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gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, I'll admit they're unlikely for these sets. Maybe while the molds are on the presses they can squeeze out something for the main line or subscription that fits the bill.

Red Mirage could be a new G1 character for the main line... plus Skid-Z and Machine Wars Prowl for a club store exclusive and the subscription service.

(Skid-Z can hang out with the new versions of Scourge, Side Burn and SkyByte.)

Just sayin'.

Bumblevivisector wrote:I wouldn't be interested in these at all, as Astrotrain, Galvatron, Ironhide, and Octane-Kor were some of the least impressive CHUGGUR molds (though Octank was a nice try that could've worked even better as a voyager than Galvy), but there's one issue no one's mentioned:

Does a Hound reissue automatically = a Ravage reissue, as was evidenced in G2 redux? If they are gang molded OSLT, and Ravage is repainted into Howlback or Stripes, I'm gonna' hafta' fork over as much as it takes to get this set, if that's what it takes to convince HasTak to never ever stop with new Masterpiece cassettes. Once we've gotten new molds of every last cassette, down to the 4 combiner pair and an official Autoscout, I might actually forgive the neutering of KOTOYS.com. I'd much rather buy a purple MP Soundwave than those 3 Autobots again, but I'll purchase ANY new cassette-related item, official or otherwise, just to send them the right message.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Bumblevivisector wrote:I wouldn't be interested in these at all, as Astrotrain, Galvatron, Ironhide, and Octane-Kor were some of the least impressive CHUGGUR molds (though Octank was a nice try that could've worked even better as a voyager than Galvy), but there's one issue no one's mentioned:

Does a Hound reissue automatically = a Ravage reissue, as was evidenced in G2 redux? If they are gang molded OSLT, and Ravage is repainted into Howlback or Stripes, I'm gonna' hafta' fork over as much as it takes to get this set, if that's what it takes to convince HasTak to never ever stop with new Masterpiece cassettes. Once we've gotten new molds of every last cassette, down to the 4 combiner pair and an official Autoscout, I might actually forgive the neutering of KOTOYS.com. I'd much rather buy a purple MP Soundwave than those 3 Autobots again, but I'll purchase ANY new cassette-related item, official or otherwise, just to send them the right message.

I wouldn't count on Ravage getting repainted into a new character. In fact, he may as well be completely omitted, despite being gang-molded.

gothsaurus wrote:Got any pics of Tornado? I'm wracking my brain to place the story and characters. Sounds familiar.

RhA wrote:Also- CHUGGUR!

Bumblevivisector wrote:

RhA wrote:Also- CHUGGUR!

...is, like it or not, technically the most-concise term to convey exactly what I meant there, since this thread did inevitably require a reference to "Classics" as the one-year subline that it was, and therefore cannot be used as an umbrella term for the continuing trend that it started in this context, since I've yet to hear a better collective term for all of those sublines that actually sticks in fandom's consciousness.

...is the end of that sentence.

It's all semiotics. The exclusion principle is a natural law of how language evolves. It's the same reason "seeker" kept persisting when it was thought to be a fan term despite the number of fans who adamantly refused to use it. There are hundreds of TFs with aircraft alts who aren't that body-template, so any synonym that included "jet", "plane", "sky", "flight" etc. couldn't effectively stick, leading to seeker becoming THE term by process of elimination.

If you've got a better term that's usable when one's discussing a group of toys that hail from more than one of those sublines, I'd love to hear it. I don't like being reminded of that Thomas rip-off when discussing TFs either.

Metrosuplex wrote:So what's the asking price? $120? Or is that too optimistic?

I like the reissues, but the prices are just exorbitant. It's really too bad Hasbro doesn't release a version of these for around $60-80. But I guess the predominant mindset among collectors is, "Screw the deluxes! I'm selling my collection and getting all MPs!!! "

Bleh. MPs are too big.

gothsaurus wrote:Red Mirage could be a new G1 character for the main line... plus Skid-Z and Machine Wars Prowl for a club store exclusive and the subscription service.

megatronus wrote:So I guess no Ravage?

Shadowstream wrote:Is there any precedence to Hound having yellow eyes?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Wait wait wait... what about Ratchet, Kup and Perceptor? Different set altogether?