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ssilipino wrote:=While I think it great they are pre-beasting more BW characters, especially Depth Charge, I really don't approve of the mold. Its small, doesn't off any sie comparison to the actual BW Depth Charge mold, minus the head and the trident.=

ssilipino wrote:But at least when G1 showed up in BW, it wasn't a homage, it WAS G1.

ssilipino wrote:While I think it great they are pre-beasting more BW characters, especially Depth Charge, I really don't approve of the mold. Its small, doesn't off any sie comparison to the actual BW Depth Charge mold, minus the head and the trident.

I had originally planned to transform Galaxy Force Soundwave into DOFP Depth Charge, mainly because a majority of the DOFP's set used Galaxy Force molds, and Soundwave has an appropriate head for Depth Charge. Also his chest piece is similar to the (generic) chest piece on the pre-BW body we can sort of see in "Deep Metal".

ssilipino wrote:I had also planned on repainting Galaxy Force Menasor into DOFP's Protoform-X. I felt he offers enough menacing features for him. Any comments?

xyl360 wrote:

ssilipino wrote:But at least when G1 showed up in BW, it wasn't a homage, it WAS G1.

EXACTLY !

ssilipino wrote:While I think it great they are pre-beasting more BW characters, especially Depth Charge, I really don't approve of the mold. Its small, doesn't off any sie comparison to the actual BW Depth Charge mold, minus the head and the trident.

I had originally planned to transform Galaxy Force Soundwave into DOFP Depth Charge, mainly because a majority of the DOFP's set used Galaxy Force molds, and Soundwave has an appropriate head for Depth Charge. Also his chest piece is similar to the (generic) chest piece on the pre-BW body we can sort of see in "Deep Metal".

I could totally see GF SW as a pre-BW DC .

ssilipino wrote:I had also planned on repainting Galaxy Force Menasor into DOFP's Protoform-X. I felt he offers enough menacing features for him. Any comments?

For Protoform-X, I actually just got a Hasbro Rampage (I use a Takara one to actually represent Rampage from the show) and removed all of his kibble. Based on the sillouette you see during the show of him on Cybertron, that's pretty much what he looks like. Just Rampage without the crab kibble. A LOT of the 'Cybertronian' Maximals and Predicons shown during BW and BM seemed to not really have alt modes at all. For those, I actually used a bunch of Action Masters. I just repainted them to make them match the color schemes/patterns I observed during the few occasions they were shown throughout the series (Action Master Bumblebee makes a great Cicadacon with some red and silver paint ).

Bounti76 wrote:I lost interest in the brand in the late 80s/early 90s, and only got re-interested again when the live-action movies came out. So I completely missed Beast Wars, RID, Unicron Trilogy, etc. For that, I'm mostly glad, since the Unicron Trilogy seems completely overloaded with characters and concepts. Too much to focus on. My major point in saying all that is that Beast Wars holds no interest for me, and thus nor does this Depthcharge. I AM however interested in some of the other characters they're going to be releasing for the Subscription service.

Bounti76 wrote:I'm TOTALLY over the moon that they're going to be releasing Slipstream as a remolded and repainted Prime FE Starscream. I love me some fembots, and I've always thought he had a really feminine body shape, so making Screamer's mold into a fembot just saves me the trouble I'm not so thrilled about the color choices they made for her (I'd always seen or imagined her with a G2 Ramjet deco) in Thundercracker blue, Hot Spot blue, silver and black, but I'll take what I can get with fembots.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:I lost interest in the brand in the late 80s/early 90s, and only got re-interested again when the live-action movies came out. So I completely missed Beast Wars, RID, Unicron Trilogy, etc. For that, I'm mostly glad, since the Unicron Trilogy seems completely overloaded with characters and concepts. Too much to focus on. My major point in saying all that is that Beast Wars holds no interest for me, and thus nor does this Depthcharge. I AM however interested in some of the other characters they're going to be releasing for the Subscription service.

Fiction-wise, G1 seemed to have more characters than all of the Beast Era, RiD, and Unicron Trilogy shows combined.

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

Flux Convoy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

You should have checked more thoroughly. RID is a far flung continuation of G1. Brave Max is simply Fort Max.

Sabrblade wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

You should have checked more thoroughly. RID is a far flung continuation of G1. Brave Max is simply Fort Max.

RAcast wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

You should have checked more thoroughly. RID is a far flung continuation of G1. Brave Max is simply Fort Max.

