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Re: New Gallery: Generations Voyager Class Whirl

PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:50 pm
by Flashwave
durroth wrote:
Seibertron wrote: I do think that the upper legs are misassembled. Hasbro and Takara are usually really good about making sure the front and sides of the robot modes don't show hollow plastic. The way the legs are show hollow spots on the sides of the upper legs but the upper legs look much better when turned around 180 degrees. Just the knees are awkward as are the feet when you do this.

What it's looking like to me is they had to compromise for the inverted legs and chose to sacrifice the upper legs of the robot mode for looking better in vehicle mode. Any other side would have been the top/side of the upper leg piece in vehicle mode or the front in robot mode, so they chose to ignore it being on the outside in robot mode rather than redesign the thigh... which would have probably necessitated a game of "Which side do we put the screws on" ... actually I think the whole thing could have been solved if they designed the waist/hips piece to be rotatable 180 degrees in its slider (basically ending up with it "upside down" in one configuration. Really you can't see it in robot mode anyway, but it would reverse which side of the thigh is "outward" in robot mode and all we'd lose is the landing skiff c-clip points being on the outside... If I'm picturing this right in my head)


Solvew the issue once and for all: Waist flaps like Energon Bulkhead had... Its the only strike I have angainst Whirl, the sides of an otherwise amazing NOT Apache helicopter cockpit look like mechanical thighs. Somethi ng that could've folded over or around them, even something like how PRID Magnus' wheel assembly worked around his calf would've made a HUGE difference for me and could've covered or allowed for relocating the screw holes.

durroth wrote:I kinda wish takara/hasbro would consider springing the little extra for dry transfer (rub on) decals. Or some chinese 3rd party would start making water sliders. at least for this whirl where the stickers would all look better as decals to begin with.


No... just no. I've used and printed Wet Transfer/Waterslide for model trains, and it won't work for TFs. the intended market is A) too young and/or too rough on them for the decals to work B)not gonna buy or have the sealcoat needed to protect the decals and C) not gonna have the patience or interest in masking their TFs to apply the decal sealer. And you HAVE to apply the sealer, water wo;t magically not activate the decals just because they're on Whirl and not the paper. "Optional" detail arguments won't work either, just ask the Arms Micron guys how much they love their naked figures.

Dry Transfers would be infintately better than wet, but they still takr more patince than aa 10 yea old is gonna spend on a toy, and even the 4H kids and young modellers who do kits and RC and Pinewood and whatever else won't do this to a toy like Whirl. And yes, kids will be buying Whirl, even if he is an homage to 80s fans, if he were a collector piece Wal-Mart wouldn't be carrying him!

Not everyone is a Customizer, nor should they be. Heck, I paint my own trains, I even have a Beast Hunters Hun Grr in a drying rack halfway to looking like Doublecross, (The lower half, if you were curious, I;m still working on his necks) and I wouldn't bother decalling Whirl if they weren't stickers.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:24 am
by RiddlerJ
mooncake623 wrote:Anyone troop building these minicons? I think I kind of am =X hopefully they'll be enough connections points on them where I can just clip everything into a huge massive ball. :grin:

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:05 am
by Sabrblade
mooncake623 wrote:Anyone troop building these minicons? I think I kind of am =X hopefully they'll be enough connections points on them where I can just clip everything into a huge massive ball. :grin:
That's a neat idea. With that many you'd have your small army of Ammonites. 8)

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:24 am
by GuyIncognito
Hasbro should be sending product samples to Ryan before their release for him to photograph. His photos make the figures seem so much more appealing than the standard stock photos. There have been so many figures that I hadn't planned on buying until I saw the Seibertron gallery.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:24 am
by wilcosu35
Noideaforaname wrote:Looking forward to the Mini-Cons the most. Love small combiners, and they'll make great rivals to Abominus!

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That doesn't look right. Shouldn't tail rotors all be equidistant from each other, a perfect X? Looks like it's missing two blades or something.



