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I'd add Prime First Edition Prime. But that's me. : D

I'd like to add the Legends Optimus Prime to the runners up. I own the Nemesis Prime version and he is awesome. Exactly what I want out of a little prime- cool truck mode, cool robot mode, just cool all round.

Delta Magnus wrote:I'd like to add the Legends Optimus Prime to the runners up. I own the Nemesis Prime version and he is awesome. Exactly what I want out of a little prime- cool truck mode, cool robot mode, just cool all round.

Which Legends Optimus Prime? This?




Or this?




Or some other one that escapes my memory?

The one with Roller, AKA the good one.

Delta Magnus wrote:The one with Roller, AKA the good one.

Well, I think they're both good ones, but what can I say? I'm a sucker for a half-way decent G1 Prime!

Yotsuyasan wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:The one with Roller, AKA the good one.

Well, I think they're both good ones, but what can I say? I'm a sucker for a half-way decent G1 Prime!

I dunno, doesn't the really little one lack knees or something?

In any case I love the Generations Legends Prime.

Delta Magnus wrote:I dunno, doesn't the really little one lack knees or something?

Yes, it lacks knees. And any neck articulation. But he came out in the far distant past of 2011, when dragons roamed the lands, people thought the Earth was flat, and Legends Class toys were more simple affairs. I choose to not hold this against the toy, and judge it for what it is, not what it isn't.

But to each their own. The newer one (from a whole two years later!) is also quite a good toy.

Amazing list guys, I cannot imagine how long it took to come up with this selection. I wouldn't mind seeing a top ten of different characters down the road, maybe every quarter, maybe we could vote.... Once again great job!

This list is almost perfect IMO. I allow the cheat of the first place because MP-01 and 10 balance each other out with their features.

Even if I ADORE God Ginrai and he's in my Optimus collection, I agree for him to not be on the list because he's NOT OPtimus.

Personally, I would have removed Big Convoy because he's not that marvelous for me. Too many shell bits and kibble.
In lieu of Big Convoy, I would have put in Alternity Optimus Prime. This is defenitely the best Alternity mold. So good, that it's the only mold they reused for the Super GT line! Also, seeing Optimus going against the flow and becoming a CAR instead of a truck is quite refreshing!

Ultra Markus wrote:what about classics optimus prime? or CW optimus prime?

CW Optimus is not really Optimus. It's MOTORMASTER cosplaying as Optimus. The sneaky basterd!
As for Classic OP, he's good, but the horrible arm kibble clearly remove him from perfection. Those kibbles should have wraped around his arms or something.

padfoo wrote:Amazing list guys, I cannot imagine how long it took to come up with this selection.

Must have been a while because I don't remember contributing. I remember Will constantly e-mailing all the staff reminding people to keep contributing and I just kept sitting here casually pressing the delete button in the hopes he'd forget about me!

fenrir72 wrote:Aww common Burn. Don't pretend you don't know those anime emotes

I genuinely don't. Not really into anime (mostly because it wasn't easily accessible back in the day before I had a mortgage and crap)

Good honorable mention from me is Transformers Prime First Edition Optimus Prime. I got him, liked him and that's it. 5 years later almost and he's really become my favorite Prime. I got all the ones listed including classics but I don't know why but he's become my default Optimus, he's the one I take him off the shelf most often. I'd love to see a platinum edition with a really solid screen accurate color scheme

My collection of Primes consists mainly of characters that I felt was initially supposed to be a version of the G1 self. That's why I don't have Fire Convoy or Big Convoy....like the only 2 on this list I don't have. Am I mistaken? Should I have those guys if I claim to have every OPtimus Prime? Are they supposed to be a version of Optimus Prime? Fire Convoy was changed to that when he was Americanized but Big Convoy? Is he? I know Lio Convoy is not supposed to be though.

Delta Magnus wrote:I'd like to add the Legends Optimus Prime to the runners up. I own the Nemesis Prime version and he is awesome. Exactly what I want out of a little prime- cool truck mode, cool robot mode, just cool all round.

