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Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:21 am
by TimothyR
i think this combination looks much much better than the bruticus version. . i may have to pick these guys up.. but i'm certainly not going to pay the retail $15 price per figure on it. if there's a sale, i'll pick them up. otherwise.. no thank you.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:11 am
by -Kanrabat-
I sold my G2 colored FOC Bruticus without regret. The whole thing was just "meh" looking and felt pretty cheap.

However, I may just get this Wrecker set because they look way better than their :CON: counterpart.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:47 am
by Convotron
Thank you for yet another wonderful gallery.

The combination of the new deco, retooled sculpts, and new accessories really make this set stand apart from the FoC Combaticons in a good way.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:30 am
by Jack Hallows
just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a **** attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:39 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a **** attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.


1) Still better than endless amounts of straight repaints like they've done in the past, wouldn't you say?
2) Don't like it? Don't buy it.

And "all the money" is fairly subjective. We have no sales numbers, so yeah...

Great galleries as always, Ryan, reconfirming getting them for sure.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:12 am
by mooncake623
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a **** attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.


1) Still better than endless amounts of straight repaints like they've done in the past, wouldn't you say?
2) Don't like it? Don't buy it.

And "all the money" is fairly subjective. We have no sales numbers, so yeah...

Great galleries as always, Ryan, reconfirming getting them for sure.


I'm Glad we get new weapons and new heads on repaint these days. Back in the days we almost never get new heads. New head with a different paint scheme is great!



Impactor and Roadbuster looks awesome in my Wreckers Shelf! =]
the other three... I'll just throw in my FOC shelf.

Great pictures btw!

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:13 am
by AutoBorst
Wow Hasbro, repaint much? That combined mode is hideous.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:15 am
by joevill
That Whirl looks amazing!

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:02 am
by Jack Hallows
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:1) Still better than endless amounts of straight repaints like they've done in the past, wouldn't you say?
2) Don't like it? Don't buy it.

And "all the money" is fairly subjective. We have no sales numbers, so yeah...


oh please. of course they look better. it's the freaking Wreckers we're talkin about.

overall, if the toys weren't garnering revenue, hasbro wouldn't continue to push em out like this.

i understand that since it's a combiner set, the whole "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality comes into play, but geez. those boys deserve better than this. they know they can do better. we all do. hasbro's just being lazy, knowing that diehard transformers fan'll eat up whatever they spew out.

that being said, it's the Wreckers. hell yea i'm coppin em. but i'm not happy about the way they're bring treated.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:10 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
Jack Hallows wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:1) Still better than endless amounts of straight repaints like they've done in the past, wouldn't you say?
2) Don't like it? Don't buy it.

And "all the money" is fairly subjective. We have no sales numbers, so yeah...


oh please. of course they look better. it's the freaking Wreckers we're talkin about.

overall, if the toys weren't garnering revenue, hasbro wouldn't continue to push em out like this.

i understand that since it's a combiner set, the whole "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality comes into play, but geez. those boys deserve better than this. they know they can do better. we all do. hasbro's just being lazy, knowing that diehard transformers fan'll eat up whatever they spew out.

that being said, it's the Wreckers. hell yea i'm coppin em. but i'm not happy about the way they're bring treated.


It's still a step in the right direction, since Roadbuster and Whirl straight repaints at first (see Cybertron Defense Hot Shot, Cybertron Legends Evac and Movie Voyager Evac).

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:24 am
by njb902
I just opened mine and I'm super psyched about the new weapons, they are just so awesome!

Great picks Ryan.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:28 am
by Noideaforaname
5 recolors and it took an Autobot to cast that tank mold in any color besides green.

I was dimly interested in this set for Whirl, but he's getting a Voyager (this or next year?) so I'm passing on this one. Hopefully the other Wreckers get unique molds down the line, too.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:59 am
by Seibertron
I can't help but wonder if this Wreckers set is a pre-cursor to the Wreckers done right. We already know we're getting an amazing Whirl next year, as shown in the Hasbro panel at BotCon. We might even find out some more exciting stuff next Thursday at SDCC. I'd love to see all of the main Wreckers done right, including a proper Impactor. Give me a Rack n' Ruin and an Emirate Xaaron to boot and I'll be extremely happy.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:07 pm
by njb902
Even if they weren't there from the beginning we have a preceptor, kup, springer, and a few ultra magni.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:24 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Seibertron wrote:I can't help but wonder if this Wreckers set is a pre-cursor to the Wreckers done right. We already know we're getting an amazing Whirl next year, as shown in the Hasbro panel at BotCon. We might even find out some more exciting stuff next Thursday at SDCC. I'd love to see all of the main Wreckers done right, including a proper Impactor. Give me a Rack n' Ruin and an Emirate Xaaron to boot and I'll be extremely happy.


I agree. I think Hasbro likes to use redecos and retools as a means to "test the waters" for more obscure characters without breaking the bank on a whole new mold. I like such careful thinking, and the creativity forced as a consequence.

Question is, where will they end up? I guess I can use them with GDO Springer and FOC Ultra Magnus.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:55 pm
by Mkall
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Question is, where will they end up? I guess I can use them with GDO Springer and FOC Ultra Magnus.

