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starwarrior1227 wrote:
one i dont think nominations get you money. Now i know the probability being low that a
show would win and not have good viewings, but it is possible.
(ex: psychonauts,etc.)

now to the copyright thing, i would think that if it is associated with one of
hasbro's trademarks they would hate it for people to take it.
like if Lucas gave up starwars at the end of episode 6 and then someone else made the first three without him,bcuz they got the copyright. im no business man so OFCOARSE i
am speculating like a good deal of seibertron.

finally when i meant that this would lead to a new series, i meant as a replacement for Prime if Prime is doing poorly.

That's the thing; Prime is doing excellent. Doing excellent is the reason why it's still on the air. If it was doing poorly, Prime most likely would've been cancelled after Season 1 (or if they were really bad, even before then). But it's not. Do you think we are the only ones that watch Prime? There are kids that have the Hub that watch Prime, we fans aren't in a no-man's land here. The reason why it's doing so well is because it's so dark. It has a follow-up video game and a large continuity to support it. I don't see Prime falling any time soon.

In my opinion:

1) Why "align" WFC with Prime and Rescue Bots, it doesn't fit with them to me (but it does to G1);

2) Beast Wars wasn't meant to occur after the Great War, it was, is and always meant to occur before the Bots and Cons battled in 1984; and

3) Beast Machines wasn't meant to come after Beast Wars because the Maximals left!

XDMan wrote:
2) Beast Wars wasn't meant to occur after the Great War, it was, is and always meant to occur before the Bots and Cons battled in 1984;

Well...it depends on whose frame of reference you consider. Yes, it took place on Earth at a date before 1984. However, the d00ds in the show had time traveled *back* from after the great war. I think it was supposed to be around 300 years after, but that may be off. So it *was* after the great war from the point of view of all of the characters.

XDMan wrote: 3) Beast Machines wasn't meant to come after Beast Wars because the Maximals left!

Not sure what you mean here....Beast Machines was definitely a sequel to Beast Wars. The first few episodes are specifically about trying to figure out what happened between Beast Wars and Beast Machines. The Maximals did leave Earth......and they went to Cybertron, which is where Beast Machines took place.

Neo's been right before. He's been honest before. There's no reason for him to $#!7can it now, after so long, for no reason other than $#!7$ and giggles.

I know we're cynical. I know we're critical. But when the person giving you the info has a rep for honesty and a reliable track record, sometimes it's better to keep quiet and let him tell his tale.

Could Hasbro change their minds at the last minute? Could this be a spitballin' session? Sure. But it's not unheard of that things like this could be real.

Be patient. Let's see what happens before we all go running around pointing fingers and yelling "Liar, liar pants on fire!"


"No mas pantalones"

XDMan wrote:In my opinion:

1) Why "align" WFC with Prime and Rescue Bots, it doesn't fit with them to me (but it does to G1);

Well, that's your opinion. But Prime makes a lot of reference to Exodus, which makes a lot of reference to WFC, which indeed spirals back to Prime. So as this upcoming Rage of Dinobots comic that connects FoC and Prime (although Exiles does this to some extent). Same thing with everything in this Aligned continuity Hasbro confirmed themselves.

2) Beast Wars wasn't meant to occur after the Great War, it was, is and always meant to occur before the Bots and Cons battled in 1984; and

It took place in the 4 million years they were in stasis, but it started 300 years after the war. They were sent back in time.

3) Beast Machines wasn't meant to come after Beast Wars because the Maximals left!

What the...? It was a sequel to Beast Wars, I don't understand how that's so hard to take in.

BOOYAH!! It's season 3, baby!

The PDF file is accessable!

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B808C1bwJNcbdzJJX2xJR1lXTFU/edit

Just in case, or if you don't want to read it here's a summary:

*From 1 to 6: Presentation of the brand, importance and the variety of media related to it

*From 6 to 7: Variety of products (DVD, toys, video games) and variety of costumers from different ages.

*From 8 to 11: Transformers Prime, stating that is beeing aired in 175 countries and the 2nd season, in Spanish, will start in October with 52 episodes. mention to Peter Cullen

*From 12 to 12 XD: Mention to Tr5ansformers The Ride 3D.

*From 13 to 18: Plans for 2012 to 2013, presenting Rescue Bots, series and merchadising.

*From 19 to 22: Transformers Generations will go until 2014, showing media and hard nostalgia.

*From 23 to 25: Transformers Prime second season presentation.

