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Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:20 pm
by Jack Hallows
Impactor for Hall of Fame!

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:44 pm
by Mindmaster
Hotrodimust wrote:You should have just waited to find them in stores I've found 8 of each figure already and one sandstorm


Wait, you've already found the Wreckers in retail? :shock:

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:22 pm
by Mindmaster
shockblast2 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:Just as I've got my Fall of Cybertron Combaticons as my Generation One Combaticons, I will do the same with these.

Still wish Impactor had his colors reversed. :(



Tee-hee. Your one of those people who shoehorns unrelated figures into your collection because Hasbro screwed you out of a CHUG release. There is another guy around here that does that too. Can't remeber his name right off hand, but you guys should get together. I'd wager you'd have a beautiful bromance over your love of geewun modern figures!


Where've you been? We established this the last time we had this argument. >:oP

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:05 pm
by TK415
Hotrodimust wrote:
T-Macksimus wrote:
Joetx wrote:I don't understand the hatred for these figures. They're not mere redecos. Instead, they're fairly extensive remolds (including Emirate Xaron)! If you think HasTak would either design completely new figures or wouldn't maximize existing designs, you're delusional.


Those of us opposed to what they have don't don't expect everyone else to understand the "why" behind how we feel and as far as us having expectations bordering on the delusional, we aren't idiots and we aren't crazy... we'll, we aren't idiots at least.
Myself, I never expected a release of an entire Wreckers team. I was expecting maybe to get one or two figures, maybe three, trickled out over a span and yes, I would hope that they would be original molds(hence the "trickled" expectation.) IDW has been doing an amazing job with re-imagining the designs on our classic heroes, in my opinion anyways, and I feel that the re-paint treatment that Hasbro has given these figures is just a slap in the face to the artists currently working on these figures. They work great for the FoC Combaticons, I'm all for that and the folks at High Moon studios should be proud of their creation but I just think Hasbro has insulted the long time Wreckers fans AND the folks at IDW by taking this route. I'd have rather seen fewer Wreckers but have them done right than get one team dropped in my lap that was done lazy. Yeah, they have new heads and new paint but honestly, that was no effort at all when you look at the big picture. Yes, I understand that Hasbro is all about money and that they are going to aim for the demographic that gets them the most $$ and many of us on here are totally not in that demographic. I've preached this very fact dozens of times on here. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on it though or feel slighted at least a little bit especially since I've been throwing my money into Hasbro's coffers for this line for over 25 years now. I think I've earned (and paid for) the right to be a little pissed off over some of what they do.

I agree with u 100%

There may still be hope. There have been three Ultra Magnus figures in what seems like less than a year: FOC, PRID, BH. UM figures like Animated and Titanium before that. Sure Magnus is more well known, but Hasbro will collect money where every they can. They made Classics Onslaught then made FOC. They might continue to create more Wreckers and or the same Wreckers over the years.

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:15 pm
by Joetx
T-Macksimus wrote:Those of us opposed to what they have don't don't expect everyone else to understand the "why" behind how we feel and as far as us having expectations bordering on the delusional, we aren't idiots and we aren't crazy... we'll, we aren't idiots at least.
Myself, I never expected a release of an entire Wreckers team. I was expecting maybe to get one or two figures, maybe three, trickled out over a span and yes, I would hope that they would be original molds(hence the "trickled" expectation.) IDW has been doing an amazing job with re-imagining the designs on our classic heroes, in my opinion anyways, and I feel that the re-paint treatment that Hasbro has given these figures is just a slap in the face to the artists currently working on these figures. They work great for the FoC Combaticons, I'm all for that and the folks at High Moon studios should be proud of their creation but I just think Hasbro has insulted the long time Wreckers fans AND the folks at IDW by taking this route. I'd have rather seen fewer Wreckers but have them done right than get one team dropped in my lap that was done lazy. Yeah, they have new heads and new paint but honestly, that was no effort at all when you look at the big picture. Yes, I understand that Hasbro is all about money and that they are going to aim for the demographic that gets them the most $$ and many of us on here are totally not in that demographic. I've preached this very fact dozens of times on here. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on it though or feel slighted at least a little bit especially since I've been throwing my money into Hasbro's coffers for this line for over 25 years now. I think I've earned (and paid for) the right to be a little pissed off over some of what they do.


I didn't say you weren't allowed to have an opinion.

But looking at the big picture, sorry, but it just comes across as whining. I've been collecting TFs since they first came out. I'm pleasantly AMAZED that TFs has not only survived for all of these years, but THRIVED! Not only that, but HasTak hasn't forgotten us older fans - far from it. They've actually been catering to us by making many series where beloved G1 characters are re-imagined using modern toy making technology (Generations, Universe, Classics, Masterpiece, etc.). To top it off, we now finally have access to characters that were never toys (e.g., Impactor, Orion Pax, etc.).

Besides, if you don't like 'em, don't buy 'em. There are plenty of figures, across all the different TFs series, I'm not into, so I don't buy them. I save money, while TFs fans who do like them are more likely to find them in stores.