Do you mean this guy?


Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus Gallery

If yes, then I agree he is a fun little guy. The leg transformation is even more basic than the g1 toy though. Oh and if you do mean this toy, then that's motormaster rather than Nemesis Prime. I don't think they ever made a Nemesis with this mold.

Nemesis Destron wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:
Will there be a top 10 Megatron list?

Crap, you beat me to it!

A Megatron list is coming for sure but it will be top 5 and not top 10. Unlike Optimus, all Megatron toys seem to have a major flaw somewhere and the staff team couldnt come up with a top 10 they all agreed on. So we actually found it easier to just narrow t down to 5 figures we felt really good about with every other decent figure becoming an honourable mention. Also, unlike this list, we actually included all toys called Megatron. The list should come out in a few months.

Yotsuyasan wrote:My my... A top 10 Optimus Prime list! This is a list that appeals to my interests!

I am a bit shocked at the photos used for G1 Prime, since they weren't truly photos of G1 Prime. That was the one that came in a two pack with a Dark of the Moon Optimus Prime, and the two toys shared the DotM Prime's trailer. (And the G1 cab was modified to accommodate, as otherwise the trailer hitch would not have a peg hole to plug a gun into.)

Thanks so much for catching that, it's been fixed along with another tiny edit. Your list is awesome by the way

the beast wars convoys are not optimus prime though.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Even if I ADORE God Ginrai and he's in my Optimus collection, I agree for him to not be on the list because he's NOT OPtimus.

Well, if you remove God Bomber from the equation, he basically is Powermaster Optimus Prime. And I suppose you could even include God Bomber now, thanks to the domestic Powermaster Prime reissue that included him (renamed Apex Bomber). It really is a tricky case with him, as he is one toy that has two completely different fictions as two completely different characters, all pretty much depending on which side of the Pacific you live on.

-Kanrabat- wrote:...I would have put in Alternity Optimus Prime. This is defenitely the best Alternity mold. So good, that it's the only mold they reused for the Super GT line! Also, seeing Optimus going against the flow and becoming a CAR instead of a truck is quite refreshing!

I almost included him in the ones I mentioned, too... But he's just too damn frustrating to transform, I find. And this is coming from someone who finds, say, Masterpiece Megatron a fun transformation. Heck, I transformed my Masterpiece Rodimus last night and found it an entertaining time. But my Alternity Convoy? Ugh... If I transform him at all, it is only because I typically transform all of my Optimi at once.

As far as realistic licensed vehicle based G1 Optimus Primes go, I actually prefer the Alternators/Binaltech Dodge Ram mold over the Alternity mold.

Optimizzy wrote:My collection of Primes consists mainly of characters that I felt was initially supposed to be a version of the G1 self.

That is kind of what I limit myself to these days, due to display space concerns. Here's my collection as it currently is displayed, minus Classics Voyager Prime who is on display on my Classics '84 Autobots shelf.



Mostly G1 or G2 based ones, although I do have a few Transformers Prime ones in there as well. If I ever need to make more room for G1 based ones, though, the Prime ones will be the first to go. Nothing against them as toys, I just know which ones I'd give priority to in my display.

If I had more room, though, my other Optimus Primes that would come out of storage include Transformers Robots In Disguise Optimus Prime (Fire Convoy) in three different scales, a few scales of Armada Prime, a few scales of Cybertron Prime, a bunch of Animated Primes, and a whole gaggle of Primes from the first three live action films. Everything mentioned in this paragraph is enough to fill two more shelves like the ones shown in the photo above. I know this, as once upon a time they did in fact fill the other two shelves on that shelving unit.

But these days, the top shelf has become my "Classics style" '86 Autobot display (only place I could fit Metroplex!) and the bottom shelf has been relegated to, alas, more practical non-Transformers related storage. I think sometimes about trying to reclaim the bottom shelf, but then I'd have to find someplace else for the stuff currently on that shelf...

william-james88 wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I'd like to add the Legends Optimus Prime to the runners up. I own the Nemesis Prime version and he is awesome. Exactly what I want out of a little prime- cool truck mode, cool robot mode, just cool all round.

