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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby whacko » Sat May 12, 2012 8:14 pm

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Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby Seibertron » Sat May 12, 2012 10:03 pm

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whacko wrote:Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.


Not to mention the bulging eyes. I'm surprised more people aren't bitching about that. I'm really anal about their faces. It's my thing. Soundwave is my favorite character. Music Label Soundwave is pretty awesome. Shattered Glass Soundwave is a very bad implementation and mold choice.

I really hope Shattered Glass can be put to bed. I can't get over how many of you got suckered into the most lame and easy repaint excuse storyline ever. Shattered Glass makes the 2003/2004 Universe storyline seem awesome. It was OK for the 2008 BotCon exclusive set. A one time deal. If you don't like it ... that's OK. Move on to the next thing. But to continue to drag it on is just too much. Optimus Prime is not evil. Megatron is not heroic.

Soundwave having a neon/lime green bandanna is about as bad as it should get. Enough's enough. It was fun for a one year thing, but it got really old as soon as BotCon 2008 ended.
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby El Duque » Sat May 12, 2012 11:34 pm

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Why the Hell didn't they use RtS Perceptor for SG Soundwave. SUV alt mode, check. Opening chest, check. Shoulder cannon, check.
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby Seibertron » Sun May 13, 2012 12:13 am

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El Duque wrote:Why the Hell didn't they use RtS Perceptor for SG Soundwave. SUV alt mode, check. Opening chest, check. Shoulder cannon, check.



Alt mode that doesn't look like crap? check. Toy that doesn't look like crap in robot mode or vehicle mode? Check!

I swear this is an instance of Hasbro saying ... "hey, we have this mold that sucks, which saw limited production runs, do something with this so that this mold can be more profitable!"
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby Mkall » Sun May 13, 2012 2:35 am

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El Duque wrote:Why the Hell didn't they use RtS Perceptor for SG Soundwave. SUV alt mode, check. Opening chest, check. Shoulder cannon, check.

I think that the Club portrayed SG Soundwave in this form before RTS Perceptor was revieled. Thus they (and we) are kinda stuck with it.
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby Dead Metal » Sun May 13, 2012 3:10 am

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Mkall wrote:
El Duque wrote:Why the Hell didn't they use RtS Perceptor for SG Soundwave. SUV alt mode, check. Opening chest, check. Shoulder cannon, check.

I think that the Club portrayed SG Soundwave in this form before RTS Perceptor was revieled. Thus they (and we) are kinda stuck with it.

They did, remember back when he got that body Universe 2.0 was still around, RTS came about 3 years later.
Complaining about him being based off of the mold that's iconic for him is kind alike complaining about Classics Thundercracker being based of of Classics Starscream instead of a mold that hadn't existed at the time the character was originally created.

It's no secret that I think FunPub sucks at head moulds, but you gotta admit the Soundwave head is waaay better than the shitty Ironhide head they made for Descent into Evil, but then again G1 Ironhide's head is better than that POS.

Seibertron wrote:I really hope Shattered Glass can be put to bed. I can't get over how many of you got suckered into the most lame and easy repaint excuse storyline ever. Shattered Glass makes the 2003/2004 Universe storyline seem awesome. It was OK for the 2008 BotCon exclusive set. A one time deal. If you don't like it ... that's OK. Move on to the next thing. But to continue to drag it on is just too much. Optimus Prime is not evil. Megatron is not heroic.

Soundwave having a neon/lime green bandanna is about as bad as it should get. Enough's enough. It was fun for a one year thing, but it got really old as soon as BotCon 2008 ended.

Shattered Glass Optimus Prime is evil, and it's been going on for so long due to the fact that it's popular, no other BotCon set has sold out as fast as the original SG set, and that was supposed to be a one off, but the fans wanted more.
Alternate realities are popular and twisted ones are even more popular.
That's just how it works, if companies didn't bring out more product that was popular and only thought of stuff as one offs never to be revisited again, Transformers would have stopped back in 84.
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Sun May 13, 2012 4:42 am

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whacko wrote:Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.


