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Trikeboy wrote:Here's something that crossed my mind today: What colour will Red Alert's head be, red or black?

I would prefer the show accurate red head, what would you like to see?

Hotrodimust wrote:

Stormrider wrote:Having a working cassette player gimmick that sacrifices the transformation or bot or alt mode appearance is not a gimmick I want or need.

That's why I said just a working radio. I've seen some rediculous small radios so I know transformation and QC would not be effected nor price. But since they already lowered the pre order it tells me this figure is gonna come with less gimmicks and mostlikely less if any cassettes

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Here's something that crossed my mind today: What colour will Red Alert's head be, red or black?

I would prefer the show accurate red head, what would you like to see?

I guess Takara will go with the red head, while Hasbro will likely use the black one.

Personally I would want a red head.

Hotrodimust wrote:

Stormrider wrote:Having a working cassette player gimmick that sacrifices the transformation or bot or alt mode appearance is not a gimmick I want or need.

That's why I said just a working radio. I've seen some rediculous small radios so I know transformation and QC would not be effected nor price. But since they already lowered the pre order it tells me this figure is gonna come with less gimmicks and mostlikely less if any cassettes

Dud seriously, why? Soundwave never had the ability to function as a radio, apart from that radio that was shaped like Soundwave, Blaster was the guy whose toy had the ability to function as a radio with a tiny radio in his cassette deck.

Why are you insisting on Soundwave's MP toy having a gimmick the original never had, or you know, he never had in the show.

Soundwave isn't a radio, he's a cassette player, well technically he's a mini cassette player/ recorder as in what journalists use to record speech.
So if he should have any real world gimmick it would be to record sounds and then play them back, which would be pretty pointless and silly, considering that no other MP toy does anything like this.

You want to use Soundwave to listen to music? Then go buy that stupid radio and be happy.

Hotrodimust wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Here's something that crossed my mind today: What colour will Red Alert's head be, red or black?

I would prefer the show accurate red head, what would you like to see?

I guess Takara will go with the red head, while Hasbro will likely use the black one.

Personally I would want a red head.

Hotrodimust wrote:

Stormrider wrote:Having a working cassette player gimmick that sacrifices the transformation or bot or alt mode appearance is not a gimmick I want or need.

That's why I said just a working radio. I've seen some rediculous small radios so I know transformation and QC would not be effected nor price. But since they already lowered the pre order it tells me this figure is gonna come with less gimmicks and mostlikely less if any cassettes

Dud seriously, why? Soundwave never had the ability to function as a radio, apart from that radio that was shaped like Soundwave, Blaster was the guy whose toy had the ability to function as a radio with a tiny radio in his cassette deck.

Why are you insisting on Soundwave's MP toy having a gimmick the original never had, or you know, he never had in the show.

Soundwave isn't a radio, he's a cassette player, well technically he's a mini cassette player/ recorder as in what journalists use to record speech.
So if he should have any real world gimmick it would be to record sounds and then play them back, which would be pretty pointless and silly, considering that no other MP toy does anything like this.

You want to use Soundwave to listen to music? Then go buy that stupid radio and be happy.

I don't care that g1 soundwave never had a radio it's not the point. Why do people gotta cry about things and if he's a recorder that journalist use that's really bad because even back in the 80s they didn't look like that. And I really don't care what he is because he a radio/casset player he has a speaker in each leg for stero sound a recorder has one speaker for mono sound. Crappy sonicron is a recorder that's what a recorder looks like and for the money I would just think it cool to have the stupid gimmick. You may like to spend over $100 on $10 worth of plastic but I like my money's worth if I gotta pay full price. But that's just me but I guess I'm wrong for wanting a little extra because it's not g1 enuff seriously certain people make me hate g1 sometime and that's sad and no where have I ever read on a box or heard by takara that the masterpiece line is the definition of a g1 toy because mp-10 isn't really g1 looking at all

orangeitis wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I would not want a Breakdown toy from this mould. His bit mode is completely different. Masterpiece is about G1 accuracy. Breakdown doesn't look anything like Sideswipe.