*26: Presentation of Beast Hunters as the third season of TF Prime

[quote="PrymeStriker
That's the thing; Prime is doing excellent. Doing excellent is the reason why it's still on the air. If it was doing poorly, Prime most likely would've been cancelled after Season 1 (or if they were really bad, even before then). But it's not. Do you think we are the only ones that watch Prime? There are kids that have the Hub that watch Prime, we fans aren't in a no-man's land here. The reason why it's doing so well is because it's so dark. It has a follow-up video game and a large continuity to support it. I don't see Prime falling any time soon.[/quote]

sorry, its kinda hard to see if children or others watch the show where i live.
and in my defence a video game follow up means nothing, especially one from activision,
and by large continuity i assume you mean the whole WFC/FOC being part of the show,
i thought it was done because the majority of buyers/players were peoples who were
too young to tell the G1 tie-in to WFC/FOC(it obvious the series was ATLEAST at first meant to be a prequel to G1) and so was tied in to their newest TF tv series, one i assumed was doing well.
And its pretty easy to print money on something that children drool at in its "awesomeness", so a TF show making money even though it sucks(Cybretron)AND not being cancelled isnt surprising.

Sabrblade wrote:BOOYAH!! It's season 3, baby!

The PDF file is accessable!

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B808C1bwJNcbdzJJX2xJR1lXTFU/edit

Just in case, or if you don't want to read it here's a summary:

*From 1 to 6: Presentation of the brand, importance and the variety of media related to it

*From 6 to 7: Variety of products (DVD, toys, video games) and variety of costumers from different ages.

*From 8 to 11: Transformers Prime, stating that is beeing aired in 175 countries and the 2nd season, in Spanish, will start in October with 52 episodes. mention to Peter Cullen

*From 12 to 12 XD: Mention to Tr5ansformers The Ride 3D.

*From 13 to 18: Plans for 2012 to 2013, presenting Rescue Bots, series and merchadising.

*From 19 to 22: Transformers Generations will go until 2014, showing media and hard nostalgia.

*From 23 to 25: Transformers Prime second season presentation.

*26: Presentation of Beast Hunters as the third season of TF Prime

If this turns out to be false, I'm going to cry my eyes out. This is too awesome.

All I see on that link, are a ton of Google images, most not even owned by Hasbro.
Where is all this "info" at?

RodimalToyota wrote:All I see on that link, are a ton of Google images, most not even owned by Hasbro.
Where is all this "info" at?

Neo-Bombshell's updated post.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And besides, Thundertron is the leader of the Star Seekers. The Star Seekers have chosen beast-like forms. They also dislike both Autobots and Decepticons. And it is a good bet that they would choose the Battle Beasts' planet as a decoy to get both factions there. But this is all speculations, as Hasbro never said that they are only sticking with their past works.

It would be so awesome if the Star Seekers showed up in season three!

According to the presentation, it also looks as though the Prime and Rescue Bots cartoons will both be lasting even as far as 2015!

Sabrblade wrote:According to the presentation, it also looks as though the Prime and Rescue Bots cartoons will both be lasting even as far as 2015!

milking money at its best, and if done right, it maybe best for us...

Was hoping this would be a new Battle Beast line. I'd love to see that come back, but I don't care for minimates. We'll see what comes of this.

a Cobra Viper wrote:Was hoping this would be a new Battle Beast line. I'd love to see that come back, but I don't care for minimates. We'll see what comes of this.

It's Transformers: Prime season 3.

Sabrblade wrote:BOOYAH!! It's season 3, baby!

The PDF file is accessable!

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B808C1bwJNcbdzJJX2xJR1lXTFU/edit

Just in case, or if you don't want to read it here's a summary:

*From 1 to 6: Presentation of the brand, importance and the variety of media related to it

*From 6 to 7: Variety of products (DVD, toys, video games) and variety of costumers from different ages.

*From 8 to 11: Transformers Prime, stating that is beeing aired in 175 countries and the 2nd season, in Spanish, will start in October with 52 episodes. mention to Peter Cullen

*From 12 to 12 XD: Mention to Tr5ansformers The Ride 3D.

*From 13 to 18: Plans for 2012 to 2013, presenting Rescue Bots, series and merchadising.

*From 19 to 22: Transformers Generations will go until 2014, showing media and hard nostalgia.

*From 23 to 25: Transformers Prime second season presentation.

*26: Presentation of Beast Hunters as the third season of TF Prime

Generations until 2014? My god...

Sabrblade wrote:According to the presentation, it also looks as though the Prime and Rescue Bots cartoons will both be lasting even as far as 2015!

Wasn't that the intent though? The aligned continuity is supposed to be the ongoing fiction instead of the Japanese 52 episode then reset style of series.

Sabrblade wrote:According to the presentation, it also looks as though the Prime and Rescue Bots cartoons will both be lasting even as far as 2015!