Not to mention the bulging eyes. I'm surprised more people aren't bitching about that. I'm really anal about their faces. It's my thing. Soundwave is my favorite character. Music Label Soundwave is pretty awesome. Shattered Glass Soundwave is a very bad implementation and mold choice.


Well, it was a forced choice, as stated before and you all know it:

SG Soundwave in "The Desert Heat" (2009) on TFWiki

Years before RTS was even conceived, let alone Perceptor.

I really hope Shattered Glass can be put to bed. I can't get over how many of you got suckered into the most lame and easy repaint excuse storyline ever. Shattered Glass makes the 2003/2004 Universe storyline seem awesome. It was OK for the 2008 BotCon exclusive set. A one time deal. If you don't like it ... that's OK. Move on to the next thing. But to continue to drag it on is just too much. Optimus Prime is not evil. Megatron is not heroic.


Like it or not, SG is here to stay because it's a major part of the Timelines storyline now, and with the open ending expect it to last another year. Yes, I too am a sucker as you put it for repaints, but if it has a link to an older source or an obscure source and if the story behind the character appeals to me (right now Wreck-Gar and his Junkion are guilty of that. Resistance is futile), well...
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby Stormrider » Sun May 13, 2012 1:44 pm

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whacko wrote:Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.


Not to mention the bulging eyes. I'm surprised more people aren't bitching about that. I'm really anal about their faces. It's my thing. Soundwave is my favorite character. Music Label Soundwave is pretty awesome. Shattered Glass Soundwave is a very bad implementation and mold choice.

I really hope Shattered Glass can be put to bed. I can't get over how many of you got suckered into the most lame and easy repaint excuse storyline ever. Shattered Glass makes the 2003/2004 Universe storyline seem awesome. It was OK for the 2008 BotCon exclusive set. A one time deal. If you don't like it ... that's OK. Move on to the next thing. But to continue to drag it on is just too much. Optimus Prime is not evil. Megatron is not heroic.

Soundwave having a neon/lime green bandanna is about as bad as it should get. Enough's enough. It was fun for a one year thing, but it got really old as soon as BotCon 2008 ended.


I agree that SG is one of the weakest storylines in the Transformers universe. It is a lazy way to do repaints. An alternate universe with same characters but opposite in personal is so cliched. The only thing missing are the "evil goatees". I too would wish they would get SG.
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby Mkall » Sun May 13, 2012 2:31 pm

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Stormrider wrote:I agree that SG is one of the weakest storylines in the Transformers universe. It is a lazy way to do repaints. An alternate universe with same characters but opposite in personal is so cliched. The only thing missing are the "evil goatees". I too would wish they would get SG.

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But yeah, I'll be happy to not see SG figures again. Maybe an occasional one in their Figure Subscription Service, but that's really it.
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Re: New BotCon 2012 Galleries: Gigatron, Metalhawk, Treadshot, Ultra Magnus, Soundwave and Turbo Tracks

Postby whacko » Sun May 13, 2012 3:31 pm

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
whacko wrote:Soundwave is embarrassingly bad. I mean he looks like a cheap KO. Happymeal Transformers have had better paint.


Not to mention the bulging eyes. I'm surprised more people aren't bitching about that. I'm really anal about their faces. It's my thing. Soundwave is my favorite character. Music Label Soundwave is pretty awesome. Shattered Glass Soundwave is a very bad implementation and mold choice.


Well, it was a forced choice, as stated before and you all know it:

SG Soundwave in "The Desert Heat" (2009) on TFWiki

Years before RTS was even conceived, let alone Perceptor.




That might excuse the choice of mold, but it doesn't excuse the piss-poor head sculpt nor the even worse paint job. I don't even mind that mold but the execution is insulting given the price they charge for these figures.
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