The short version is, it's a continuity headache. Just go with the logical route and call it a splinter continuity.

Sabrblade wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

You should have checked more thoroughly. RID is a far flung continuation of G1. Brave Max is simply Fort Max.

The short version is, it's a continuity headache. Just go with the logical route and call it a splinter continuity.

Or, simply put, RiD is not G1 continuity, period. Car Robots is, but not RiD.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Going by the "Thou shall not attempt to combine Japanese and US versions of any Transformers line backstory" commandment.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Going by the "Thou shall not attempt to combine Japanese and US versions of any Transformers line backstory" commandment.

It's simple. Transformers defies most rules of foreign dubs that original is usually the more accurate, Word of God version, what with the existence of the Universal Streams system enabling the coexistence of all versions in the multiverse. Car Robots and RID are not the same show/universe. Fire Convoy is not the same guy as Convoy/Optimus Prime/whoever else, nor is Gigatron any version of Megatron, etc. etc.

The RiD cartoon is set in Viron 901.8 Alpha
And Car Robots is set in Primax 400.5 Alpha

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Going by the "Thou shall not attempt to combine Japanese and US versions of any Transformers line backstory" commandment.

It's simple. Transformers defies most rules of foreign dubs that original is usually the more accurate, Word of God version, what with the existence of the Universal Streams system enabling the coexistence of all versions in the multiverse. Car Robots and RID are not the same show/universe. Fire Convoy is not the same guy as Convoy/Optimus Prime/whoever else, nor is Gigatron any version of Megatron, etc. etc.

The RiD cartoon is set in Viron 901.8 Alpha
And Car Robots is set in Primax 400.5 Alpha

And that's what I love about the Transformers.

So long as Hasbro don't mess it up with all that aligned continuity crap.

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Going by the "Thou shall not attempt to combine Japanese and US versions of any Transformers line backstory" commandment.

It's simple. Transformers defies most rules of foreign dubs that original is usually the more accurate, Word of God version, what with the existence of the Universal Streams system enabling the coexistence of all versions in the multiverse. Car Robots and RID are not the same show/universe. Fire Convoy is not the same guy as Convoy/Optimus Prime/whoever else, nor is Gigatron any version of Megatron, etc. etc.

The RiD cartoon is set in Viron 901.8 Alpha
And Car Robots is set in Primax 400.5 Alpha

And that's what I love about the Transformers.

So long as Hasbro don't mess it up with all that aligned continuity crap.

Aligned continuity material should have no bearing on the Multiverse, nor should the latter affect the former. The two are separate entities.

orangeitis wrote:It shouldn't, but I'm not sure what Hasbro meant by past continuities not being included in future Transformers lore.

If they said that at all.

Sabrblade wrote:They said that certain elements of past series will emcompass the Aligned continuity, but not the entirety of past series themselves. G1 is still G1 and so on. Think like how Animated had so many elements taken from past series while it was still its own thing. It's like that here with the Aligned continuity.

Delicon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:They said that certain elements of past series will emcompass the Aligned continuity, but not the entirety of past series themselves. G1 is still G1 and so on. Think like how Animated had so many elements taken from past series while it was still its own thing. It's like that here with the Aligned continuity.

Or in other words, they're going to make things so confusing that only Sabrblade can understand it.

Sabrblade wrote:

Delicon wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:They said that certain elements of past series will emcompass the Aligned continuity, but not the entirety of past series themselves. G1 is still G1 and so on. Think like how Animated had so many elements taken from past series while it was still its own thing. It's like that here with the Aligned continuity.

Or in other words, they're going to make things so confusing that only Sabrblade can understand it.

How is it confusing? It's no different that any other continuity reboots we've had before. RiD, Armada, Movies, Animated... this is just another new one that has a lot of inspirations from previous series. Only difference this time being its longevity of seven years to a decade.

Sabrblade wrote:

RAcast wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Last time I checked, RiD wasn't in G1 continuity though.

You should have checked more thoroughly. RID is a far flung continuation of G1. Brave Max is simply Fort Max.

The short version is, it's a continuity headache. Just go with the logical route and call it a splinter continuity.

Or, simply put, RiD is not G1 continuity, period. Car Robots is, but not RiD.

Flux Convoy wrote:I know logistics, minutiae and technicalities are your thing but come on. For the sake of argument they are the same thing. You can nitpick it out all you like. Go crazy. Same difference though. Simply put, Transformers continuity, as a whole, is a nightmare.