Mot to mention that G1 Sideswipe, y'know... don't have a limb mode.

breakdown99 wrote:Don't forget my namesake and his G2 version. Maybe even a Punch/Counterpunch? (obviously modifications will up the price). Wow, he could even top Starscream in MP repaint stakes.
Any other Lambo's in Transformerland? I'm sure there was a Lambo micromaster somewhere...

...I give up.

breakdown99 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I would not want a Breakdown toy from this mould. His bit mode is completely different. Masterpiece is about G1 accuracy. Breakdown doesn't look anything like Sideswipe.

Mot to mention that G1 Sideswipe, y'know... don't have a limb mode.

breakdown99 wrote:Don't forget my namesake and his G2 version. Maybe even a Punch/Counterpunch? (obviously modifications will up the price). Wow, he could even top Starscream in MP repaint stakes.
Any other Lambo's in Transformerland? I'm sure there was a Lambo micromaster somewhere...

...I give up.

It's a Lamborghini. If it even remotely resembles said Countach, then there's a chance that they might repaint it into whatever figure. Hence the theoretical suggestions. What's wrong with that? If they do or not, that' up to the boffins at Has/Tak. But it's always fun to throw ideas around.

orangeitis wrote:

breakdown99 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I would not want a Breakdown toy from this mould. His bit mode is completely different. Masterpiece is about G1 accuracy. Breakdown doesn't look anything like Sideswipe.

Mot to mention that G1 Sideswipe, y'know... don't have a limb mode.

breakdown99 wrote:Don't forget my namesake and his G2 version. Maybe even a Punch/Counterpunch? (obviously modifications will up the price). Wow, he could even top Starscream in MP repaint stakes.
Any other Lambo's in Transformerland? I'm sure there was a Lambo micromaster somewhere...

...I give up.

It's a Lamborghini. If it even remotely resembles said Countach, then there's a chance that they might repaint it into whatever figure. Hence the theoretical suggestions. What's wrong with that? If they do or not, that' up to the boffins at Has/Tak. But it's always fun to throw ideas around.

That's Classics/Universe/Generations repaint logic, not Masterpiece repaint logic. The MP line is made to be G1-accurate. G1 Breakdown was never a repaint of Sideswipe, thus he has zero chance of being one in the MP line unless the dynamic of the MP line changes.

If nonsensical repaints come out, it'll be a dynamic change for the MP line - it won't be what it once was. If you can't understand that, I'm not sure what else to say.

(*waits for someone to point out the back repaint and white repaint of MP-1*)

You beat me to it I'm just going to put on the old G1 episode where Black Rodimus and Ironhide save Carly...
On a serious note, i wasn't aware of the MP line being painted in a say "ehobby" logic as opposed to a "classics" colour schemes, thanks for pointing that out. But like i said, the mold is there for them to do whatever they want with it.

Hotrodimust wrote:

Hotrodimust wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:Here's something that crossed my mind today: What colour will Red Alert's head be, red or black?

I would prefer the show accurate red head, what would you like to see?

I guess Takara will go with the red head, while Hasbro will likely use the black one.

Personally I would want a red head.

Hotrodimust wrote:

Stormrider wrote:Having a working cassette player gimmick that sacrifices the transformation or bot or alt mode appearance is not a gimmick I want or need.

That's why I said just a working radio. I've seen some rediculous small radios so I know transformation and QC would not be effected nor price. But since they already lowered the pre order it tells me this figure is gonna come with less gimmicks and mostlikely less if any cassettes

Dud seriously, why? Soundwave never had the ability to function as a radio, apart from that radio that was shaped like Soundwave, Blaster was the guy whose toy had the ability to function as a radio with a tiny radio in his cassette deck.

