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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby synthetik » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:52 pm

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That's abysmal. I know tank alts are fairly rare these days but they shouldn't have gone with this one. It doesn't make any sense. The least they could have done was retool the weapons and remold the armor pieces or just pick someone else.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby ILL-Star » Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:59 pm

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I'm kinda liking this. Characters change over the years. This will do.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby ShadowGinrai » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:01 pm

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Whoa. Caught me with my pants down. Didn't see this mold coming. Kind of a let down that it's only Lord Giga, but I will still enjoy it a lot. :CON:
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby No One » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:27 pm

Noideaforaname wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:That's no homage, that's blasphemy.
Overlord was a:
- baseformer
- triplechanger (quintiple if we count the separate vehicle modes as two and the united vehicle mode as another)
- double powermaster
- duocon
- bada$$

now, that mold is not even close.


Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?


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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby No One » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:29 pm

MR Optimus Prime wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:That's no homage, that's blasphemy.
Overlord was a:
- baseformer
- triplechanger (quintiple if we count the separate vehicle modes as two and the united vehicle mode as another)
- double powermaster
- duocon
- bada$$

now, that mold is not even close.


Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?


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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Court Jester » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:43 pm

Noideaforaname wrote:Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?


PCC with hand picked drones, homage color guide, and remolding in the right places... this given the stipulation of no Cybertron Leader Megs (which is a shame).
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby El Duque » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:48 pm

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My mold choice would have been Universe Silverbolt, no matter what you're only going to homage one of Overlord's vehicle modes so I would have went for the jet. Silverbolt's alt mode and Overlord's jet component already share similar alt modes. In the case of Skyfall below just make the thrusters grey and ditch the red add some purple.


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Their robot modes share some of the same design elements as well. Let's take it from the top:

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  • paint the tips of the two triangular wing tips that rise behind his shoulders purple to homage the OL's purple shoulder cones
  • put the newly molded head on
  • light grey arms with black hands
  • make his two landing gear chest flaps grey just like OL's
  • main torso dark blue
  • each side of the abdomen dark grey to homage his pop out weapons
  • waist black
  • top section of his thighs dark grey
  • thigh area just above the knee dark blue
  • lower legs teal
  • feet purple

Other design similarities: OL carries the forward section of his jet alt mode on his arm, Silverbolt carries the forward section of his jet mode on his back. The little mini-wings on Silverbolt's shoulders resemble OL's open chest flaps. Even the guns somewhat similar, just make Silverbolt's purple with a black missile.

Plus he's an Ultra Class figure that turns into a tall robot, and they've used Ultra Class figures in the boxset before. If I had any photshop skills I would put this all together.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby dinogeist » Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:55 pm

MR Optimus Prime wrote:
MR Optimus Prime wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:
Chaoslock wrote:That's no homage, that's blasphemy.
Overlord was a:
- baseformer
- triplechanger (quintiple if we count the separate vehicle modes as two and the united vehicle mode as another)
- double powermaster
- duocon
- bada$$

now, that mold is not even close.


Is there any mold that would make a decent homage?


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I think everyone was asking the question of a previous TF toy released from under 5 years ago.

Honestly if we've got to dig all the way back to 1987 to get the duocons molds for a botcon 2012 overlord. Then we might as well just dig back to 1988 & get the original masterforce 1988 overlord toy mold,recolor it in slightly more cartoon accurate colors & release it as a botcon 2012 TF toy.

RANDOM SIDE NOTE: I'm hoping this botcon 2012 overlord/gigatron toy generates enough interest to convince hasbro/takara to create a masterpiece or leader sized new mold overlord/gigatron toy. i'm also hoping this botcon 2012 gigatron toy generates enough interest to convince a few 3rd party toy companies to create a proper G-1 styled overlord leader sized toy,with two voyager sized vechicles,a jet & tank merging to form a leader sized robot mode.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby No One » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:05 am

I think everyone was asking the question of a previous TF toy released from under 5 years ago.

Honestly if we've got to dig all the way back to 1987 to get the duocons molds for a botcon 2012 overlord. Then we might as well just dig back to 1988 & get the original masterforce 1988 overlord toy mold,recolor it in slightly more cartoon accurate colors & release it as a botcon 2012 TF toy.

Yeah but I still think it would be a neat CHEAP way to have him. I think the Bludgeon mold is still okay though.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby No One » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:12 am

[quote="El Duque"]My mold choice would have been Universe Silverbolt, no matter what you're only going to homage one of Overlord's vehicle modes so I would have went for the jet. Silverbolt's alt mode and Overlord's jet component already share similar alt modes. In the case of Skyfall below just make the thrusters grey and ditch the red add some purple.

Yeah and it's JUST enough of a brick to hail back to G1. Maybe some paint chest apps to homage Giga and Mega.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby NOS » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:41 am

*sigh* No...

Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.

Triple changer, menacing robot mode...

Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby El Duque » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:46 am

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NOS wrote:*sigh* No...

Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.

Triple changer, menacing robot mode...

Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.


That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Thrust222 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:47 am

I think its pretty good. Maybe some other molds would have been good also but the more I look at the bludgeon/giga figure the more I like it.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby NOS » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:50 am

El Duque wrote:
NOS wrote:*sigh* No...

Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.

Triple changer, menacing robot mode...

Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.


That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.


R.i.D Megatron was roughly the same size and they remolded him a head for Deathsaurus. I suppose the rest of the figures were all scout size though for the set...

Oh well, Cybertron Megatron would have still been my choice.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Blurrz » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:56 am

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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby El Duque » Wed Dec 28, 2011 12:59 am

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NOS wrote:
El Duque wrote:
NOS wrote:*sigh* No...

Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.

Triple changer, menacing robot mode...

Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.


That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.


R.i.D Megatron was roughly the same size and they remolded him a head for Deathsaurus. I suppose the rest of the figures were all scout size though for the set...

Oh well, Cybertron Megatron would have still been my choice.


I have to disagree about the size. I have both figure and Cybertron Megatron is significantly larger than BotCon Deathsaurus.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby RhA » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:29 am

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El Duque wrote:
NOS wrote:
El Duque wrote:
NOS wrote:*sigh* No...

Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.

Triple changer, menacing robot mode...

Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.


That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.


R.i.D Megatron was roughly the same size and they remolded him a head for Deathsaurus. I suppose the rest of the figures were all scout size though for the set...

Oh well, Cybertron Megatron would have still been my choice.


I have to disagree about the size. I have both figure and Cybertron Megatron is significantly larger than BotCon Deathsaurus.


:lol: EXTREMELY roughly.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Nekoman » Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:52 am

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Meh, yuck, blah. This is the absolute last figure I would've hoped they'd use for Overlord. I didn't have high expectations for this one though, but honestly. It works in vehicle mode only.

I feel like the TFC does this a lot, aim too high and end up producing a figure that doesn't live up to it's namesake. The samurai motif just doesn't blend with this character. The head sculpt looks decent at best too.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby C - 310 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:10 am

To be honest I was expecting they would use Energon's Megatron mold with a remold head, but I guess they were not using any molds from the Unicron trilogy.

I really feels like they dump down overlord ALOT in order to 'fit' it to this mode. He wasn't even a "melee" character originally. Also the head looks like a bootlegger from China molded it.

C'mon hasbro, for 3 or 4 times it's retail price, you can't make a new mold for once for exclusive to be worth it?
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby NOS » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:21 am

RhA wrote:
El Duque wrote:
NOS wrote:
El Duque wrote:
NOS wrote:*sigh* No...

Should have went with Cybertron Megatron mold.

Triple changer, menacing robot mode...

Might not have been spot on accurate, the tank mode being replaced with his car mode, but would have been better then this.


That would be cool, but it would never happen due to it's size.


R.i.D Megatron was roughly the same size and they remolded him a head for Deathsaurus. I suppose the rest of the figures were all scout size though for the set...

Oh well, Cybertron Megatron would have still been my choice.


I have to disagree about the size. I have both figure and Cybertron Megatron is significantly larger than BotCon Deathsaurus.


:lol: EXTREMELY roughly.


Never actually owned the figure so I suppose my estimations must be pretty far off. Still, that's the only current mold I could see that would do Overlord / Gigatron any justice.

Guess I'll keep dreaming. ^^;
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby scypris115 » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:41 am

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Wow... that figure sucks.. Id buy that piece of crap mold for 5 bucks.. They can keep the change too../:) looks more like an autobot..
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Blurrz » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:54 am

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scypris115 wrote:Wow... that figure sucks.. Id buy that piece of crap mold for 5 bucks.. They can keep the change too../:) looks more like an autobot..


Bludgeon was one of the best figures of 2010, one of the best designed not-in-the-movie movie characters, one of the best homages ever made, and a marvel in Transformers engineering. So, $5? Well, can't expect much when your favorite toy is something that hasn't even been released yet.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Matrix_Holder » Wed Dec 28, 2011 2:59 am

The head mold looks like the one from "the last stand of the wreckers" series. I would not have picked Bludgeon for "Gigatron"...looks nothing like him., Tidal Wave would have been the perfect choice for this character. they should have done a survey so they could get an idea what the collectors think. I don't like the whole Ultra Magnus Prime repaint...or that Soundwave from the Universe Ironhide ..a terrible mold that should not be repainted. I may buy the Metalhawk and Treadshot from a buddy that is buying multiple sets to resell, if they are good.
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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Blurrz » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:03 am

Motto: "scream drive faster"
Weapon: Electro-Laser Cannon
Matrix_Holder wrote: Tidal Wave would have been the perfect choice for this character.


Indeed;

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Re: 1st Botcon 2012 exclusive revealed: Gigatron

Postby Dead Metal » Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:04 am

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El Duque wrote:My mold choice would have been Universe Silverbolt, no matter what you're only going to homage one of Overlord's vehicle modes so I would have went for the jet. Silverbolt's alt mode and Overlord's jet component already share similar alt modes. In the case of Skyfall below just make the thrusters grey and ditch the red add some purple.


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Their robot modes share some of the same design elements as well. Let's take it from the top:

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  • paint the tips of the two triangular wing tips that rise behind his shoulders purple to homage the OL's purple shoulder cones
  • put the newly molded head on
  • light grey arms with black hands
  • make his two landing gear chest flaps grey just like OL's
  • main torso dark blue
  • each side of the abdomen dark grey to homage his pop out weapons
  • waist black
  • top section of his thighs dark grey
  • thigh area just above the knee dark blue
  • lower legs teal
  • feet purple

Other design similarities: OL carries the forward section of his jet alt mode on his arm, Silverbolt carries the forward section of his jet mode on his back. The little mini-wings on Silverbolt's shoulders resemble OL's open chest flaps. Even the guns somewhat similar, just make Silverbolt's purple with a black missile.

Plus he's an Ultra Class figure that turns into a tall robot, and they've used Ultra Class figures in the boxset before. If I had any photshop skills I would put this all together.

I second this, but would add a little more.
Remold the figure slightly so that you can remove the robot from the plane (which works, the robot-mode is literately screwed onto the plane) and then give him a few tank treads and attach the gun as a turret for a kinda tank mode.
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