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Re: SOPA and PIPA: the bills which could end Seibertron.com, your favorite websites, and the Internet!

Postby Vicalliose » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:18 pm

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Tidalwavex wrote:Personally from my perspective all these laws & regulations exist to control/degrade the lower & middle class.

WHAT UPSETS ME THE MOST,when these laws & regulations are created. The rich & powerful are exempt from following them.

if your gonna create new laws & new regulations then EVERYONE should follow them not just some.

I think with the downward spiral economy getting worser & worser every year. the big corporations are getting more greedy & trying to steal every penny away from the hard working people they can.

instead of the big corporations trying to help out the working man. their doing the oppossite & making it worse for them during this extremly bad downward spiral economy.

From my persective capitalism is worse than communism.

From my perspective, all things can easily be corrupted.

Our government has played a big part in destroying capitalism as well as the young college educated fools who's minds are not set in reality and only know how to make money the wrong way. The biggest problem today? Lawyers. As time goes on they have to come up with new ways to put money in their pockets, as more and more people want to become lawyers every year.

Certain corporations have dropped out of backing this these bills. It's mostly backed by Hollywood as a whole. And in my opinion, I've always considered Hollywood one of the greatest evils on the face of the Earth. It's like they exist purely to generate hate and animosity among everyone.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA: the bills which could end Seibertron.com, your favorite websites, and the Internet!

Postby Joetx » Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:57 pm

Vicalliose wrote:From my perspective, all things can easily be corrupted.

Our government has played a big part in destroying capitalism as well as the young college educated fools who's minds are not set in reality and only know how to make money the wrong way. The biggest problem today? Lawyers. As time goes on they have to come up with new ways to put money in their pockets, as more and more people want to become lawyers every year.

Certain corporations have dropped out of backing this these bills. It's mostly backed by Hollywood as a whole. And in my opinion, I've always considered Hollywood one of the greatest evils on the face of the Earth. It's like they exist purely to generate hate and animosity among everyone.


This is easily the most ignorant post I've read on a TFs fan site, placing the blame on the wrong people. Lawyers? Hollywood? What, did you just get out of a tea party meeting?

Basically, our political system is corrupt b/c we've allowed, through our collective ignorance, the wealthy & "people" such as corporations (especially the financial, petroleum, & health care-related industries) to, in effect, bribe the politicians of both parties into drafting & passing laws that benefit the wealthy & corporations, but are a detriment to the vast majority of us.

And Ron Paul would give them even greater freedom to do whatever the hell they wanted.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA: the bills which could end Seibertron.com, your favorite websites, and the Internet!

Postby Psychout » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:14 pm

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Discuss your semantics elsewhere.

The reasons behind, and who supports, this bill are completely irellevant unless it's regarding how to stop it, which is far more important.
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Postby Rated X » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:18 pm

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I think enacting this law could bankrupt the court systems. Everytime some moron tries to press charges for some petty s**t, somebody has to foot the bill to prosecute you and take all the steps to lock you up or fine you. If this law presents such a "grey area" that anyone can be held accountable for almost anything, the waiting list for a case could be years. That is if enough people with no lives come foward to try to "cash in" or "punish" people for using their stuff on the internet. The whole concept only works in theory, not in reality. Like I said before, somebodys gotta foot the bill to enforce all this, or it's just rubbish. Kind of like wasting man-power enforcing jay-walking laws in a city overan with gangs and drug dealers.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA: the bills which could end Seibertron.com, your favorite websites, and the Internet!

Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:22 pm

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Vicalliose wrote:Our government has played a big part in destroying capitalism


I'm assuming you don't live in America, then? For all this straw-man talk about "corporations" no one has ever once said "corporations" hate people spending money on them. And spending money is the main point of capitalism.

Also this is from a month ago.

Lamar’s amendments also clarify that sites ending in .com, .org, and .net are not covered by the bill. Only foreign sites fall under SOPA’s wrath.


I don't know if the amendment passed or what, but if it did SOPA's threat level dropped like a rock. It still needs to be shot down and shot down hard, though.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA: the bills which could end Seibertron.com, your favorite websites, and the Internet!

Postby Stormrider » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:31 pm

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I am griefed by the amount of regulations that this government has strangled upon our country in such a short time, and many of them passed quielty behind closed doors. Thank you for bringing these bills to light. Although I find them nearly impossible for the government to regulate, I think their effect will have a huge impact. We are one step away from being a neutered America.
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Postby metaphorge » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:38 pm

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Thank you so much for publishing this. I was planning to write in and request that such an article be created for precisely the reasons you cite.
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Postby bionic_radical » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:39 pm

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Postby Shadowman » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:48 pm

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Stormrider wrote:Thank you for bringing these bills to light.


metaphorge wrote:Thank you so much for publishing this. I was planning to write in and request that such an article be created for precisely the reasons you cite.


You guys know this news post is actually two months late to the party, right? We've known about these bills since November.
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Re: SOPA and PIPA: the bills which could end Seibertron.com, your favorite websites, and the Internet!

Postby bionic_radical » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:55 pm

Psychout wrote:Discuss your semantics elsewhere.

The reasons behind, and who supports, this bill are completely irellevant unless it's regarding how to stop it, which is far more important.


And if it's going to be an open forum, let's treat it as such. To censor a post when the topic at hand is essentially, the freedom of exchanging information? One set of standards will do just fine.
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