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[Chaoslock]

I do however feel that the last 2 episodes that ended the show were quit religious. Them saying "great primus" was a bit religious, but that didn't bother me as much as Megatron reading out of the Autobot bible.

Well, what'd you expect? The Transformers have their own cosmology. Primus, Unicron, the Matrix, the Thirteen, the Covenant of Primus, the Allspark, the AllSpark, the Well of All Sparks, Sacred Implements, the Oracle, Vector Sigma, "'Til all are one," the "Darkest Hour", etc. etc. all scream "Cybertronian religion".

That's the best damn part of the entire TF universe IMO.

Beast Wars religiousness was OK, but what followed in BM was ridiculous (the whole "I am transformed", magical powers in the end of the show, etc... stuff).

[Wigglez]

To go along with how I said BW was too short in my opinion, There aren't enough BW comics out there either. Like there so any G1 and G2 comics out there, but very few of BW. I guess not alot would be happining in a little time amout that the BW lasted but still. There can't be a story where they landed on an alien planet or a different point of time on Earth? BW is my favorite part of the Cybertron story, and it seems like it was just brushed aside.

[Sabrblade]

To go along with how I said BW was too short in my opinion, There aren't enough BW comics out there either. Like there so any G1 and G2 comics out there, but very few of BW. I guess not alot would be happining in a little time amout that the BW lasted but still. There can't be a story where they landed on an alien planet or a different point of time on Earth?

Let's see, there has been:

• "Optimus Primal vs. Megatron!"
• Critical Mass
• Reaching the Omega Point
• Primeval Dawn
• The Beast Wars: Transformers video game advertising comic
• "Ain't No Rat"
• The Gathering
• The Ascending
• Beast Wars Sourcebook
• "Dawn of Future's Past"
• "The Razor's Edge"

And on the other side of the Pacific:

• Beast Wars II (manga)
• "The Cybertron Brainwashing Operation"
• Beast Wars Neo (manga)
• Beast Wars Metals (manga)
• Beast Wars Reborn

BW is my favorite part of the Cybertron story, and it seems like it was just brushed aside.

The "Cybertron story"?

[Wigglez]

Where'd you get all that from? I've only seen the gathering, the ascendinng, timelines and the source book

[Wigglez]

Where'd you get all that from? I have the gathering, the ascending 2 of 4, timelines and seen the source book. And trust me. I've been looking

[TulioDude]

TF Wiki: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Main_Page
You can find lots of stuff there.

[Sabrblade]

Where'd you get all that from? I have the gathering, the ascending 2 of 4, timelines and seen the source book. And trust me. I've been looking

Like TulioDude said, I looked them all up on TFWiki.

"Optimus Primal vs. Megatron!" was the pack-in comic that came with the bat Optimus Primal and gator Megatron two-pack

Critical Mass was the cover name given to the "Ground Zero" comic story released at BotCon 1997

Reaching the Omega Point was the 3-year-long convention epic released at BotCon from 1998 to 2000.

Primeval Dawn was the accompanying comic series that ran as a second story to the Transformers: The Wreckers comic series released at BotCon and OTFCC from 2001 to 2004. The reason I omitted mention of The Wreckers comic is becuase that one was more like a Beast Machines/Universe comic than a Beast Wars comic.

The Beast Wars: Transformers video game advertising comic was given away in Europe to promote the Beast Wars PC game.

"Ain't No Rat" was a one-off Dreamwave summer special comic from 2004.

The Gathering, the Ascending, and the Sourcebook you seem to know about.

"Dawn of Future's Past" you also seem to know of.

"The Razor's Edge" was an online text story about pre-BW Airazor released in 2007 on the TFCC website for club members


The manga for Beast Wars II, Beast Wars Neo, and Beast Wars Metals were all released in Japan in the the Japanese magazine Comic Bom Bom from 1998 to 2000.

"The Cybertron Brainwashing Operation" (note that, in this case, "Cybertron" = "Maximal") was a short comic story printed as a bonus in the pages of Beast Wars II Strongest Playing Book in 1998.

Beast Wars Reborn was a four-part text story released in the Japanese magazine Figure Ō in 2006

[Name_Violation]

Since we're on TF religion. Who would be the Jim Jones of the TF Universe? (Yes, I realize some of you are too young to get this. Google "Jonestown.") And don't drink the tainted Energon!

Sunstorm?

[Mechanurgist]

I had no idea there was so much fan material out there.

Beast Wars had arguably the most integrated, complex, continuous and mature storyline of all the TF series. It was great in that regard, even if the actual TF designs were a bit wacky (and got wackier with the transmetal thing).

[Sabrblade]

Beast Wars had arguably the most integrated, complex, continuous and mature storyline of all the TF series.

Beast Machines was more mature (and arguably more complex).