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frogbat wrote:actually i have another complaint... if they managed such a great job with these guys, why couldn't generations galvatron be as good???!?!? cos yeah making a character and mould that deserved an ultra class mould ended up being deluxe...

Galvatron was designed as a Voyager first and incorporated the third mode, but after deciding there were already too many tanks in the Voyager scale (think RotF Megatron and Bludgeon), he was downsized to Deluxe, but keeping most of the engineering.

So these are two solid figures So glad i never pulled out for a warbot defender. i can only complain about one thing and thats how tiny BW gun looks in his hand it could have at least been purple.

The triple changing face worked in Transformers: Animated and only in Transformers: Animated.

Please stop.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

frogbat wrote:actually i have another complaint... if they managed such a great job with these guys, why couldn't generations galvatron be as good???!?!? cos yeah making a character and mould that deserved an ultra class mould ended up being deluxe...

Galvatron was designed as a Voyager first and incorporated the third mode, but after deciding there were already too many tanks in the Voyager scale (think RotF Megatron and Bludgeon), he was downsized to Deluxe, but keeping most of the engineering.

But Galvatron was released in 08 right? and ROTF was 09 and Bludgeon was later 09 right? While not disagreeing with you, I think he got caught in that 25th anniversary group that were all deluxes

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

frogbat wrote:actually i have another complaint... if they managed such a great job with these guys, why couldn't generations galvatron be as good???!?!? cos yeah making a character and mould that deserved an ultra class mould ended up being deluxe...

Galvatron was designed as a Voyager first and incorporated the third mode, but after deciding there were already too many tanks in the Voyager scale (think RotF Megatron and Bludgeon), he was downsized to Deluxe, but keeping most of the engineering.

If I ever find a decently priced KO voyager Galvy, I would pick it up.

Anyway, Springer looks to have some excellent engineering on him. Many kudos to the designers, however I do feel his legs are a bit skinny. But considering the transformation and how good it looks, all is forgiven there!

As for Blitz...I'm not too crazy for those shoulders. But It's Blitzwing, he's a triple changer, and he's big. I'll buy him on sight!

Now,s some comparison pics to FOC Grimlock would be nice to reference size.

Can't wait for these guys to be released. And I love Blitzwing's crazy face!

Puck wrote:The triple changing face worked in Transformers: Animated and only in Transformers: Animated.

Please stop.

Never!

Wow, Springer's car mode is beautiful! Both these triple-changers look really solid in all modes, very little apparent kibble or spaces/gaps. Well done Hasbro!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

frogbat wrote:actually i have another complaint... if they managed such a great job with these guys, why couldn't generations galvatron be as good???!?!? cos yeah making a character and mould that deserved an ultra class mould ended up being deluxe...

Galvatron was designed as a Voyager first and incorporated the third mode, but after deciding there were already too many tanks in the Voyager scale (think RotF Megatron and Bludgeon), he was downsized to Deluxe, but keeping most of the engineering.

keeping the engineering is being a bit generous. if I took a sheet of paper and scrunched it up into a ball, it'd still technically be a sheet of paper, but it'd be a damned miracle if you could make it look the way it was intended to.



Anyway. Springer and Blitzwing are pretty great. Glad I have them pre-ordered. Really liking Springer. Lots of nice touches. Kinda Drift-y too in bot mode. Blitz could do without the half-a-tank alt mode, but the robot looks nice and the jet mode is growing on me. Love the weapons, and the three faces gimmick is okay.

craggy wrote:Blitz could do without the half-a-tank alt mode

Oh, be fair...

It's closer to two-thirds of a tank.

Sadly, I already have FPs Defender (and Botcon Springer for that matter), but this mold will make for a decent Sandstorm repaint.

Blitzwing is the sauce. Bought on sight.

Phew, for a second I was worried about Blitzwing's head when I saw RK's pics... and man, somebody needs to clean their camera lens.

Good to see he still looks as awesome as he did at NYCC. Can't wait for both of these, but Springer is just plain amazing. Well worth selling my Defender for, IMO. I got back most of (if not all) the money I originally spent on it, too. Love this car mode especially, finally both alt modes look pretty sweet. Can't wait to have these guys facing off against each other in my display for awhile.

I wonder if this means BBTS will be receiving their stock fairly soon?

Ohmygodohmygod sooooooo glad i get paid this friday. They are just so perfect

Still drooling on the voyagers. Blitzwing is definitely a buy (I can live with that 2/3 tank mode). But while I still decide to keep my Warbot as the Springer, his repaint Sandstorm is a buy on sight (if it's official ).

Nemesis Primal wrote:

craggy wrote:Blitz could do without the half-a-tank alt mode

Oh, be fair...

It's closer to two-thirds of a tank.

You got it all wrong! He's half regular tank and half H-Tank

its too bad prime is soo small.

They both do look awesome but Blitzwing could have been better off without the lame Animated multi-face gimmick. Now c'mon lets see Takara's versions so we can get some comparisons with Hasbro!

Holy slag, these are awesome. I am getting these, for sure. Springer puts Warbot Defender to shame.

Shoot...Blitzwing is going to dwarf Classics Astrotrain.

Already have Blitzwing and Springer on preorder. Like everyone else, I'm a little bummed about that half a tank, but I'm still happy to have the Decepticon Triple Changer Trio complete.

As much as I like Op and Bumblebee, I already have too many versions of those two. I'd like to see some other characters show up, like the other Dinobots. Hell, I'd settle for legend size Dinobots.

Nemesis Destron wrote:Blitzwing could have been better off without the lame Animated multi-face gimmick.

I disageee heartily, my opposing Nemesis. The toy makes no sacrifices to accommodate the face gimmick, and it's a nice shout out to those of us who aren't G1 hardliners. If you don't like it, don't use it.

Yes.

Blitzwing still isn't doing it for me. It just looks off to me, not like Blitzwing. And those faces look like early Dr. Wu prototype work.

Springer on the other-hand I will gladly kill to get hold of. The legs are a little lanky, but that's the only complaint I have and it's a stretch at that. Mucho wantage!

Most impressive.

ScottyP wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:but its the only one thats a triple changer.

Not when you count Defender

I think this springer blows Defender out of the water.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:Blitzwing could have been better off without the lame Animated multi-face gimmick.

I disageee heartily, my opposing Nemesis. The toy makes no sacrifices to accommodate the face gimmick, and it's a nice shout out to those of us who aren't G1 hardliners. If you don't like it, don't use it.

I love how Hasbro tried to tie the two universes together! It's a wonderful shout out to fans of each continuity, and they at least updated the way his head swivels so you won't exactly see the other faces while displaying just one of them.