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Being a firstimer here, I will state clearly that I respect everyone's opinion here.

With that being said,

I HATE THIS CAR WITH EVERY FIBERS OF MY BODY!!!!!

Like in the first film, bee will have an awesome looking car mode, then and ugly car mode.

Way to go Bay, way to go...

I bet y'all that bee will speak trhough the $?%$&!!! radio again... something that'S getting very old now

quite frankly, I so far all the car modes shown here are amazing... but as always, Bee dissapoints, except for the 67 camaro car mode. Hell, My 2005 Civic looks better thant that ugly piece of $h!t!

viruscarnage wrote:

I just realized that's a terrible photoshop job on the floor reflection. Look at how the reflection of the yellow body cuts into the front wheel. fail, FAIL!

I am also tempted to say Motormaster, since Optimus Prime never got any kind of worthy competition in the first 3 movies.

in a scene, leaked on the net, we saw that cab-over truck chasing optimus Prime on a country side road... so I would think this is a Decepticon we are looking at. Motormaster the new leader of the Decepticons? I dig That!

but what if.... what ifffff..... if this would be the movie-verse version of GALVATRON'S ALT MODE??????????????

yup
this is an epic fail
like bumblebee talking through the radio for the 3 first films!

Gee, the camaro is Bumblebee?

Who would'a thunk it

Bay: well, we changed bumblebees grill like 4 times, what else can we do to it? oh! i know! make thee head lights look terrible!

Great, so 'Bee has a speech impediment AND a personality disorder?? Just what kind of joker is coming up with this stuff? At least as the older Camaro he doesn't need to speak. He'll have that beautiful, throaty growl when he's in his alt mode every time he revs his engine and no words will need to be spoken. This...thing, this neutered excuse for a muscle cars descendant...??? No...just... hell no!

Metrosuplex wrote:I miss VW Beetle BB.

I like head lights on it sleack looking,

Vw bee I dont miss either way we be getting crap load bumblebees on shelfs camero, or vw with black stripe down center of car im sick of bees on shelfs but im intersted to see bot modes how new toys will look

dragons wrote:

Metrosuplex wrote:I miss VW Beetle BB.

I like head lights on it sleack looking,

Vw bee I dont miss either way we be getting crap load bumblebees on shelfs camero, or vw with black stripe down center of car im sick of bees on shelfs but im intersted to see bot modes how new toys will look

Exactly, the toys! I'm just saying I would buy a VW Beetle BB. A lot. A LOT. It would be a nice change.

BB has a bit of a split personality - he's small and scrappy in G1, but bad@$$ and muscle car in just about every other incarnation. I'm just calling for the cuter, scrappier VW Bee. (You could even throw it as a joke in the movie - "what the hell happened in 1984? Were you a VW, Bee?!" I don't really care, as long as Hasbro would consider another VW BB! )

I Must be getting old. Willingly deleted my previous less-than-flattering comments regarding this subject. All I have to say now is that I strongly dislike this move. 'Bee already did the whole "upgrade" thing once in this movie franchise. I see no reason to do this gimmick a second time unless for some silly reason they have him start the film out as this new version of the Camaro and then switch to the '69 body style. If that's the case then this is nothing but a very blatant, to the point of being insulting, marketing move. My gut is telling me that this is the case. I understand that the G1 cartoon and especially the 1986 movie, were both nothing more than toy commercials from the POV of the creators but I'll be damned if I'm willing to sit through a 2 1/2 hour long car commercial and right now that is exactly what this is beginning to look like.
I might as well just stay at home and watch episodes of Top Gear back to back and at least get a bit of DECENT humor interjected throughout instead of dealing with the juvenile bathroom humor that has been dispersed throughout this series.

Product placement helps to get these super expensive movies made.

T-Macksimus wrote:I Must be getting old. Willingly deleted my previous less-than-flattering comments regarding this subject. All I have to say now is that I strongly dislike this move. 'Bee already did the whole "upgrade" thing once in this movie franchise. I see no reason to do this gimmick a second time unless for some silly reason they have him start the film out as this new version of the Camaro and then switch to the '69 body style. If that's the case then this is nothing but a very blatant, to the point of being insulting, marketing move. My gut is telling me that this is the case. I understand that the G1 cartoon and especially the 1986 movie, were both nothing more than toy commercials from the POV of the creators but I'll be damned if I'm willing to sit through a 2 1/2 hour long car commercial and right now that is exactly what this is beginning to look like.
I might as well just stay at home and watch episodes of Top Gear back to back and at least get a bit of DECENT humor interjected throughout instead of dealing with the juvenile bathroom humor that has been dispersed throughout this series.

I feel your voice is echoing that of many other collectors out there. I see SOME people defend the movies, but I'm more inclined with your style of thinking.

I'd like to see some polls:

1) How many of you think TF4 will be good and/or improve on past movies?
2) How many of you would call yourselves fans of the Bay-verse/TF movies?
3) What do you think will be the single WORST part of T4?

For #3, I'll start off with the avalanche of BB's clogging store shelves. Close second (for me) would be seeing Bay take another beloved character and ruin the alt mode and personality. Or if he doesn't include Menasor.