You're shocked? They said that the Aligned continuity was supposed to last a decade. It only seems fitting the major cartoons last that long (or at least half of that period).

Which gives them plenty of time for them to write a Prime movie. Jeff said they were thinking about doing it. I hope the follow up on it.

Prime iz superiorz cart00n.

I never really got into beast wars to be honest. But I'll might try.

Still, call me skeptical, but we are talking about a poorly put together
Press kit, I mean really poorly done, and our first account of this is third hand from someone in
South America?

Doesn't line up, also, there's no actual writing, just quotations of what was supposedly showed.


Not being an ass here, just pointing out some obvious issues.
Considering Hasbro would make sure to get the rights before they put millions into
Production.

bluecatcinema wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And besides, Thundertron is the leader of the Star Seekers. The Star Seekers have chosen beast-like forms. They also dislike both Autobots and Decepticons. And it is a good bet that they would choose the Battle Beasts' planet as a decoy to get both factions there. But this is all speculations, as Hasbro never said that they are only sticking with their past works.

It would be so awesome if the Star Seekers showed up in season three!

Myself, I am hoping they make some kind of appearance during the first half of season 3. Because while I am surprised Sabrblade did not mention this but each season begins in February. And this says Fall of 2013. (But I forgive him on account that today is Thursday.) Which means we are going to be seeing one of three things:

1) A mini-series that will result in a new series, quite possibly starring the Star Seekers. (Again, explaining the transformation toys.)

2) A major season 3.5 event, again possibly being planned into a series tie-in/spin-off. (And again, hopefully starring the Star Seekers.)

However... Based on what I have just read, it will not involve/include the current Battle Beast line on account that it is now a Diamond Select toyline. But that line has nothing to do with the original toyline, besides being animorphic warriors.

Yet, however, it can involve Takara Tomy's Beast Saga - On account that the toyline could include vehicles and fortresses that contain transforming features. Not sure on account that they are not (yet) going down the path, but I cannot rule Hasbro out on that yet. So I guess we have to wait and see, as this is going to happen in a year from now.

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:

bluecatcinema wrote:

KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:And besides, Thundertron is the leader of the Star Seekers. The Star Seekers have chosen beast-like forms. They also dislike both Autobots and Decepticons. And it is a good bet that they would choose the Battle Beasts' planet as a decoy to get both factions there. But this is all speculations, as Hasbro never said that they are only sticking with their past works.

It would be so awesome if the Star Seekers showed up in season three!

Myself, I am hoping they make some kind of appearance during the first half of season 3. Because while I am surprised Sabrblade did not mention this but each season begins in February. And this says Fall of 2013. Which means we are going to be seeing one of three things:

Do note that this is real early in the production for the new sub-title of Prime. While the crew of Prime have already been recording (and possibly animating) Season 3, perhaps this means half-way into Season 3 that we'll see "Beast Hunters" as being a gimmick in the show (and, of course, toyline).

2) A major season 3.5 event, again possibly being planned into a series tie-in/spin-off. (And again, hopefully starring the Star Seekers.)

Probably this. Could be because of the Dinobots & Star Seekers being introduced a few episodes prior?

PrymeStriker wrote:Do note that this is real early in the production for the new sub-title of Prime. While the crew of Prime have already been recording (and possibly animating) Season 3, perhaps this means half-way into Season 3 that we'll see "Beast Hunters" as being a gimmick in the show (and, of course, toyline).

I know. I said it in my second response, prior to you guys talking about how it will not be Battle Beasts... Which it cannot be name-wise, as that name is now owned by another company. But it can still involve Beast Saga in some way, like I said before.

Besides, I am also assuming that by the time it is finalized and on the air, I'll be in an area where I cannot watch it as such. So for me, the biggest Transformers related concern is if I should continue sticking with my list (as-is) or allow Supreme Commanders to be added to the current stage of my want/wish list.

Lord Onixprime wrote:Wasn't that the intent though? The aligned continuity is supposed to be the ongoing fiction instead of the Japanese 52 episode then reset style of series.

PrymeStriker wrote:You're shocked? They said that the Aligned continuity was supposed to last a decade. It only seems fitting the major cartoons last that long (or at least half of that period).

I know about the Aligned continuity lasting that long, but I didn't think the Prime cartoon would go that far. I was thinking that we might get a sequel Aligned cartoon with a different name by then.

And I certainly did not imagine the Rescue Bots cartoon lasting that long. I figured it might go for about two or so seasons then either end or have its characters integrated into Prime.

I mean, no Transformers cartoon has ever lasted for more than four years (unless you count "season 5" of G1), so for us to finally get one that overcome that is quite startling.

Turns out Hasbro used an existing piece of art as stand in for this image, as the dragon thing is from DnD.