Finally, as someone who lived through some absolutely horrible G1 TFs (the latter years in the U.S. continuity especially [e.g., the Pretender Monsters]), these new figures are FAR from being disappointments.

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:55 pm
by Metrosuplex
I didn't realize these would hit retail... or to put it another way, it's incredibly hard to predict WHAT I'll find at retail. So I ordered the limbs separately yesterday, and made a separate order for the torso today (and a 2nd Blitzwing, GI Joe vehicle, 2 Wolverine figs - pad out the order). The pricing is excellent if you have those discount inserts that come with your orders! :x HTS is becoming my new fave online retailer!

But WTF is with their inventory? How is a Hasbro direct store having so much trouble stocking some of the better figs? And is there any chance TF execs will pay attention to which ones are selling and stop (for the love of GOD) making so many BBs and Optimi?!?

(Just saw the new 16 inch BB/Optimus figs at TRU today, too! WOW, ARE THEY CRAPTACULAR! :lol: )

Wolfman Jake wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Why in the world would you want three of each of these? Customs or something?


I've got multiple displays that could use some Wrecker representation. One display will have the gestalt form and the individual bots together. Yeah, that makes no sense, but it looks nice. I may or may not get a third set now. We'll see.


Makes sense to me. Despite the increasing mis-steps and BB/Optimus fetish, Hasbro makes affordable TF's. I buy multiples if I like a certain mold - one can be displayed, one can be played with, one can be given to the destructive toddler (who seems to love TFs above his age group :roll: ). I love third-party TF's for their attention to show-accurate detail, but... $40-100 each?! I'm pretty terrified to even touch the ones I have. If you're a displayer, they're great. But I'm not much of a displayer.

Hotrodimust wrote:You should have just waited to find them in stores I've found 8 of each figure already and one sandstorm

Whereabouts are you?! Blitzwing and Springer are pretty rare in IL. I've seen them maybe 2-3 times, in short supply, and usually selling out pretty fast. So maybe you live in one of those lucky States where store managers are generous with inventory and no one cares to buy these. (Still haven't seen a Sandstorm @ retail...)

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:10 am
by Hotrodimust
Mindmaster wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:You should have just waited to find them in stores I've found 8 of each figure already and one sandstorm


Wait, you've already found the Wreckers in retail? :shock:

No sorry I was talking about springer and blitz wing and how u said HTS was out of stock. I never order anything I always find it in store no problem. I already found a sandstorm and I'm not gonna pick up the ruination figures. I do like the colors better than bruticus but the figure as a whole is just horrible IMO. Can't wait to find metroplex thou I really hope hasbro keeps up the good work that they have been doing on the 30th line.

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:32 am
by datguy86
Just finished putting Ruination together and I'm kinda glad for the extra gimmicky weapons. Now you can place Impactor's regular gun to give Ruination back cannons, and then I pegged Twin Twist's drills into the back cannons to give Ruination a little "jet pack". Really covers up the weakest part of the combined mode.

Since I used the set up in the instructions; I threw Whirl's swords above Twin Twist's fist (since his fist cannot hold a weapon) and Whirl's(?) gatling gun in Ruination's other hand. Looks decent.

So yeah, these are pretty good figures for what the original molds are. I'm not buying them again, unless someone like e-hobby paints them all gold and releases it as Emirate Xaaron...

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:21 am
by Bounti76
datguy86 wrote:Just finished putting Ruination together and I'm kinda glad for the extra gimmicky weapons. Now you can place Impactor's regular gun to give Ruination back cannons, and then I pegged Twin Twist's drills into the back cannons to give Ruination a little "jet pack". Really covers up the weakest part of the combined mode.

Since I used the set up in the instructions; I threw Whirl's swords above Twin Twist's fist (since his fist cannot hold a weapon) and Whirl's(?) gatling gun in Ruination's other hand. Looks decent.

So yeah, these are pretty good figures for what the original molds are. I'm not buying them again, unless someone like e-hobby paints them all gold and releases it as Emirate Xaaron...



Good to know. I should get my figures in a week or so, ad I'll now be able to make Ruination look less hollow. I do wish Impactor's arms had more of a range of motion....and weren't so puny.

On a related note....does anyone else think that it's interesting that Twin Twist's and Brawl's bios are so similar (both are basically portrayed as rage monsters), and share the same mold? Coincidence? I know Twin Twist in G1 was also a bit of a brawler.

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 12:25 pm
by datguy86
Here's a (really bad) picture for reference to fixing that hollow back.

hollowback.jpg
Ain't no hollow back boy

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:16 pm
by Autobot032
*reads*

O_o

*facepalms*

That was soooo bad.

Re: Generations Autobot Wrecker Figures Now Available @ HTS

PostPosted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:17 am
by Wolfman Jake
My Impactors finally arrived! Has anyone found a way to combine the five new "Mech-Tech" weapons into a second super weapon for Ruination to wield? Also, is there a definitive source on the "correct" location for each limb of the combined mode? The cardbacks and the actual instructions inside are mirror images of eachother. I've settled on the instruction version for now, since it makes Ruination the most distinct from Bruticus. In other words, it makes it so that Bruticus' limbs are swapped top and bottom AND left and right for Ruination.