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Spleenzorio wrote:

DoctorOblivian wrote:

Spleenzorio wrote:Soooo with all these new movie toys, I haven't seen any sign of Starscream anywhere.

thats probably because Starscream is dead... his head got exploded by sam in DOTM, remember?

But but but but but indestructible spark D:

It would be pretty cool if they could somehow integrate that into the movie. What if Sam still had some Matrix dust on his hair from ROTF when he killed Starscream, and while Sam was swinging around, the dust got in Starscream's mouth and fertilized his spark to keep it online forever? Or something like that.

Does this mean that the Generations Legends toys with their target-master weapon buddies aren't cancelled since they're showing them all off? Swerve, Cosmos, Tailgate, Shrapnel, Acid Storm, Gears?

So they repainted the mini Waspinator as Bugly and Acid Storm is actually bright green instead of that crappy camo color? Cool :

Leader Jetfire? He looks more Voyager size. Is he definitely a Leader?

Prime's Evasion mode is interesting and gives away a possible plot point, needing to hide or run away at some point (possibly from a bounty hunter) though why he stick a great big Autobot symbol on the side seems daft.

I'm liking a lot of what I see. Not a movie verse fan but I do appreciate some of those toys. Seems to be a bit of a samurai element going on with grim lock and the Bugatti. I like bumblebee too and the dinobots. Not too convinced bout the huge grimlock but I think the kids will love it.

I also think it's a good idea to introduce simpler transformations. As a kid part of the joy of playing was seeing how quickly I could transform the autobots to launch a counterattack and the deceptions to retreat. As an adult collector I love the intricacy and detail and engineering of the modern toys so separating the lines helps.

Will have to get that jet fire I suppose *sigh* and am looking forward to new Meg's and op classics as those are two I have missing from my collection.

The video game will have to wait till the ps4 comes down in price or uncharted 4 is released.

K2vox wrote:Does this mean that the Generations Legends toys with their target-master weapon buddies aren't cancelled since they're showing them all off? Swerve, Cosmos, Tailgate, Shrapnel, Acid Storm, Gears?

My guess is that these may not appear until after the main push of movie characters is over. But they will appear, and aren't canceled; why else would they be shown at Hasbro's media event? This makes me SO glad I didn't go for a $40 Swerve or Cosmos imported from Asia.

I don't collect Kre-o or Kreons, but I did happen to see in that display....KREON SLIPSTREAM!! I'm such a pushover for any fembot character.

I'm a little disappointed that Chromia and Arcee weren't shown, but maybe they weren't far along enough to have samples available, or will be shown later. Same with Nightbeat, who I PRAY isn't a retool/repaint of RTS Jazz who I never liked. Great bot mode, and cool car mode, but he never held together well-his chest didn't lock in place, and the plastic they used on his arm joints wasn't of the highest quality, so the ball joints wore out pretty quickly. It seems to have been fixed with Wheelie.

Those Age of Extinction toys- qwsaaachZCFHGVJHBKJNLKM;L,' Sorry, I was just wiping the puke off my keyboard.

Noideaforaname wrote:?!?!?!?!?

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Clearly a Futurama crossover!

I think Evasion OP would look awesome with a Takara style premium paint job?

K2vox wrote:Does this mean that the Generations Legends toys with their target-master weapon buddies aren't cancelled since they're showing them all off? Swerve, Cosmos, Tailgate, Shrapnel, Acid Storm, Gears?

Their "cancellation" was a nasty rumor crafted by paranoid fans.

xyl360 wrote:So they repainted the mini Waspinator as Bugly

Venin

Ravage XK wrote:Leader Jetfire? He looks more Voyager size. Is he definitely a Leader?

He towers over Voyager Sky-Byte.

Ravage XK wrote:Prime's Evasion mode is interesting and gives away a possible plot point, needing to hide or run away at some point (possibly from a bounty hunter) though why he stick a great big Autobot symbol on the side seems daft.

The in-movie version has him in that rusty old white truck instead of a slavishly-G1 truck.

Bounti76 wrote:Same with Nightbeat, who I PRAY isn't a retool/repaint of RTS Jazz who I never liked.

Nightbeat is a remold of IDW Bumblebee, and looks really good. Ryan will more than likely soon have galleries up for the official stock photos of these toys, which will include Nightbeat.

Sabrblade wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:Same with Nightbeat, who I PRAY isn't a retool/repaint of RTS Jazz who I never liked.

Nightbeat is a remold of IDW Bumblebee, and looks really good. Ryan will more than likely soon have galleries up for the official stock photos of these toys, which will include Nightbeat.

Yeah, we're working on those. Technical difficulties prevent us from posting them last night.

