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Thanks to our friends and sponsors over at TFSource we have our first carded images of Reveal the Shield Wave 2 and Generations Wave 6. These figures are due for release sometime in January. Check out all the images and links below:

Wreck-Gar







Perceptor







G2 Optimus Prime








Bumblebee







Scourge







Sergeant Kup

Sure, make it even more confusing with the line names

So we have Wreck-Gar, Perceptor, Laser Optimus Prime and Bumblebee for Reveal the Shield, and Scourge and Kup for Generations? Just pick a name and stick with it, Hasbro!

Oh come on! Now I want to get all of those, they look great. I'll try to skip Wreck-Gar, since I'm trying to stop getting motorcycle TFs, but he does look quite good and i already have TFA W-G, so I'm probably boned.

Anyone else notice how bad the card art is on Generations Kup & Scourge? Looks like some kid in Grade 9 pumped those out at lunch time.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sure, make it even more confusing with the line names

So we have Wreck-Gar, Perceptor, Laser Optimus Prime and Bumblebee for Reveal the Shield, and Scourge and Kup for Generations? Just pick a name and stick with it, Hasbro!

Agreed. Go with one or the other! And make it Generations, too. RTS makes no sense!

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Sure, make it even more confusing with the line names

So we have Wreck-Gar, Perceptor, Laser Optimus Prime and Bumblebee for Reveal the Shield, and Scourge and Kup for Generations? Just pick a name and stick with it, Hasbro!

Agreed. Go with one or the other! And make it Generations, too. RTS makes no sense!

Yea, so again I have to ask, what is the criteria here for inclusion in a specific line. I mean what exactly sets Kup, and Scourge apart from the rest so they don't get a rubsign and get to be in Reveal the Shield?

Only the cool kids get s rubsign? RTS makes sense, since they get a rubsign, but no other means of identifying them as either Autobot or Decepticon. [sarcasm]So you can't know until you reveal their shield.[/sarcasm]

Someone should tell Wreck-Gar he's missing his axehead.

I'm never one to care about the box artwork, 98% of it ends up in the recycling bin anyways.

they all look awesome! i may have to get bee, i have classics bumblebee but those stripes and yellow look to good to pass up

I want everything but bumblebee. I'm not sure where I'd display optimus. And his feet worry me a little bit. that ankle joint just doesn't look like it's very sturdy

I have no issue with the fact that they brought back the old rub signs but what really gets me is them placing a deluxe class Optimus in this particular line up. There is no mystery whatsoever as to what is on his rub shield and also, he's a G2 design. That last fact alone should mean that he belongs in the Generations line. Yeah, I know that these are marketed (mostly) towards kids but a lot of what Hasbro has been doing with the updates of old characters has been in response to questions/requests from the long-time fan base. That being the case I think Hasbro should try a little harder to not insult our intelligence when honoring our requests. In reference to all of the figures from the old days that they wish to pay tribute to with the RTS or Generations lines, I think they should approach it with the mind set of do it up right or don't do it at all. My excitement for all of the figures they have done for those lines has been dropping with each new posting of info about them.

These look better every time I see them. I'm definitely going for Optimus, Bumblebee, and Scourge. Maybe Perceptor and Kup. But the new Bee just looks so much better with the black stripes.

All of them look pretty awesome, although I'll only be getting Bumblebee and Perceptor. Shame some of the future figures still haven't been mentioned much by Hasbro (>Cough<>Cough< WHEELJACK! >Cough<).

Wreck-Gar's motorcycle looks awesome. I'm a big fan of dual-sport and Dakar Rally type bikes. I like his bot form too, but his face looks way too human for my taste with the light-beige paint(looks like a flesh color to me) and black mustache. I guess his face was a similar color in the movie but I wish they would have gone with a metallic color.