The AH-64 Apache would like to object to your opinion :grin:

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Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:38 pm
by Seibertron
mooncake623 wrote:Anyone troop building these minicons? I think I kind of am =X hopefully they'll be enough connections points on them where I can just clip everything into a huge massive ball. :grin:


I thought about doing this ... I wouldn't mind having 2 more sets. That seems to be my happy troop builder number. 3 Sweeps. 3 Sharticons. 3 of each Vehicon mold/version. Basically ... a leader and two troops.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:43 pm
by Seibertron
GuyIncognito wrote:Hasbro should be sending product samples to Ryan before their release for him to photograph. His photos make the figures seem so much more appealing than the standard stock photos. There have been so many figures that I hadn't planned on buying until I saw the Seibertron gallery.


Thanks for the compliment, GuyIncognito. It's nice to hear things like this.

I wish Hasbro would do this also! Mattel does it for some of their products. Licensed companies such as Shout! and Kids Logic have sent me early samples for review purposes. The catch with Hasbro is that they seem to treat all of the fansites the same, regardless of their popularity (i.e. if they do it for one site, they do it for all ... no favorites, which I'm assuming came out of the whole Orson's World ordeal 10 years ago). Great for the little guy, but not so great for the big sites like Seibertron.com.

If Hasbro's reading this ... I'd love to get early samples so that I can photograph them to help with promoting upcoming products!

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:49 pm
by GuyIncognito
Well they're missing out on a great way to get their products promoted for free! You'd get more traffic for your site, and Hasbro would get free advertising. It would be a win-win situation.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:54 pm
by Seibertron
GuyIncognito wrote:Well they're missing out on a great way to get their products promoted for free! You'd get more traffic for your site, and Hasbro would get free advertising. It would be a win-win situation.


:D That would be awesome! I'd love to be able to bring this content to you guys sooner than when it first hits retail.

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:53 pm
by MINDVVIPE
Nice galleries. They have reconfirmed my disinterest in the minicons, but are making me get my hopes up for a cool Jhiaxus. Thats not a bad Starscream mold from what I see. Anyone able to tell me if the shoulder intakes/canons can be positioned in a halfway point? I think that would be ideal for the Jhiaxus version. The jet mode seems to have the intakes at an angle that doesn't go with the rest of the jet... Why is that?

Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:02 am
by Seibertron
MINDVVIPE wrote:Nice galleries. They have reconfirmed my disinterest in the minicons, but are making me get my hopes up for a cool Jhiaxus. Thats not a bad Starscream mold from what I see. Anyone able to tell me if the shoulder intakes/canons can be positioned in a halfway point? I think that would be ideal for the Jhiaxus version. The jet mode seems to have the intakes at an angle that doesn't go with the rest of the jet... Why is that?


Yes they can be posed halfway as shown in this picture

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Re: New Galleries: Generations Armada Starscream, Scoop, Skywarp and Mini-Con Assault Team

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:38 am
by MINDVVIPE
Thanks, I must have missed that one. It looks like the wing arrangement can also be altered to suit a more contained body opposed to the wide shoulder look.

Re: New Gallery: Generations Voyager Class Whirl

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:47 pm
by Jelze Bunnycat
Yipe, Whirl may look great but he actually seems to have some problems. The legs I can forgive as you're left with a good choice. This... not so much:

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Courtesy of Robot House.

Could be isolated incident, I say be really careful nonetheless.

Re: New Gallery: Generations Voyager Class Whirl

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 3:50 pm
by AnnaChristine
:edit: comment no longer needed. Nothing to see here. <.<

Re: New Gallery: Generations Voyager Class Whirl

PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:53 pm
by Genocide G2.0
Glad i checked this out it proved very informative :D , i hope those legs aren't prone to breaking :shock: . Thanks guys .

Re: New Gallery: Generations Voyager Class Whirl

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:19 pm
by Seibertron
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Yipe, Whirl may look great but he actually seems to have some problems. The legs I can forgive as you're left with a good choice. This... not so much:

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Courtesy of Robot House.

Could be isolated incident, I say be really careful nonetheless.


That's scary. This new softer plastic Hasbro is using is very problematic. I've broken four deluxe class Transformers Generations figures so far ...

#1 - Bumblebee ... a tab broke off first time I transformed him.

#2 - Orion Pax (Takara) ... one of the wheels snapped off first time I transformed him.

#3 - Megatron ... severe stress marks on sides of black plastic where his head pops through because his head was mis-positioned when transforming his chest area and pushing his head through the hole.