No.
He's supposed tobe orange:

The AoE toys are terrible and I'm not talking from a collectors point of view. If I was still a kid and saw all the stuff on the shelf, I wouldn't want to pick them up and would not bother about Transformers. The thing is, it isn't Hasbro's fault. I get what they are trying to do which is make them easy for kids to transform but why oh why did they have to start with Movieverse toys? Michael Bay has made the characters look so complicated that Hasbro have had to try and make them work in simplified toys and it just doesn't work. The only AoE toys that look half way decent are the Kreon and Construct Bot lines. The rest would have been questionable even as Legend class toys.

Mykltron wrote:
No.
He's supposed tobe orange:

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I applaud this tremendous use of snark. Well done, sir.

Serious note: those arms HAVE TO BE mistransformed. They just have to be.

Va'al wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:So do we have a name for the new Freightliner truck from AoE? I saw the figure in a couple of the photos.

Do you mean Galvatron?

I really, REALLY hope this gets a Leader Class figure down the line. I love that truck mode.

Manterax Prime wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Rated X wrote:I fail to see why non TF products should be front paged just because they were in the same toy fair. Might as well front page pictures of the restroom too since the hasbro staff "officially" used it.

This kind of attitude is not necessary.

True, but you can't deny he has a point.

Indeed, as much as I hate to ever sound like I am agreeing with Rated X.



I mean, it does all seem rather counter to the stated reason why the site dropped third party coverage.

A purely hypothetical conversation:

Sighburtron*: We're dropping third party coverage, because this website is only about Hasbro, Takara, or otherwise officially licensed Transformers product.

Someone Else: But... what about the sponsored news posts that are full of third party content? Or content, official or otherwise, not even related to Transformers?

Sighburtron: Well... They give me money, so they can do whatever. But other then that, only official Transformers!

Someone Else: So, this Toy Fair coverage. That's a lot of Star Wars toys, and I thought the Star Wars Transformers line died out years ago... And what's with all the Pony stuff? Unless they're coming out with Optipink Pieme, I fail to see what that has to do with anything.

Sighburtron: Well... It is official Hasbro product, and, you know, always nice to stay on Hasbro's good side...

Someone Else: Good side? So I'm sure they love all of the sponsored news posts with third party product then, eh? (Raises an eyebrow.)

Sighburtron: Um... Transformers rule! (Runs and hides.)

*A purely hypothetical character not in any way related to the actual owner of this website.

Look, it's Seibertron's website, he can do what he'd like with it. He could post ten front page stories in a row about Morris Dancing for all I care. I just wish that what he allowed was consistent with what he said he was allowing...

Anyway... That aside, and back to the actual topic of this thread...

All of the Generations stuff looks pretty nice! And that Evasion Mode Optimus Prime is something of a surprise. I was planning on giving AOE stuff a miss. (Probably not even going to bother seeing the film... You've burned me enough, Mr. Bay!) But if I see that one in stores, I'll probably at least pick it up and give it a considering look.

Having the mega-thread in the TF Toys section skewers that a bit, yes, but it makes it easier for the staff to post and keep track of it!

We post all sorts of news from Hasbro on the front page (company statements, press releases) but usually from the General Discussion section - these happened to be placed in here for the reason above. Consider them on par with the 3D printer news from yesterday, that should appease the more order-craving of you.

El Duque wrote:

Rated X wrote:I fail to see why non TF products should be front paged just because they were in the same toy fair. Might as well front page pictures of the restroom too since the hasbro staff "officially" used it.

Because Hasbro, who produces all of these products, was kind enough to invite us to their invitation only event?

Getting tired of these thinly veiled "I don't like your stance on 3rd party" posts. If we had time we would take pictures and cover every single item they had on display from Transformers to Play Doh to MLP. In reality this isn't even really Toy Fair. Toy Fair starts tomorrow, this was Hasbro Media Day.

Im not trying to come at you wrong cuz I know you in person. But I gotta ask...if there was no "hasbro media day" you guys would have been right there the next day with a regular ticketed entry to cover the fair ? So because hasbro let you in a day early, you pay them back by promoting play doh, mlp, star wars etc ? Didnt the star wars guys show up to take pictures for their website ? Were the jabronies not on the scene either ? I never said a word about third parties in my comment. All im saying is weve all been told countless times this is a website that only front pages "official" transformers news. That isnt exactly an accurate statement anymore. Just some food for thought...

Yotsuyasan wrote:

Manterax Prime wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Rated X wrote:I fail to see why non TF products should be front paged just because they were in the same toy fair. Might as well front page pictures of the restroom too since the hasbro staff "officially" used it.

This kind of attitude is not necessary.

True, but you can't deny he has a point.

Indeed, as much as I hate to ever sound like I am agreeing with Rated X.



I mean, it does all seem rather counter to the stated reason why the site dropped third party coverage.

A purely hypothetical conversation:

Sighburtron*: We're dropping third party coverage, because this website is only about Hasbro, Takara, or otherwise officially licensed Transformers product.

Someone Else: But... what about the sponsored news posts that are full of third party content? Or content, official or otherwise, not even related to Transformers?

Sighburtron: Well... They give me money, so they can do whatever. But other then that, only official Transformers!