Why are you insisting on Soundwave's MP toy having a gimmick the original never had, or you know, he never had in the show.

Soundwave isn't a radio, he's a cassette player, well technically he's a mini cassette player/ recorder as in what journalists use to record speech.
So if he should have any real world gimmick it would be to record sounds and then play them back, which would be pretty pointless and silly, considering that no other MP toy does anything like this.

You want to use Soundwave to listen to music? Then go buy that stupid radio and be happy.

I don't care that g1 soundwave never had a radio it's not the point. Why do people gotta cry about things and if he's a recorder that journalist use that's really bad because even back in the 80s they didn't look like that. And I really don't care what he is because he a radio/casset player he has a speaker in each leg for stero sound a recorder has one speaker for mono sound. Crappy sonicron is a recorder that's what a recorder looks like and for the money I would just think it cool to have the stupid gimmick. You may like to spend over $100 on $10 worth of plastic but I like my money's worth if I gotta pay full price. But that's just me but I guess I'm wrong for wanting a little extra because it's not g1 enuff seriously certain people make me hate g1 sometime and that's sad and no where have I ever read on a box or heard by takara that the masterpiece line is the definition of a g1 toy because mp-10 isn't really g1 looking at all

And I take back the speaker in each leg part for now because I don't have a g1 soundwave anymore and I can't remember if he had little holes in his legs when transformed and I'm to lazy to google it but that dosnt change that fact that I still consider him a casset radio lol

• Not accurate to the character or his alt-mode
• Only serves to jack up the price
• Nobody would use it, because they have a radio already (just like nobody uses Music Label Soundwave as an MP3 Player)
• Would likely hinder design and awesomeness of the toy
• Nobody uses a radio anymore

Dead Metal wrote:Nobody uses a radio anymore

breakdown99 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

breakdown99 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I would not want a Breakdown toy from this mould. His bit mode is completely different. Masterpiece is about G1 accuracy. Breakdown doesn't look anything like Sideswipe.

Mot to mention that G1 Sideswipe, y'know... don't have a limb mode.

breakdown99 wrote:Don't forget my namesake and his G2 version. Maybe even a Punch/Counterpunch? (obviously modifications will up the price). Wow, he could even top Starscream in MP repaint stakes.
Any other Lambo's in Transformerland? I'm sure there was a Lambo micromaster somewhere...

...I give up.

It's a Lamborghini. If it even remotely resembles said Countach, then there's a chance that they might repaint it into whatever figure. Hence the theoretical suggestions. What's wrong with that? If they do or not, that' up to the boffins at Has/Tak. But it's always fun to throw ideas around.

That's Classics/Universe/Generations repaint logic, not Masterpiece repaint logic. The MP line is made to be G1-accurate. G1 Breakdown was never a repaint of Sideswipe, thus he has zero chance of being one in the MP line unless the dynamic of the MP line changes.

If nonsensical repaints come out, it'll be a dynamic change for the MP line - it won't be what it once was. If you can't understand that, I'm not sure what else to say.

(*waits for someone to point out the back repaint and white repaint of MP-1*)

You beat me to it I'm just going to put on the old G1 episode where Black Rodimus and Ironhide save Carly...
On a serious note, i wasn't aware of the MP line being painted in a say "ehobby" logic as opposed to a "classics" colour schemes, thanks for pointing that out. But like i said, the mold is there for them to do whatever they want with it.

Burn wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Nobody uses a radio anymore

Two hours in the morning before I go to work ... eight hours during the day at work ... all the time in the car ... some times at night after work ... many hours on the weekends when i'm home and there's nothing to watch on tv.

Plus the proliferation of digital radio and internet radio ... there's definitely someone out there listening to it!

Mindmaster wrote:I don't spend THAT much time on the radio, but I do listen to it at least once a day.

njb902 wrote:well this thread sure has gotten nasty lol. don't care about the repaint issue or if soundwave is a whatever(vcr lol good one though....is so a betamax). what I would like to talk about is his weapons. weren't they formed from aa batteries in the original toy? what will they look like in this version?

