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[gothsaurus]

Yeah, thinking about it more... I think ALLL the 3rd party companies need to get it through their heads that the head sculpt is EVERYTHING. If they don't get it right, then they might as well not put out the figure.

It's so crazy that we have all the 4th party companies supplying new heads for all the botched 3rd party jobs. Magnus, Rodimus, Cliffjumper, etc.

I'd say post early as you're designing it and get some feedback. Then go back to tweak based on fan input, if possible.

[rpetras]

I'm with B.

I don't see much point in non-transforming transformers.

I can at least understand the appeal if they are super articulated, very source accurate versions. This appears to be a 5 POA plastic statue.

[F Prime]

I've never understood the obsession with "cartoon-accurate" figures, ESPECIALLY from the G1 line. The toys came first. The cartoons were only created as 22-minute advertisements for the toys. If there was a difference between the G1 toy and the cartoon representation, it was the cartoon that was inaccurate, not the toy.

This is true, but many fans were introduced to the cartoon product first and the toy second.

I don't think people are saying these are "more correct" than the originals, just that they are 'toon accurate and they want that version (maybe instead of the original or along with the original).

[gothsaurus]

Yeah, and I think of ANY figure in history... Ironhide (and Ratchet) being without a head... and being left out of the main line for a good 20 years until Classics rolled out... he's due for some love.

I hope they post some alt-mode pics soon... and that they address the problematic face line/proportions. Head aside, this is truly a good likeness.

[GuyIncognito]

I hope they post some alt-mode pics soon...

I'm pretty sure they don't transform. Unless their alt mode is "robot lying down".

[gothsaurus]

ROTFL. Could be like the original... lying down and gently placing an entire van on their back.

[sleepy86]

They probably intended to show what they were aiming at for their future realeases, becase the pictures shown are from two old, but very well done papercrafts (paper models) of these two characters. These are the links to those models:

Ironhide
http://digilander.libero.it/papermodels/images/papermodels/ironhide/ironhide.htm

Ratchet
http://digilander.libero.it/papermodels/images/papermodels/ratchet/ratchet.htm

The same guy also did awsome models of Soundwave, Frenzy (or Rumble depending on your point of view XD) and Ravage.

[gothsaurus]

Ohh! They're paper. That explains the lines on the face, etc. I take it all back... We'll see what they look like as they progress.

[Flux Convoy]

Well, those are terrible.

Ayup.