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[Razama]

Very nice. i always wanted to do something like this but to lazy to with so much info.

[Sabrblade]

If anyone here knows of someone who still thinks and that either Exodus or WFC is a prequel to G1, the movies, or anything other than TF: Prime, you may show them this list to enlighten them.

[Rodimus the Prime]

W-O-W!
Sabrblade...I'm stunned speechless buddy! This is amazing! I'm still going through it, but I wanted to say congrats!

[Sabrblade]

W-O-W!
Sabrblade...I'm stunned speechless buddy! This is amazing! I'm still going through it, but I wanted to say congrats!

You flatter me, sir.

Keep going, as there's plenty to see.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Okay, this is impressive. A few minor nits here and there with my own interpretations of some of the canon-but still damned impressive.

[Sabrblade]

A few minor nits here and there with my own interpretations of some of the canon-but still damned impressive.

While doing this, I was mostly trying to ignore as many personal views and opinions of the canon and present everything as it's told at face value.

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

A few minor nits here and there with my own interpretations of some of the canon-but still damned impressive.

While doing this, I was mostly trying to ignore as many personal views and opinions of the canon and present everything as it's told at face value.

It's two things.

1. Hound doesn't know about energon cubes... just Hound. It's also the wording he uses. 'Some kind of cube'. It doesn;t suggest to me that the other Autobots don't know or don't use cubes themselves. As for the recharing chamber, it's simply more convenient for them it seems.

Add the visual evidence in War Dawn and energon cubes aren't an exclusively-Decepticon technology.

2. I never got the idea that all Autobts are nameless until named in Autobot Boot Camp in TF:A. I doubt every single Autobot went through it.

[Sabrblade]

1. Hound doesn't know about energon cubes... just Hound. It's also the wording he uses. 'Some kind of cube'. It doesn;t suggest to me that the other Autobots don't know or don't use cubes themselves. As for the recharing chamber, it's simply more convenient for them it seems.

The "Traitor" episode implies that the Autobots don't use Energon Cubes. When Cliffjumper tells Prime and Ratchet that he saw Mirage carrying two Energon Cubes, Ratchet is completely baffled at where and how Mirage could have gotten Energon Cubes from. If the Autobots used them, it would have been simple to assume that Mirage got them from the Autobots' own supply, yet Ratchet is confused as to how Mirage could have acquired Energon Cubes at all. Not simply the fact that he has them, but that he was able to get them from somewhere period.

And why can't the Recharging Chambers be the Autobots' energy recharging source?

Add the visual evidence in War Dawn and energon cubes aren't an exclusively-Decepticon technology.

The dialogue in that episode never once used the word "energon" to refer to that stack of energy. Only the word "energy" was used.

Plus, this isn't the only time that the animators used the look of Energon Cubes for something that wasn't Energon. The Combaticons' Personality Components, for example, were drawn as Energon Cubes when the script for "Starscream's Brigade" called for a different design for them (glowing green cubes with words of warning written on them, and then later colored ebony). Not to mention that, despite looking exactly like Energon Cubes in the episode "Starscream's Brigade", the "B.O.T." episode drew them looking significantly more detailed and gadget-like.

Plus, the opening narration of the first episode says that the planet had been drained of its "once rich resources of energy", not specifically energon. And the glowing orange conductors Wheeljack and Bumblebee steal are said to hold "energy", not "energon". Coupled with Hound's unfamiliarity with energon, we cannot say that Energon had been the sole source of energy used by the Transformers before coming to Earth in the G1 cartoon. If it had been, then it's really stretching to say that Hound never knew the name of the very stuff he had lived on for all of his life.

I've also just started reading the old Marvel G1 comics and this argument is supported there too since ten issues in and not once has the word "energon" ever been brought up by either side. Only the words "energy" and "fuel" have been mentioned (the latter much moreso than the former).

2. I never got the idea that all Autobts are nameless until named in Autobot Boot Camp in TF:A. I doubt every single Autobot went through it.

Eh, I just went with what the show and Almanacs gave us, with them saying that those who attended Autobot Boot Camp got their names there and acted like they hadn't been called much of anything else before. Both the sergeants and the cadets reacted like the cadets were nobodies until they got their names there.

Now it is entirely possible that the cadets went by some previous identifier prior to entering boot camp, but that notion wasn't really explored so I just took what we were given and had to work with it.

[TheDownshift]

[Cyberstrike]

The other is an ancient group of space-faring Transformers (including Jetfire) who served under the Dynasty of Primes.

Is that from the movie comics? Because IIRC in the film Jetfire states that he is (or was) a Decepticon working for the Fallen and he quits because he didn't like their negative attitudes or something like that.