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Poor Superion. Imagine having knee joints ABOVE the bottom of your hip pockets. Walking up stairs, hell even walking over bumpy ground is going to be hard work.


No nerdgasms over this one.

Menasor? Maybe. If the individual robots are unique and good.

Seibertron.com will shortly have images from the presentation too - watch this space!

Now the long, agonizingly-boring wait for new toys in the displays.

Am I the only one who noticed that the hands and the feet of the combiners are the same pieces? That's clearly the thumb on the back of the feet and the toes in front are the things protruding off the fists. The fingers flip out from under the foot like Kenzan's. I don't mind it at all though.

I'm really looking forward to these as I can get a whole combiner for the cost of one piece of a third party one. Factor in sales and the random coupon and you might even be able to get two for the price of a center piece.

Not only is the price just right, they really don't look that far off from Uranus or Intimidator. People just really need to get over themselves with all the Hasbro hate.

As for there possibly being four complete combiners, my money's on Computron and Predaking or Abominus. Computron is the current plaything of third party companies with a second version next year I believe. Predaking was the previous and two of the three aren't even completed yet. Abominus because Hasbro might want to get the jump on the third parties and also because the only other one is the Cyberverse version.

Or they could throw us a curveball and make Piranacon, Monstructor or Grimstone?. Well, there's also The Beast. lol

I had watched the clip on YouTube. The show looks nice. I wonder what the toyline will consist of?

^ Interesting about the combiner hands & feet, nice catch! I don't mind either, they look convincing in both modes.

MGrotusque wrote:I know you think your being witty and super smart and i'm also a fan of sarcasm. But i think you've completely forgotten how pretty much every new combiner Hasbro has ever done in the past decade was almost a complete abomination of nonsense.

Nope. The Energon combiners were decent and well engineered (to the point where it's possible to get more articulation out of them than was originally designed with zero cutting). The individual robot modes were solid and poseable, with good vehicle modes and nice colours, and the combined modes were actually pretty well proportioned, and decently articulated (especially considering previous offerings). Also they had absolutely no partsforming aside from the hands and feet, which formed some really nice weapons in the uncombined modes (and also resulted in CANNON HANDS).

Sure they weren't exactly Hercules quality, but they were like £6 a limb, and £9 for the torso- and they were made when the line's budget was nearly exhausted. For what they were, they were brilliant. They've aged badly, but then toys do- technology marches on.

FoC Bruticus could have been a lot better, but then he had a lot asked of him- his components had to form an arm AND a leg (or a torso in Onslaught's case) in addition to a vehicle and a robot, based on models that relied on animation magic to transform. Coupled with the economy forcing budget restrictions and the usual stringent safety tests these things have to undergo, I'd say he turned out alright. Blast Off can be compressed into a much better arm-mode, and let us not forget that FOC Bruticus is one of the only combiners ever that (aside from combining the weapons, which is optional) requires absolutely no partsforming whatsoever. Now that's impressive.

The other thing is that the main reason Hasbro hasn't made many good combiners...is because Hasbro hasn't made many combiners full stop. It would be like accusing them of never making any good toys that turn into penguins- there's only been 1 (technically a Takara release but still).

Yes i understand about child safety laws and budget restrictions but that has nothing to do with properly proportioned and aesthetically pleasing combiners.

Actually it has everything to do with that. Making a toy transform into a good-looking, well-articulated robot and a vehicle, and then turn into a part of a larger robot (which often is based on a character from a crappy Saturday morning 80s cartoon who transformed with the power of bad animation), which in turn must look good and be well articulated, takes clever engineering, which requires a lot of effort and, you guessed it, money. Thus, budget restrictions will inevitably hamper the chances of a good-looking combiner. Coupled with the fact that kids probably won't appreciate figures overly intricate figures (especially ones that break through simple play due to the huge amount of hinges and tabs) you can see exactly why those factors have something to do with it.

The combiner formula was established in the 80's and they seemed to have completely forgotten how to do it till just now.

If by the combiner "formula" you mean "robot forms torso, 4 other robots form limbs" then yeah, it was established in the 80s. If you mean "how to make a good toy" then no.

Let's not forget that most of the G1 combiner toys were total shite as well- much worse than anything Hasbro has brought out recently. Half of the combined mode's body was made of extra junk that had nowhere to go when they weren't combined, the combined mode has terrible articulation (and the individual robots were basically tiny bricks), quite often the combined form looked like garbage anyway (Bruticus is ridiculously squat, Devastator is a hideous shade of pastel green and is a gangly mess, Superion has birthing hips, Menasor is wearing a hoodie, Predaking is obese and Computron is a towering block of random techy parts) and the combined forms often had major structural issues (like Superion's oh-so-fragile hips). I'll take Energon Devastator over the G1 toy any day.