Someone Else: So, this Toy Fair coverage. That's a lot of Star Wars toys, and I thought the Star Wars Transformers line died out years ago... And what's with all the Pony stuff? Unless they're coming out with Optipink Pieme, I fail to see what that has to do with anything.

Sighburtron: Well... It is official Hasbro product, and, you know, always nice to stay on Hasbro's good side...

Someone Else: Good side? So I'm sure they love all of the sponsored news posts with third party product then, eh? (Raises an eyebrow.)

Sighburtron: Um... Transformers rule! (Runs and hides.)

*A purely hypothetical character not in any way related to the actual owner of this website.

Look, it's Seibertron's website, he can do what he'd like with it. He could post ten front page stories in a row about Morris Dancing for all I care. I just wish that what he allowed was consistent with what he said he was allowing...

Anyway... That aside, and back to the actual topic of this thread...

All of the Generations stuff looks pretty nice! And that Evasion Mode Optimus Prime is something of a surprise. I was planning on giving AOE stuff a miss. (Probably not even going to bother seeing the film... You've burned me enough, Mr. Bay!) But if I see that one in stores, I'll probably at least pick it up and give it a considering look.

I want to buy you a beer...my treat

WTH??

So we now know Galvatron is the freightLiner Argosy! I am a little bit disappointed, but the toy looks nice. The deluxe are shining and the voyagers too. The dinobots are amazing, and the leaders eh the leaders class I really like Grimlock, Optimus still **** for me.... maybe will get him just because is a collection , maybe. I am licking the deluxe class figures!!!

Let`s wait for leader Galvatron. Cyclonus probably will get a voyager, we still not seen Bumblebee new version as deluxe and the others decepticons cars....

This is pretty sad. Rescue Bots Epic Optimus, maybe the AoE flat nosed, G1 styled Prime, the Generations Legends figures and the Rescue Bots dinobots are the only things so far that like even remotely appealing and since the only place I can get any of the decent Generations figures (without buying them online which I flat REFUSE to do) jacks up the price $2 to 5 bucks higher than they should be... I really don't see buying much of anything from Hasbro this year. The Generations line is turning into something of a disappointment with entirely too many re-paints coupled with crappy availability in my area, the big "30" figures thing is a farce as it is only a collection of re-paints that most of us can't afford and they're all TrU exclusives on top of it, the AoE line, while being focused towards the kids (as it should be) has dumbed their figures down below the level of the Rescue Bots and makes the original G1 figures seem like astounding works of art. Basically...Hasbro has found a way to take every single one of their standard Transformers production lines and F it up in some manner, slap higher price tags on it and have their marketing team ramp their efforts up to "11" and shove it down our throats. Painting sh** gold and presenting it to the masses does not make it actual gold. It's just gold painted sh** and everyone is going freaking bonkers over it.

That's just my OPINION but after being in this game for 30 years now it's one that I think is well earned especially since my cousin and I spent all of yesterday driving around, hitting retailers, toy stores and collectibles shops looking for Transformers, Gundams, Robotech, Voltron and all other manner of classic pieces of our childhood as well as looking for new TF figures and we got to see all facets of the Transformer timeline represented during our jaunt. I look at what we have available now and what's coming up shortly and I am not at all impressed at the over-all selection for fans OR kids, Rescue Bots line notwithstanding. THAT line is the only thing worth a damn so far.

autobot1979 wrote:So we now know Galvatron is the freightLiner Argosy! I am a little bit disappointed, but the toy looks nice. The deluxe are shining and the voyagers too. The dinobots are amazing, and the leaders eh the leaders class I really like Grimlock, Optimus still **** for me.... maybe will get him just because is a collection , maybe. I am licking the deluxe class figures!!!

Let`s wait for leader Galvatron. Cyclonus probably will get a voyager, we still not seen Bumblebee new version as deluxe and the others decepticons cars....

galvatron does look pretty good. im hoping for a leader class too. megatron didnt get one last time and it kind of made me sad

dreadwing95 wrote:

autobot1979 wrote:So we now know Galvatron is the freightLiner Argosy! I am a little bit disappointed, but the toy looks nice. The deluxe are shining and the voyagers too. The dinobots are amazing, and the leaders eh the leaders class I really like Grimlock, Optimus still **** for me.... maybe will get him just because is a collection , maybe. I am licking the deluxe class figures!!!

Let`s wait for leader Galvatron. Cyclonus probably will get a voyager, we still not seen Bumblebee new version as deluxe and the others decepticons cars....

galvatron does look pretty good. im hoping for a leader class too. megatron didnt get one last time and it kind of made me sad

I've heard a few times that Decepticons don't sell as well as Autobots. I don't know if that's true or not (I'd imagine they'd sell more, due to being generally shortpacked and badass molds) but if that's the case, it might explain why we might not see a Leader Class Galvatron.

I do like the Voyager, though. I think he looks pretty good, actually.