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[T-Macksimus]

This isn't crossing the line unless Hasbro starts throwing their weight around at all the other conventions. It's a Hasbro event, they call the shots, the rules are spelled out and any of you who think the 3rd party guys aren't messing with Hasbros IP are delusional. It's ALL their stuff on a basic level, theirs and Takaras. Without their stuff as a basis there would be no need for "upgrades", "improvements" or whatever else we get from our 3rd party guys that vastly improves our collections. Don't play dumb folks, it's not very becoming. We just accept it and move on. I happen to love the 3rd party stuff myself and I would hate to see it go away, and that's not a fear of mine. It won't go away. We just won't see it at BotCon. This may be the biggest show but it's not the only show out there and Hasbro can't say sh** or confiscate anything at the other shows. BotCon is "their house" and you don't screw with someone in their own house, at least not if you have an ounce of respect or common sense which, sadly, means that a portion of our fan base is in trouble.

[CrimsonPrime]

Damn I cant even read half the comments due to all BS saying 3rd party is better...I'm sorry but what? HasTak has produced ALOT more awesome toys than ALL 3rd party toys combine. Seriously just cause they produce some crappy toys in PRID line doesnt mean they are getting worse. Everyone have their downfall once in awhile. Oh and to those who wonder what awesome toys? Well here's some :-

MP-10 Optimus Prime
Leader movieverse Optimus Prime
Unicron
FE Voyager Optimus
FE Voyager Bulkhead
FE Deluxe Cliffjumper
WFC Deluxe Optimus
WFC Deluxe Megatron

I can name more but you get what I'm trying to say. Stop saying BS like "3rd party is so much better" and so on. Jesus christ without HasTak you guys wont even have those memorable 1980s toys. Oh and btw HasTak have every rights to ban 3rd party products based on TF. Stop whining about them trying to ban the 3rd party products. If it were up to me I wish ALL 3rd party toys got banned to the point selling them can get you arrested.

PS : Dont expect me to reply..I wont be checking this topic ever again.

[Rated X]

Sadly, this will be my last year at Botcon. Id rather spend extra money on aftermarket e-bay prices than on a plane ticket and hotel to see a room full of Hasbro crap. I’m sure Funpub just put the nail in their own coffin. Selling dealers tickets months ago and announcing this at the last minute is a really low blow. They should offer a full refund to any dealers who want to opt out. With a little luck, maybe a dealer will bring a lawsuit on the basis that this is “Bot”con and the contract they agreed to upon purchasing a dealers ticket did not prohibit the sale of non-Hasbro “bots”. And yes, I saw the dealer contract that stated "any item". But you would be surprised what lawyers these days can come up with. Hell, O.J. walked free !!! Any dealers on this site, I encourage you to print out the contract and have your attorney review it and expose the loop holes. Im sure theres a smoking gun in there somewhere. It would be nice to see Hasbro’s own b**ch ass legal tactics used against them. Watch how quick Hasbro backs down and flip flops faster than you can say “Texas Republican”.

The good news is there will be plenty of 3rd party stuff for sale in hotel rooms and parking lots after 430 PM. If you want some of that “plastic crack” then just holla at the dope man slangin on the corner.



I always felt the term “intellectual property” was one big joke. It is a b**ch made argument made by men that sport a mangina. Hasbro really put on their thongs and high heels this year. Well Im sure all the my little pony fans are happy.

It wont be long before a 3rd party convention comes into being. Maybe to add insult to injury they can ban the sale of Hasbro products. I know I would go. Hold it in Cancun so Hasbro cant even interfere and we can indulge in other vices too.

[combiner711]

HasTak needs to think a way how to keep the fans from not buying/supporting the 3rd party products; and the easiest and best solution for that is to stop making different variations of bumblebee! start making what fans really like! Common HasTak start reading the forum here in seibetron if you want to know what I mean!

[PrfktTear]

I just composed a reply but it got lost. I'll just say this... its about damn time HasTak took a stance on this stuff.

[Mkall]

Hasbro really needs a Transformers line aimed at the adult collector - it's the niche the 3rd Parties are filling.

They had a good chance to do something different with Alternators by offering up parts to help customise them.

Personally I found Alternators to be too niche. I think what Hasbro could do would be to release some figures in the 40-50 dollar range of characters that would appeal ONLY to collectors, have a ton of accessories, and would fit well in our Classics line. Overlord and Star Saber for example.

Yeah, I know I'm dreaming - but whatev

[Burn]

HasTak needs to think a way how to keep the fans from not buying/supporting the 3rd party products; and the easiest and best solution for that is to stop making different variations of bumblebee! start making what fans really like! Common HasTak start reading the forum here in seibetron if you want to know what I mean!

It's not about what fans want, it's what makes them money.

I think what Hasbro could do would be to release some figures in the 40-50 dollar range of characters that would appeal ONLY to collectors, have a ton of accessories, and would fit well in our Classics line. Overlord and Star Saber for example.

Yeah, I know I'm dreaming - but whatev

Yeah, again, they'd be targeting a smaller market. Really Hasbro AU tried it when they imported Takara's MP-02 for Target. A few of him sold, but in the end a lot got marked down. Admittedly that was when the dollar was low and he was selling for over $100AU.

Which, knowing how Hasbro AU works, your figure of $40-$50 would still be about $100AU even with our dollar up.

In that regards, Hasbro needs to look at their pricing structure, not just what the fans want.

[Court Jester]

[Dead Metal]

So what?

3rd Party stuff was banned by Hasbro UK from Auto Assembly for the past 2 years, it was still sold by dealers.

Adding to that, all this means is that you won't be buying 3rd Party stuff in BotCons's dealer room, where Hasbro reigns supreme.
You'll still get it in stores and on-line stores.

Also both sides in this argument are delusional.

both, Hasbro/Tak and 3rd Party companies rip off other people's ip and designs, they both make awesome stuff and they both make shite.

I'm happy with my mixed collection of 3rd Party, Hasbro and Takara products.

Never understood why with all these 3rd party companies out there and all their rabid supporters who are so anti-Hasbro that they've never bothered to develop their own universe, their own characters, something that will set them completely apart from Hasbro and Transformers.

Oh wait, that would require originality, and it's so much easier to rip off an existing character that someone else owns.

Mecha Workshop is an exciting new line of transforming robots made by none other than fan favorite, Don Figueroa! It involves unique, interesting characters that are sure to be followed by original content! I've provided a link for you to check out!

http://mecha-workshop.deviantart.com/

Also, a facebook page!!

https://www.facebook.com/Armarauders

You should check them out, and please take your time, in hopes that we don't have to read any more of the baiting statements you provide.

Those aren't 3rd Party figures, that is an all new, original line of transforming robots, it's a new IP.

[RhA]

Hilarious how people complain about prices for new and orginal characters going up in recent times (OMG I WON'T PAAAAAY MOOOORE THEN 12$ FOOOOR AAAA DELUUUUXE RIPOOOOOFFFFSS)and when a 3rd party releases something that looks like somthing you already own for 79.99$ they are your god and savior.

Ban it.