I say quit complaining about why or why not a figure is in a certain line and just be glad we are getting these awesome figures in the first place. Don't like rubsigns? Easy fix, peel off the rubsign and get some reprolabel faction symbols.

all will be mine with the possible exception of laser prime...though i do have the two pack g2 megatron so its a possiblity

That is some fantastic artwork Laser prime has! good job Mr.Anonymous artist!
Makes me wish the toy looked that good

Some third party company should make upgrades for all the "Reveal the Shield" guys so that they can use the clip system that the "Generations" guys have. I mean, with the clip system not applying to the WfC figures, repaints from other lines, or Drift, it's an over-arching gimmick that arches over about six figures, two of whom are repaints. And other than different gimmicks and a couple figures in movie style, how different are Generations and RtS?

The Dude wrote:Some third party company should make upgrades for all the "Reveal the Shield" guys so that they can use the clip system that the "Generations" guys have. I mean, with the clip system not applying to the WfC figures, repaints from other lines, or Drift, it's an over-arching gimmick that arches over about six figures, two of whom are repaints. And other than different gimmicks and a couple figures in movie style, how different are Generations and RtS?

Someone's forgetting RtS Jazz and Tracks, who both have the clip system.

OlivusPrime wrote:All of them look pretty awesome, although I'll only be getting Bumblebee and Perceptor. Shame some of the future figures still haven't been mentioned much by Hasbro (>Cough<>Cough< WHEELJACK! >Cough<).

Ah, so not just me waiting for Hasbro's Wheeljack so I don't have to pay 35 bucks for Takara's.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

OlivusPrime wrote:All of them look pretty awesome, although I'll only be getting Bumblebee and Perceptor. Shame some of the future figures still haven't been mentioned much by Hasbro (>Cough<>Cough< WHEELJACK! >Cough<).

Ah, so not just me waiting for Hasbro's Wheeljack so I don't have to pay 35 bucks for Takara's.

Add a third. Wheeljack was my first Autobot Car figure back in '91, so I'm especially stoked.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

OlivusPrime wrote:All of them look pretty awesome, although I'll only be getting Bumblebee and Perceptor. Shame some of the future figures still haven't been mentioned much by Hasbro (>Cough<>Cough< WHEELJACK! >Cough<).

Ah, so not just me waiting for Hasbro's Wheeljack so I don't have to pay 35 bucks for Takara's.

Add a third. Wheeljack was my first Autobot Car figure back in '91, so I'm especially stoked.

I've never owned G1 Wheeljack, myself. Should be cool to get one.

I like the rubsigns... but having an entirely separate line for them is just... makes little sense to me.

The packaging doesn't make much sense, but as long as the figs come out, I don't care too much what packaging they come in.

Is there any difference between this Bumblebee and the one that came in the Evolution of Bumblebee 3 pack?

i'll get em all with the exception of bee i'll have to see that in person first

eh Sergent kup lost his name too i see

Clever - Maintaining two sublines means they get to keep two colors of packaging on the shelf, meaning we can't just ignore the old HftD figures, we have to rifle through them to find the RtS figures.

As to who and why, I'm guessing the reasoning was...

Scourge - he's unambiguously evil (being, essentially, a demon), and needs to aesthetically match Cyclonus and Galvatron released previously, so standard symbol. (Though a rubsign would have matched him to the Cyclonus Repaint).

Kup - His paint job is way to cheery to have an ambiguous faction, and he's too old to truck, with any of that gimmicky, sneaky stuff, so standard symbol.

Wreck-Gar - Not technically an Autobot anyway, so rubsign.

Bumblebee - Same figure has already been released with standard symbols a couple of times, and he's a spy, so rubsign.

Perceptor - I got nothing, but I like how you have to flip down his chest panel to rub the symbol.

Optimus Prime - The rubsign is just silly, though it will make sense for the Nemesis Prime repaint.

Kibble wrote:The packaging doesn't make much sense, but as long as the figs come out, I don't care too much what packaging they come in.

Is there any difference between this Bumblebee and the one that came in the Evolution of Bumblebee 3 pack?

Yes. Legacy of Bumblebee Classic Bumblebee was just regular Classics Bumblebee with the white switched out for black, and grey for yellow. RtS Bumblebee has the movie inspired racing stripes. If you have the dough and patience, go for United: completely yellow and no chrome.