Do you mean this guy?

I've already had this discussion with Delta Magnus! And it seems he meant this guy:



That's the problem with a character with so many toys. Multiple characters, even, since there are Optimus Primes across many different continuities! It really isn't enough just to identify him by size class and hope everyone knows who you're talking about! You need to be very specific which toy you're talking about!

william-james88 wrote:

Yotsuyasan wrote:(Blah blah wrong Prime pictured blah blah...)

Thanks so much for catching that, it's been fixed along with another tiny edit.

Glad I could be of help!

william-james88 wrote:Your list is awesome by the way

Thanks!

Good list and we all knew this one was coming, right? Personally, I feel that 1984 Optimus should be no. 1, because he's an icon. The second one would be Henkei Convoy, IMO.

Yotsuyasan wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Even if I ADORE God Ginrai and he's in my Optimus collection, I agree for him to not be on the list because he's NOT OPtimus.

Well, if you remove God Bomber from the equation, he basically is Powermaster Optimus Prime. And I suppose you could even include God Bomber now, thanks to the domestic Powermaster Prime reissue that included him (renamed Apex Bomber). It really is a tricky case with him, as he is one toy that has two completely different fictions as two completely different characters, all pretty much depending on which side of the Pacific you live on.

-Kanrabat- wrote:...I would have put in Alternity Optimus Prime. This is defenitely the best Alternity mold. So good, that it's the only mold they reused for the Super GT line! Also, seeing Optimus going against the flow and becoming a CAR instead of a truck is quite refreshing!

I almost included him in the ones I mentioned, too... But he's just too damn frustrating to transform, I find. And this is coming from someone who finds, say, Masterpiece Megatron a fun transformation. Heck, I transformed my Masterpiece Rodimus last night and found it an entertaining time. But my Alternity Convoy? Ugh... If I transform him at all, it is only because I typically transform all of my Optimi at once.

As far as realistic licensed vehicle based G1 Optimus Primes go, I actually prefer the Alternators/Binaltech Dodge Ram mold over the Alternity mold.

I LOVE TF Masterforce. Ginrai is a great character and I really love Ginrai. Honestly, I wonder where "Powermaster Optimus Prime" come from? The theory I have is because Masterforce was never shown outside Japan, they released the first version of the toy with just a bio on the box explaining the story. Is there any European or Amercan comics that show an original story for PM Prime? Because for me, there is only ONE. Ginrai.



As for Alternity Optimus, I find transforming him quite easy. The legs are the most complex part, but it's easy to figure out where everything go. Compared to Bee's ultra hard and tight chest transformation, or the self-destructing seeker mold, I find Alt OP to be a breeze and pretty fun. As much as Megatron in fact. Optimus is also the best Alternity to pose without flopping all over the place.

However, I DESPITE Alternator Optimus. No panels align right in vehicle mode and the shoulder kibbles in bot mode are unsightly. I wont sell him, but he's burried in storage.

RhA wrote:Good list and we all knew this one was coming, right? Personally, I feel that 1984 Optimus should be no. 1, because he's an icon. The second one would be Henkei Convoy, IMO.

Even as a huge fan of the 1984 toy, I'm fine with him at the number three spot. I'd agree with the Masterpiece versions sharing the number one spot, as they are basically the '84 toy reimagined with modern toy engineering and complexity. Just for the original Masterpiece version, I'd insist on a version that comes with the trailer. I know there are many who don't care, but to me G1 Optimus just isn't complete without it!

As for the number two spot... Not sure if I would include Cybertron Optimus there, myself. Maybe I'd move the '84 toy up at least one spot, after all?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I LOVE TF Masterforce. Ginrai is a great character and I really love Ginrai. Honestly, I wonder where "Powermaster Optimus Prime" come from? The theory I have is because Masterforce was never shown outside Japan, they released the first version of the toy with just a bio on the box explaining the story. Is there any European or Amercan comics that show an original story for PM Prime? Because for me, there is only ONE. Ginrai.

