole G2 run happened during the Yugoslav Wars, with Bosnia being of particular interest.

Sabrblade wrote:Surprised to see the Prime's mouthplate isn't red.

If I recall correctly, it was in one of the catalog pictures of this figure, which is probably what hasbro referenced when coming up with color scheme for the generations combat hero optimus. I'm on my cell phone at the moment so I can't verify due to limited connectivity at the restaurant I'm at right now.

Allow me:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Allow me:

Bingo. And that's why generations combat hero optimus has a red face.

As a G2 enthusiast, you'd not believe how amazingly awesome/ridiculous I find the four star general O. Prime. I genuinely love the generations G2 hero prime from hasbro's Ultimate gift set a few years back, even more because of these galleries. You know if the club made this G2 Combat Hero Megatron from of the deluxe tank megatrons, i'd buy it, even if that mold is a bit crap XD

i wish i hadnt missed out on the g2 figures back in the day!

Huh, he does look better with a silver mouthplate! I think I'll try to paint that on my GDO Combat Hero Optimus, I love everything about that toy except for the red on his face.
Also, congratulations on your baby, Ryan!

SW's SilverHammer wrote:As a G2 enthusiast, you'd not believe how amazingly awesome/ridiculous I find the four star general O. Prime. I genuinely love the generations G2 hero prime from hasbro's Ultimate gift set a few years back, even more because of these galleries. You know if the club made this G2 Combat Hero Megatron from of the deluxe tank megatrons, i'd buy it, even if that mold is a bit crap XD

I'll just never understand the dislike for the Classics tank Megatron. It makes me sad.

Thinking about it, it was a missed chance to have tank Megatron in those colors in the Botcon G2 redux set.

Awesome galleries of unreleased figures. It's nice getting a look at these rarities!

Can anyone here tell if the service ribbon's on Optimus Prime's chest mean anything?

Continuing the Seibertron.com look at some Transformers Generation 2 exclusives, we are pleased to share two new galleries of European releases Archforce and Sureshot, in our highly detailed high-def high-quality galleries! These ain't your parents' Transformers kids - though they do look uncannily similar to Megatron and Optimus Prime...


Generation 2 Sureshot
















Generation 2 Archforce

Who and who?

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Who and who?

Those are the European releases of the Hero Optimus Prime and Megatron figures. But instead of having doubles of any character on the shelves,
Hasbro UK decided to give them new names and remove the original names from the stickers. Hence we get G2 Sureshot and G2 Archforce.

Wow. The only difference is the bio and names on the packagings, and no nametags on the bots. The most ridiculous thing is those variants must be worth a gonzillion pesos.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Wow. The only difference is the bio and names on the packagings, and no nametags on the bots. The most ridiculous thing is those variants must be worth a gonzillion pesos.

so only a few hundred dollars ?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Wow. The only difference is the bio and names on the packagings, and no nametags on the bots. The most ridiculous thing is those variants must be worth a gonzillion pesos.

You'd think that, but in Europe they're commonplace. I've seen G2 Sureshot loose and complete go for just €20.

I wonder if Seibertron is selling these.

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:
I wonder if Seibertron is selling these.

Nope these ones I'll be keeping like I do all of my other figures (with the sole exception being the unproduced Combat Heroes). I think Archforce and Sureshot make a better G2 Megatron and Optimus Prime because they don't have the ridiculous text on their chests declaring their names.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Wow. The only difference is the bio and names on the packagings, and no nametags on the bots. The most ridiculous thing is those variants must be worth a gonzillion pesos.

You'd think that, but in Europe they're commonplace. I've seen G2 Sureshot loose and complete go for just €20.

I paid $164 for the pair shipped from Greece. A little higher than it looks like some people have been able to get them for but much less than this pair used to go for a few years ago. These used to be hard to find ... it seems like somewhere in Europe either found cases of these or just started selling more of them online.

Maybe it's simply a matter of different market sentiments. I know to the US some EU toys are well-sought after, and thus fetch a high price, but here in Europe we're like "meh".

Some of the g2 figures are surprisingly articulated.

RodimusPrimeUkraine1 wrote:Some of the g2 figures are surprisingly articulated.

Yes, the later half of G2 was when the designers struck gold with combining articulation with transformation. True, it was limited to certain groups like the Laser Rods and Cyberjets, but the seed was planted...