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Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:06 pm
by Metrosuplex
Doesn't anyone else think that a lighter Rhinox is just cheaper to make? I see Hasbro skimp a lot on pigmentation in plastic - their idea of "gray" is abysmally depressing and devoid of color. I suppose that's what "gray" is... but I think Hasbro-gray used to pop more. I see Hasblow Rhinox being dull as a matter of reducing expense.

Nonetheless, I'd probably try to correct the mistake with paint rather than resort to Takara prices! :roll: I still enjoy the affordability of Hasbro toys over Takara. :APPLAUSE:

xyl360 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:I don't think that people dislike Blitzwing in general; they dislike the faults that Hasbro seems to disregard. I personally like Blitzwing, it's just that the mold needs more refinement, such as fixing the shoulder issue.

Yeah, agreed. I really really like Blitzwing, even more than Springer honestly. He's big, beefy and very G1 style. I even figured out a way to wedge the top bits of his shoulders into his chest rather than using the bits that are supposed to (but don't) clip in to hold his shoulders/arms in place and he looks good and is perfectly functional (I can rotate his arms 360 degrees without the shoulders popping out of place). Mine is the Takara version, but I'm sure the same could be done with the Hasbro version.


I'm shocked you guys aren't dripping with venomous hate for Blitzwing. Personally, I was excited to see him in stores. The imperfections are minor, IMO, compared to the wait of seeing a proper Blitzwing appear on shelves again. I understand he should have been more PERFECT, but he's a VOYAGER! He triple changes! Sometimes, I fear that fan complaints serve only to derail a good direction for the toys - at least, I wish people expressed their disregard for Blitz like you two: with reverence and appreciation overall. :BOWDOWN:

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:09 pm
by Metrosuplex
xyl360 wrote:Silver paint is cheap my friend, and those bits would not be hard to paint :).


That's what I was thinking... :lol: But when he suggested Repro labels (and no insult intended here), I was honestly interested in how one would sticker the chains! :lol: I like to keep an open mind, so if we can sticker that somovabich, let's do it! :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:23 pm
by SW's SilverHammer
Metrosuplex wrote:
xyl360 wrote:Silver paint is cheap my friend, and those bits would not be hard to paint :).


That's what I was thinking... :lol: But when he suggested Repro labels (and no insult intended here), I was honestly interested in how one would sticker the chains! :lol: I like to keep an open mind, so if we can sticker that somovabich, let's do it! :michaelbay: :michaelbay: :michaelbay:


Well I would think if reprolabels, hypothetically, made a Rhinox kit that had chain stickers, it would be like those vinyl stickers that you use a hairdryer to make it shape around the plastic.

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:27 am
by TimothyR
looks like i'm going to have to pick up the takara version of rhinox.

i really wish they'd just be the same damn toy. oh well.

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:20 am
by Autobot032
Mmm... Rhinox... Mmm... plasticky goodness...

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:33 am
by fenrir72
xyl360 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:I don't think that people dislike Blitzwing in general; they dislike the faults that Hasbro seems to disregard. I personally like Blitzwing, it's just that the mold needs more refinement, such as fixing the shoulder issue.

Yeah, agreed. I really really like Blitzwing, even more than Springer honestly. He's big, beefy and very G1 style. I even figured out a way to wedge the top bits of his shoulders into his chest rather than using the bits that are supposed to (but don't) clip in to hold his shoulders/arms in place and he looks good and is perfectly functional (I can rotate his arms 360 degrees without the shoulders popping out of place). Mine is the Takara version, but I'm sure the same could be done with the Hasbro version.



How'd you fix it kimosabe? I also have the Tomy version and it really distracts me (the d@mn shoulder issue) on how awesome this mold should have been. Btw Dealer is also a fave of mine, despite being brick (the G1 version), he was quite advance for his time.

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:46 am
by g1grimlock
Everything looks amazing! Finally Rhinox gets the perfect toy he deserves! (Looks at Beastwars checklist) hopefully one day we'll get you Silverbolt oooonnne daaay..

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:44 am
by Midnight_Fox
xyl360 wrote:Hehe, that's one of the reasons I'm getting Takara's version. I'm actually getting both, but that's primarily because I want to do what I can to convince both companies that a Beast Wars revival is a good idea ;).


I'm down with a Beast Wars revival. I could use a period of there being nothing I want to buy from TFs so I can catch up on Kyoryuger and gaming releases. ;)

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:40 am
by Metrosuplex
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well I would think if reprolabels, hypothetically, made a Rhinox kit that had chain stickers, it would be like those vinyl stickers that you use a hairdryer to make it shape around the plastic.

Intriguing. :-B I've never seen stickers like that, nor have experience with the ease of such applications... but it'd be interesting to see. Still, you have to wonder if some cheap silver paint would be, overall, simpler. :roll: But hair dryers to apply vinyl stickers....??? :shock: I feel like I missed some good opportunities in the past from lack of such knowledge...

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:53 am
by SW's SilverHammer
Metrosuplex wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Well I would think if reprolabels, hypothetically, made a Rhinox kit that had chain stickers, it would be like those vinyl stickers that you use a hairdryer to make it shape around the plastic.

Intriguing. :-B I've never seen stickers like that, nor have experience with the ease of such applications... but it'd be interesting to see. Still, you have to wonder if some cheap silver paint would be, overall, simpler. :roll: But hair dryers to apply vinyl stickers....??? :shock: I feel like I missed some good opportunities in the past from lack of such knowledge...

You get the hairdryer to warm the vinyl stickers, the sticker start to shape around the plastic as its actually melting a bit, then you take a toothpick to get the small details

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:21 pm
by xyl360
fenrir72 wrote:
xyl360 wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:I don't think that people dislike Blitzwing in general; they dislike the faults that Hasbro seems to disregard. I personally like Blitzwing, it's just that the mold needs more refinement, such as fixing the shoulder issue.

Yeah, agreed. I really really like Blitzwing, even more than Springer honestly. He's big, beefy and very G1 style. I even figured out a way to wedge the top bits of his shoulders into his chest rather than using the bits that are supposed to (but don't) clip in to hold his shoulders/arms in place and he looks good and is perfectly functional (I can rotate his arms 360 degrees without the shoulders popping out of place). Mine is the Takara version, but I'm sure the same could be done with the Hasbro version.



How'd you fix it kimosabe? I also have the Tomy version and it really distracts me (the d@mn shoulder issue) on how awesome this mold should have been. Btw Dealer is also a fave of mine, despite being brick (the G1 version), he was quite advance for his time.

You basically slightly flex out on the bits that are supposed to form the tops of his shoulders so that you can slide them in sideways, wedging them against the inside of his chest piece. I hope that makes sense :P. I'd take a pic but I don't have a camera at the moment.

Re: New Images Transformers Generations 30th Anniversary Voyagers Rhinox and Doubledealer

PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:03 pm
by fenrir72
Flex and slide. Got it.