I am amused that you're all, "Ginrai!" and I'm all, "Powermaster Optimus Prime!" and yet, judging by your photo technically the toy you have is Powermaster Optimus Prime (I can tell from the stupidly elongated missile on Apex Bomber) and the toy I have is technically Ginrai.

I'd offer to swap toys... But I don't want that stupidly elongated missile!

-Kanrabat- wrote:As for Alternity Optimus, I find transforming him quite easy. The legs are the most complex part, but it's easy to figure out where everything go. Compared to Bee's ultra hard and tight chest transformation, or the self-destructing seeker mold, I find Alt OP to be a breeze and pretty fun. As much as Megatron in fact. Optimus is also the best Alternity to pose without flopping all over the place.

I don't find his legs that difficult. For me, I always have a devil of a time getting his chest transformed properly! But, honestly, I wonder if there might be something wrong with mine. I suspect there may be a piece in his internal structure that is bent or something, making it more difficult then it should be, but not really preventing him from getting to either mode in the end. If so, then I guess it is just my Alternity Optimus that is a pain in the arse to transform, and not all of them!

-Kanrabat- wrote:However, I DESPITE Alternator Optimus. No panels align right in vehicle mode and the shoulder kibbles in bot mode are unsightly. I wont sell him, but he's burried in storage.

Well, I wouldn't put the Alternator one on a top ten list to be sure. His shoulder kibble is, as you say, a bit unslightly. But I actually usually don't have too much trouble getting his panel lines to line up right in vehicle mode. And, while I wouldn't use this in a ranking since it isn't part of the base figure, his vehicle mode looks really good with Reprolabels!



(Pardon the older photo... One of these days, I suppose I should write a review of this guy, which would involve taking newer and better photos.)

Not quoting because clutter.

What I have is a Reissue of God Ginrai. For some reasons, the new safety measure made the missile extra long. It have the fold in hands and the cab is all diecast. So, it IS God Ginrai. Just a reissue. Also, I have a G1 Takara Ultra Magnus Reissue. His missiles are stupid elongated as well. Cherry on the cake, one peg to hold the missile launcher in vehicle mode is all crooked. :/

My Alternity Convoy's chest transform like a breeze so maybe yours is either broken of have a factory error. That suck because getting a replacement will be quite expensive. Maybe get the Super GT version?

It may be the same case for my Alternator because I cant seem to be able to allign the panels of the hood and front of the vehicle for some reason. Also, to make a bad toy even badder, I bought it brand new and the gun-engine have two right halves.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I LOVE TF Masterforce. Ginrai is a great character and I really love Ginrai. Honestly, I wonder where "Powermaster Optimus Prime" come from? The theory I have is because Masterforce was never shown outside Japan, they released the first version of the toy with just a bio on the box explaining the story. Is there any European or Amercan comics that show an original story for PM Prime? Because for me, there is only ONE. Ginrai.

The Marvel comics had an arc where the Original Optimus blew up but some guy saved his personality on a disc and when the Autobots found out they took the disc to Nebulon and had a new body made for him but after the Headmaster incident the Nebulons did something to the atmosphere to make it hazardous to Transformers and the only way they could survive is if they went through the Powermaster process. It's dumb. Hi-Q was Optimuses partner in it. As dumb as it is I personally think after that point is when the comics start to get really good (until that stupid end).

-Kanrabat- wrote:Not quoting because clutter.

What I have is a Reissue of God Ginrai. For some reasons, the new safety measure made the missile extra long. It have the fold in hands and the cab is all diecast.

So, it IS God Ginrai. Just a reissue.

Nope, sorry. What you have is the reissue Powermaster Optimus Prime.



It was based more off of the Ginrai version of the mold, so it included things such as the diecast in the cab and the collapsible hands on the trailer. But you can definitely tell it is Optimus Prime you have because of the elongated missile on the renamed Apex Bomber (because God Bomber just wouldn't be a suitable name for an American toy, I guess.)