Things change. The target audience changes, the economy changes, technology changes. It's not the 80s anymore. Things are different. Not everything has to be G1.

And of course, for all you complain about how Hasbro should accommodate the collectors instead of the children, put yourself in their shoes. On the one hand you have a huge audience who will be happy with anything so long as it looks cool. On the other hand you have a much smaller audience who will denounce your stuff as the worst thing ever if it isn't made exactly to their (often conflicting) specifications- in other words, a nano-engineered spot-on replica of a character from a badly animated, dreadfully-written Saturday-morning merchandising cartoon from the 80s. Now which would you rather cater to?

The panel and new reveals may be over, but the coverage of San Diego Comic Con is still coming! Thanks to our (boss)man on the scene, site owner Seibertron, we have our gallery of images shown at the Hasbro Brand Panel! The gallery ranges from recaps of already-released figures, soon-to-be-released figures, and newly revealed figures, such as the Generations: Combiner Wars Aerialbots, Stunticons (whose leader, Motormaster, like Bombshell, has reclaimed his true name), and our first look at a handful of toys from the new Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2015) line, including our first look at the Warrior-class (the new Deluxe-class) Bumblebee! The full gallery can be viewed here.













Enjoy these images for now, as later in the day we'll get the official images of these new reveals!

Mykltron wrote:Poor Superion. Imagine having knee joints ABOVE the bottom of your hip pockets. Walking up stairs, hell even walking over bumpy ground is going to be hard work.


No nerdgasms over this one.

Menasor? Maybe. If the individual robots are unique and good.

Hey Look at where the Knees are!! I guess he can walk up those stairs after all.

Mykltron wrote:Poor Superion. Imagine having knee joints ABOVE the bottom of your hip pockets. Walking up stairs, hell even walking over bumpy ground is going to be hard work.


No nerdgasms over this one.

Menasor? Maybe. If the individual robots are unique and good.

He has actual knee joints, you know. Or at least appears to.

GIMME THAT WARRIORS CLASS BUMBLEBEE!!!!

There's no way i would swap out these for my 3rdp combiners .

But there individual bot modes don't look that bad . i will pick these up to mess around with for there bot modes and keep the 3rdp in combined mode .

Motormaster pulls off the mold a hell of a lot better than prime . MM is a must buy .

Edit . Shame Breakdown looks like he's made of Lego , Still it's about time this happened .

Shuttershock wrote:

Your pic is broken. It doesn't allow hotlinking.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Your pic is broken. It doesn't allow hotlinking.

It's going for me.

mooncake623 wrote:

Mykltron wrote:Poor Superion. Imagine having knee joints ABOVE the bottom of your hip pockets. Walking up stairs, hell even walking over bumpy ground is going to be hard work.


No nerdgasms over this one.

Menasor? Maybe. If the individual robots are unique and good.

Hey Look at where the Knees are!! I guess he can walk up those stairs after all.

Hey, we replied to the exact same comment to say the same thing at the same time! Weird.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Your pic is broken. It doesn't allow hotlinking.

Huh, weird. I can see it fine.

Oh well, just a joke about Swerve and combining anyway.

And... now the pic is working.

Sabrblade wrote:GIMME THAT WARRIORS CLASS BUMBLEBEE!!!!

What was warrior class? hope it isn't tiny maybe its a rename for the deluxe or Voyager classes though it is time for a new bumblebee since my alliance version getting worn out and it looks beast

Menasor looks like he has a giant bow tie!

Autobot tap out wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:GIMME THAT WARRIORS CLASS BUMBLEBEE!!!!

What was warrior class? hope it isn't tiny maybe its a rename for the deluxe or Voyager classes though it is time for a new bumblebee since my alliance version getting worn out and it looks beast

Warriors = Deluxe.

Autobot tap out wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:GIMME THAT WARRIORS CLASS BUMBLEBEE!!!!

What was warrior class? hope it isn't tiny maybe its a rename for the deluxe or Voyager classes though it is time for a new bumblebee since my alliance version getting worn out and it looks beast

It's a renamed Deluxe Class.

So how tall are these combiners?

I am officially un-miffed!

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Oh wait...these toys don't turn up in my area....

those combiners look awesome but unless the prices drop im going to have to pass, it would cost me almost $85 for one gestalt. Thats not including the time & gas wasted looking for them. And i have the feeling that they are not full size deluxes. As for the rest theres nothing that stands out, RiD looks worse than TFP & AoE. strongarm looks ok but not a must have. And i see that they are keeping with the one step changers instead of bringing back legions, i hope that changes but i doubt it.