Hotrodimust wrote:

njb902 wrote:well this thread sure has gotten nasty lol. don't care about the repaint issue or if soundwave is a whatever(vcr lol good one though....is so a betamax). what I would like to talk about is his weapons. weren't they formed from aa batteries in the original toy? what will they look like in this version?

That would be nice if they actually had a battery cover that removed and they plugged in like batteries. Most version of him do do that in a way even deluxe Wfc store kinda like batteries in his chest

Hotrodimust wrote:I just got an email from BBTS telling me that my sideswipe has been lowered to $83.99 and soundwave to $139.99. They thank me for being a great returning customer so idk if this is everyone's price or just mine most likely everyone's I'm not that special lol

orangeitis wrote:

breakdown99 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

breakdown99 wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Trikeboy wrote:I would not want a Breakdown toy from this mould. His bit mode is completely different. Masterpiece is about G1 accuracy. Breakdown doesn't look anything like Sideswipe.

Mot to mention that G1 Sideswipe, y'know... don't have a limb mode.

breakdown99 wrote:Don't forget my namesake and his G2 version. Maybe even a Punch/Counterpunch? (obviously modifications will up the price). Wow, he could even top Starscream in MP repaint stakes.
Any other Lambo's in Transformerland? I'm sure there was a Lambo micromaster somewhere...

...I give up.

It's a Lamborghini. If it even remotely resembles said Countach, then there's a chance that they might repaint it into whatever figure. Hence the theoretical suggestions. What's wrong with that? If they do or not, that' up to the boffins at Has/Tak. But it's always fun to throw ideas around.

That's Classics/Universe/Generations repaint logic, not Masterpiece repaint logic. The MP line is made to be G1-accurate. G1 Breakdown was never a repaint of Sideswipe, thus he has zero chance of being one in the MP line unless the dynamic of the MP line changes.

If nonsensical repaints come out, it'll be a dynamic change for the MP line - it won't be what it once was. If you can't understand that, I'm not sure what else to say.

(*waits for someone to point out the back repaint and white repaint of MP-1*)

You beat me to it I'm just going to put on the old G1 episode where Black Rodimus and Ironhide save Carly...
On a serious note, i wasn't aware of the MP line being painted in a say "ehobby" logic as opposed to a "classics" colour schemes, thanks for pointing that out. But like i said, the mold is there for them to do whatever they want with it.

Of course the molds are theirs to do what they want with them. But what I'm saying is, given the evidence laid out, they're just doing repaints of what the G1 molds had. And if in the very unlikely event that they do have a Classics-logic repaint, which IS possible no matter how unlikely, it would change the theme that they themselves had for the MP line in the first place.

Was there a black repaint of vintage G1 Optimus? Yes. A white repaint named Magnus? Yes. A black Hot Rod repaint? Yes(though chest colors are different). A Breakdown repaint of the vintage Sideswipe mold? No.

Non-G1 versions of the molds are very very unlikely.

Burn wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:Nobody uses a radio anymore

Two hours in the morning before I go to work ... eight hours during the day at work ... all the time in the car ... some times at night after work ... many hours on the weekends when i'm home and there's nothing to watch on tv.

Plus the proliferation of digital radio and internet radio ... there's definitely someone out there listening to it!

padfoo wrote:Not sure if this has been posted or if these pics are official but here are pics of MP-13.http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRANSFORMERS-TAKARA-MASTERPIECE-G1-DECEPTICON-SOUNDWAVE-MP-13-LIMITED-PRE-ORDER-/360463046079?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item53ed4595bf#ht_1109wt_1159

Stormrider wrote:I am envisioning MP Soundwave as a VHS. Blaster as a Betamax.

breakdown99 wrote:Then would it be safe to assume that we could potentially get Masterpiece repaints of the following?