I can guarantee that the reissue of God Ginrai, on the other hand, does not have the elongated missile, as the version I have is the reissue.



And as you can see, the missile is not elongated.

Got him for a really good price once upon a time, actually. Found him on eBay, and the seller had him listed as Ginrai, but hadn't also mentioned Optimus Prime anywhere in their auction's title or description. Thus it probably wasn't showing up in most people's searches, as I doubt most people would even think to search for "Ginrai."

-Kanrabat- wrote:Also, I have a G1 Takara Ultra Magnus Reissue. His missiles are stupid elongated as well. Cherry on the cake, one peg to hold the missile launcher in vehicle mode is all crooked. :/

Now that is bizarre. I don't have any G1 Ultra Magnuses, so I can only speak off of second hand knowledge. But the best image I could find of a reissue Ultra Magnus was this:



And as you can see, original length missiles are shown.

Another possible clue: look at the smokestacks. No U.S. reissue of the G1 Optimus Prime cab (which is, of course, shared by Magnus) has had full length smokestacks, and no Takara reissue has used the shortened smokestacks. So are your Magnus's smokestacks full length or shortened?

Did you get your toys (both Optimus/Ginrai and Ultra Magnus) boxed or loose? Are you sure they are Takara versions, and not Hasbro ones? No chance maybe of an unscrupulous seller telling you they were Takara so they could jack up the price?

-Kanrabat- wrote:My Alternity Convoy's chest transform like a breeze so maybe yours is either broken of have a factory error. That suck because getting a replacement will be quite expensive. Maybe get the Super GT version?

I speculated as such. As for replacing it, I had no plans to. As I said, it is a pain in the arse to transform, but not impossible. And I don't like the look of the Super GT version, anyway.

Yotsuyasan wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:My collection of Primes consists mainly of characters that I felt was initially supposed to be a version of the G1 self.

That is kind of what I limit myself to these days, due to display space concerns. Here's my collection as it currently is displayed, minus Classics Voyager Prime who is on display on my Classics '84 Autobots shelf.

Here is mine from a year ago. It doesn't have my MP-10, TT Armor Knight Prime, RID2015 Prime and some various one steps or something. I put mine up in Bot form to conserve space, but It prevents me from taking any out to look at them. I limit myself to a single version of of the mold but recently I've also limited myself to a single example of the iteration. IE, one Prime from AoE and one Prime from RID2015 but I don't always follow this rule. I'm pretty happy with it, but I haven't bought a Fire Convoy or a Big Convoy since I don't consider them versions of Prime.

If the single missile is the ONLY thing what differentiate the two Ginrais, I think it's safe to assume the names are pointless.

As for UM, this is what I got, brand new:
http://chimungmung.com/product_info.php ... ts_id=1966

BBTS offer it too. For some reasons, the missile launchers are not showing. Still, it's say in the description that it have short smokestacks and long missiles. It's also way more expensive than Chimungmung's.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

I love Optimus Prime and am a sucker for his various forms and toys and have bought most of them over the years. The one that nearly killed a Transformers for me altogether, though, was Revenge of the Fallen Leader Class Optimus Prime. The most difficult transformation coupled with a bout of arthritis, made me hate that toy. But to each his own. My favorite, thus far, has been Powermaster Optimus Prime. It's silly because he's a brick but I he was the second toy, first after not one but two deaths, so he was "back." Good times.

-Kanrabat- wrote:If the single missile is the ONLY thing what differentiate the two Ginrais, I think it's safe to assume the names are pointless.

Yeah, just after hitting "submit" on my last post, it occurred to me to express a similar sentiment, but I was too lazy to go back and edit my post. Technically your toy may be Optimus Prime and my toy may be Ginrai, but as long as we are each happy with the toys we have, we can call them whatever we want in our personal collections! And thus, all is good.

-Kanrabat- wrote:As for UM, this is what I got, brand new:
http://chimungmung.com/product_info.php ... ts_id=1966

Yup, definitely the Hasbro version there. Even says, "This toy is original by HASBRO" in the description. Hence why you have elongated missiles on that guy, too.