T-Macksimus wrote:I might as well just stay at home and watch episodes of Top Gear back to back and at least get a bit of DECENT humor interjected throughout instead of dealing with the juvenile bathroom humor that has been dispersed throughout this series.

Top Gear rocks.

But since this topic is all about the cars, I'll refrain from adding to the movie bashing. AT LEAST we are getting a Lambo, Pagani, and some stylish looking suv/truck things... and a few other sweet rides that aren't all boring American vehicles like the first few movies. The solstice was a dece ride, but was it really worthy of being Jazz? A Porsche was always the true choice, and this is the point T-Macksimus means about the blatant marketing. Sure it might help pay for the movies, but if what you want ultimately leads to a glossy 2 hour showcase of your sponsors, then maybe the film industry isn't the right place for you (Bay).

Opps, movie bash slipped out.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:I might as well just stay at home and watch episodes of Top Gear back to back and at least get a bit of DECENT humor interjected throughout instead of dealing with the juvenile bathroom humor that has been dispersed throughout this series.

Top Gear rocks.

But since this topic is all about the cars, I'll refrain from adding to the movie bashing. AT LEAST we are getting a Lambo, Pagani, and some stylish looking suv/truck things... and a few other sweet rides that aren't all boring American vehicles like the first few movies. The solstice was a dece ride, but was it really worthy of being Jazz? A Porsche was always the true choice, and this is the point T-Macksimus means about the blatant marketing. Sure it might help pay for the movies, but if what you want ultimately leads to a glossy 2 hour showcase of your sponsors, then maybe the film industry isn't the right place for you (Bay).

Opps, movie bash slipped out.

You're assuming that bay has more influence than the producers and the studio on money matters.

Dp

I like that yellow bunblebee, but he was kind of the most important beside optimus in the previous movies, and you think there will be a new autobot that take that lead?

And as an extra for some weird reason while i was watching again the sonic, in that jumping picture on bay page, to my mind came the name cliffjumper!

Cliff as the new guardian?

If that its posible, you think it would be something to praise o to condemn?

njb902 wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:

T-Macksimus wrote:I might as well just stay at home and watch episodes of Top Gear back to back and at least get a bit of DECENT humor interjected throughout instead of dealing with the juvenile bathroom humor that has been dispersed throughout this series.

Top Gear rocks.

But since this topic is all about the cars, I'll refrain from adding to the movie bashing. AT LEAST we are getting a Lambo, Pagani, and some stylish looking suv/truck things... and a few other sweet rides that aren't all boring American vehicles like the first few movies. The solstice was a dece ride, but was it really worthy of being Jazz? A Porsche was always the true choice, and this is the point T-Macksimus means about the blatant marketing. Sure it might help pay for the movies, but if what you want ultimately leads to a glossy 2 hour showcase of your sponsors, then maybe the film industry isn't the right place for you (Bay).

Opps, movie bash slipped out.

You're assuming that bay has more influence than the producers and the studio on money matters.

Your right, my mistake. It's not just Bay's fault for the commerciality of big budget movies.

njb902 wrote:Product placement helps to get these super expensive movies made.

Oh, I know, I won't deny that at all. This just feels like more than simple product placement. This has the stink of yet another corporation having far too much control in an endeavor that it really should have a lesser role in. That's my take on it anyways. Just part of my cynicism. I hate huge corporations and how dependent we have become on them but sadly can't afford to rebel against them either and that fact galls me.

Metrosuplex wrote:I don't really care, as long as Hasbro would consider another VW BB! )

*violent cough* MasterpieceBumblebeebrah *violent cough*

Looks like more of the same old thing to me.

This camaro isn't bad. I'd have to say I like the previous models more. I'm a little disappointed that Bee's main alt mode isn't going to be the 1969 version.

Since Bee reversed his colors in TFP, I like more black on him. It does fit the name Bumblebee more considering they have more black than yellow on them.

But hey it's either that he just wants to roll with the old one for a while then get back up to date.

Or...

There can be a time traveling segment that people have been speculating about. Which I think will be pretty cool.

I don't like it nor do I hate it. I'm more inclined to say I honestly don't care about what BB looks like.
I will say though that i'm not a particular fan of that concept Camero though. Pretty boring looking. It seems a bit "neutered" for a Camero.

That's one good looking car. I like the curves they added to the front panel, it gives the headlights a more sinister look to it. I'm most curious about its robot form.

I'm loving this new Bumblebees l and the new design of the Camaro. It looks so much better than the present one. I like its rounded out edges giving it a more super coupe aero dynamic look. Also its good that they made the front not as bold, so that the driver gets a better veiw of the road. This has to be one of the best looking economy sports cars that I can think of rite now. Except that the headlights are kindof small. Great car. I would buy the repaint that's not another yellow bumblebee.

You know, the whole idea of them changing paint schemes and some changes to their vehicle modes doesn't bother me. They're Transformers, changing is what they do. Just like some one would want to change the style of clothes they wear, or decide to get a tattoo or piercings, so to do they change their appearance in minor or major ways. Bumblebee just happens to dig Camaro's.