This set will work wonderfully as my Shattered Glass Wreckers.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:55 pm
by Nemesis Destron
Maybe a 3rd Party is observing that will put out a weapons upgrade set including Impactor's shoulder cannon and harpoon like weapon. :VEHI:

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:12 pm
by njb902
Nemesis Destron wrote:Maybe a 3rd Party is observing that will put out a weapons upgrade set including Impactor's shoulder cannon and harpoon like weapon. :VEHI:


I do like weapons.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:13 pm
by UltraPrimal
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Seibertron wrote:I can't help but wonder if this Wreckers set is a pre-cursor to the Wreckers done right. We already know we're getting an amazing Whirl next year, as shown in the Hasbro panel at BotCon. We might even find out some more exciting stuff next Thursday at SDCC. I'd love to see all of the main Wreckers done right, including a proper Impactor. Give me a Rack n' Ruin and an Emirate Xaaron to boot and I'll be extremely happy.


I agree. I think Hasbro likes to use redecos and retools as a means to "test the waters" for more obscure characters without breaking the bank on a whole new mold. I like such careful thinking, and the creativity forced as a consequence.

Question is, where will they end up? I guess I can use them with GDO Springer and FOC Ultra Magnus.

That's the only thing that stopping me from getting these guys. That we'll eventually get better, original versions later on. Whirl, who is the weakest of this set due to his poor and inaccurate color scheme, is getting an original mold. And I suspect that's probably why they gave him such an inaccurate color scheme. To differentiate the two.

Plus the club is doing Ironfist as a subscription figure. I'm honestly surprised they didn't save him for a box set of Wreckers. That surely would have been a slam dunk box set for FunPub. The fact that they're not seems like they know we will see more original Wreckers some time soon.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:05 pm
by Eagleblaster
Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a **** attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.


Like wise. Seeing all these repaints makes me upset as well. I'm really smdh. I still can't get over that I wasted 80 or so dollars on generations bruticus. This entire situation with this toy is Not Good. What other toy maker just throws some different paint on a figure and then goes " hey everybody, here is a new toy". No, that's not a new toy, you just painted it a different color. :HEADHURTS:
And just the sight of these makes me want to forget about hasbro and only collect Masterpieces.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:14 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Eagleblaster wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a **** attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.


Like wise. Seeing all these repaints makes me upset as well. I'm really smdh. I still can't get over that I wasted 80 or so dollars on generations bruticus. This entire situation with this toy is Not Good. What other toy maker just throws some different paint on a figure and then goes " hey everybody, here is a new toy". No, that's not a new toy, you just painted it a different color. :HEADHURTS:
And just the sight of these makes me want to forget about hasbro and only collect Masterpieces.


The first years of G1 had plenty of repaints and retools yet nobody complained... :roll:

Repaints and retools are a necessary evil though. Hasbro has stated that in order to break even with the costs of the development of a toy, the mold has to have at least two different releases.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:21 pm
by Eagleblaster
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Eagleblaster wrote:
Jack Hallows wrote:just looking at the second picture of all the identical molds for different figures shows how much of a **** attitude hasbro has for transformers now. all the money they make from sales and the best they can do is a different head, new weapons and a paint over? foh hasbro. you disgust me.

Wreck n Rule baby.


Like wise. Seeing all these repaints makes me upset as well. I'm really smdh. I still can't get over that I wasted 80 or so dollars on generations bruticus. This entire situation with this toy is Not Good. What other toy maker just throws some different paint on a figure and then goes " hey everybody, here is a new toy". No, that's not a new toy, you just painted it a different color. :HEADHURTS:
And just the sight of these makes me want to forget about hasbro and only collect Masterpieces.



The first years of G1 had plenty of repaints and retools yet nobody complained... :roll:

Repaints and retools are a necessary evil though. Hasbro has stated that in order to break even with the costs of the development of a toy, the mold has to have at least two different releases.


A figure should get no more than one repaint. And if hasbro wants to do more than one then the second repaint has to be a drastic retool like Generations Sandstorm and mp-Smokescreen. This is how I fell and my opinion.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:52 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Jack Hallows wrote:overall, if the toys weren't garnering revenue, hasbro wouldn't continue to push em out like this.


God forbid that a corporation is making money with a product! The things that nobody want and make the company lose millions for lack of sales are clearly the most amazing thing ever!
Let's make no one buy Transformers anymore. That way, Hasbro will pull the plug on the franchise and all our toys will magicaly become priceless treasures. We will bask in the brand that is now rended irrelevant.

Continue being an ultimate hipster while I facepalm myself until unconsciousness.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Impactor, Whirl, Roadbuster, Twintwist, Topspin and Ruination

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:06 pm
by -Kanrabat-
Eagleblaster wrote:A figure should get no more than one repaint. And if hasbro wants to do more than one then the second repaint has to be a drastic retool like Generations Sandstorm and mp-Smokescreen. This is how I fell and my opinion.


If it were YOUR money on the line, you would think differently. I really dont mind normal retail repaints/retool because if I love a mold very much, I can have it again in a new way. Somethime, a given transformers is butt-ugly and just horrible looking. Then, a shiny new coat of paint and/or some new molded details and MAGIC! We just got one of the best transformers ever.

I bought and hated the G2 FOC Bruticus set. However, I just saw the FOC Wreckers and I burn with desire to buy them.

Dont forget that creating brand new molds is costly. To pay for these new molds, money need to be made. For the price a mold is, the most popular ones MUST be used again to make them profitable. It's simple economics. Repaints dont prevent new stuff for coming out. Repaints HELP the new stuf from getting out.

Also, dont want the thing? Dont but it. It's as simple as that.

Re: New Generations Galleries: Legends Class Starscream with Waspinator and Megatron with Chop Shop

PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:23 pm
by prowl123
I originally thought it said "Leader class," and I just sat at the computer staring in disgust at the terrible molds and bad paint job... Then I figured it out. My God I nearly had a heart attack.