#4 - Skids ... ball joint for upper left leg snapped right off his crotch when I tried popping off the leg to swap the upper leg parts that are misassembled from the factory.

That's four out of 14 deluxe class Generations figures that I've had problems with. Very distressing (pun intended)!!!

New Gallery: Takara Tomy Generations TG-26 Bumblebee Goldbug

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:40 pm
by Mindmaster
Adding to our expansive galleries, Seibertron.com presents Takara's answer to Hasbro's IDW-inspired Generations Bumblebee, Generations Bumblebee Goldbug! Despite the figure's name, Bumblebee Goldbug does not share the same head sculpt that Hasbro's Goldfire (an homage to Generation One Bumblebee's upgraded form, Goldbug), rather using a nigh-identical deco with the exception of the head, weapon(s), and forearms. Check out the suped-up Autobot scout below!

Generations Bumblebee Goldbug

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Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations 2013 - 2014

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:33 pm
by Sabrblade
I great prefer the Hasbro decos to the Takara one, as the Hasbro ones are more media-accurate as opposed to Takara's deco that looks more like it's trying to evoke the colors of Movie Bumblebee (minus the blue head).

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations 2013 - 2014

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:13 pm
by Shadowstream
Like the yellow plastic colors and the gunmetal grey, but nothing else. So that's basically 3 Bumblebees out of the same mold so far without even a hint of a possible re-use as... well ANY of the multitude of characters who share his body type.

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations 2013 - 2014

PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:15 pm
by megatronus
I despise Hasbro's Bumblebee.

I adore Hasbro's Goldfire.

Takara's Bumblebee Goldbug falls somewhere in the middle.

Re: New Gallery: Generations Voyager Class Whirl

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 8:46 am
by Jelze Bunnycat
Seibertron wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Yipe, Whirl may look great but he actually seems to have some problems. The legs I can forgive as you're left with a good choice. This... not so much:

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Courtesy of Robot House.

Could be isolated incident, I say be really careful nonetheless.


That's scary. This new softer plastic Hasbro is using is very problematic. I've broken four deluxe class Transformers Generations figures so far ...

#1 - Bumblebee ... a tab broke off first time I transformed him.

#2 - Orion Pax (Takara) ... one of the wheels snapped off first time I transformed him.

#3 - Megatron ... severe stress marks on sides of black plastic where his head pops through because his head was mis-positioned when transforming his chest area and pushing his head through the hole.

#4 - Skids ... ball joint for upper left leg snapped right off his crotch when I tried popping off the leg to swap the upper leg parts that are misassembled from the factory.

That's four out of 14 deluxe class Generations figures that I've had problems with. Very distressing (pun intended)!!!


YIKES! Surely not the type of figures you'd want kids to play with, or people who don't know their own strength (no offense). :shock:

New Galleries: Takara Tomy Generations TG-25 Orion Pax vs Megatronus

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:54 am
by Va'al
Not long after the last night's Goldbug gallery, Seibertron.com is proud to present yet more galleries of Takara Generations Deluxe figures, and this time, it's double trouble. Take a look below at the awkwardly named Megatronus vs Orion Pax two-pack, all their shinyness - click on any of the images for the full gallery, and check out their Hasbro counterparts here for Orion, and here for Megatron!

Generations Megatronus

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Generations Orion Pax

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Re: New Gallery: Generations Voyager Class Whirl

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:00 am
by mooncake623
Seibertron wrote:
#4 - Skids ... ball joint for upper left leg snapped right off his crotch when I tried popping off the leg to swap the upper leg parts that are misassembled from the factory.

That's four out of 14 deluxe class Generations figures that I've had problems with. Very distressing (pun intended)!!!


Wow the exact same thing happened to me on the same leg on the same ball joint when I was trying to fix the misassembly issue.... was a bitch to find another one. ended up paying 20 bucks for him at a comic book shop.

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations 2013 - 2014

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:23 am
by welcometothedarksyde
He looks way better than the already cool American version

Re: New Galleries: Transformers Generations 2013 - 2014

PostPosted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 6:50 pm
by Sabrblade
welcometothedarksyde wrote:He looks way better than the already cool American version
He who?