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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Deruji » Sun May 27, 2012 9:20 am

Hotrodimust wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
orangeitis wrote:
Trikeboy wrote:I would not want a Breakdown toy from this mould. His bit mode is completely different. Masterpiece is about G1 accuracy. Breakdown doesn't look anything like Sideswipe.
Mot to mention that G1 Sideswipe, y'know... don't have a limb mode.

breakdown99 wrote:Don't forget my namesake and his G2 version. Maybe even a Punch/Counterpunch? (obviously modifications will up the price). Wow, he could even top Starscream in MP repaint stakes.
Any other Lambo's in Transformerland? I'm sure there was a Lambo micromaster somewhere...[/color]
...I give up. :BANG_HEAD:


For the last time:

Masterpiece does not follow Classics logic when it comes to repaints or retools! So stop using the Universe Sideswipe mold as an example for potential repaints.

Maybe we can get a prowl repaint from mp-12 and a silver streak lol


And then a Bumblebee repaint? ><
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Dorkimus » Sun May 27, 2012 9:53 am

99,95$...well I'm glad its not 100$ :grin:

They can make as many Sideswipe clones as they like as long as I get my Soundwave in time, because that is a good news. Finally! Actually megatron remake would also be nice, since that current version sucks big time.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Hotrodimust » Sun May 27, 2012 10:00 am

Deruji wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
orangeitis wrote:
Trikeboy wrote:I would not want a Breakdown toy from this mould. His bit mode is completely different. Masterpiece is about G1 accuracy. Breakdown doesn't look anything like Sideswipe.
Mot to mention that G1 Sideswipe, y'know... don't have a limb mode.

breakdown99 wrote:Don't forget my namesake and his G2 version. Maybe even a Punch/Counterpunch? (obviously modifications will up the price). Wow, he could even top Starscream in MP repaint stakes.
Any other Lambo's in Transformerland? I'm sure there was a Lambo micromaster somewhere...[/color]
...I give up. :BANG_HEAD:


For the last time:

Masterpiece does not follow Classics logic when it comes to repaints or retools! So stop using the Universe Sideswipe mold as an example for potential repaints.

Maybe we can get a prowl repaint from mp-12 and a silver streak lol


And then a Bumblebee repaint? ><

But seriously they need to do an mp bee but if they are doing the correct scale no he's comma be a deluxe size so they should just make a really good generations figures maybe a sub line like generations mp or something idk just an idea please no crazy debates lol
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby orangeitis » Sun May 27, 2012 10:03 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:For the last time:

Masterpiece does not follow Classics logic when it comes to repaints or retools! So stop using the Universe Sideswipe mold as an example for potential repaints.
Exactly. >:oP
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby dinojack86 » Sun May 27, 2012 10:04 am

Man I checked this thread again to find to see what others were saying about MP Soundwave and all I find are people complaining about Sideswipe and whether or not there will be a Sunstreaker or whoever. I mean come on- MP SOUNDWAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :KREMZEEK:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Sun May 27, 2012 10:06 am

Deruji wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
orangeitis wrote:
Trikeboy wrote:I would not want a Breakdown toy from this mould. His bit mode is completely different. Masterpiece is about G1 accuracy. Breakdown doesn't look anything like Sideswipe.
Mot to mention that G1 Sideswipe, y'know... don't have a limb mode.

breakdown99 wrote:Don't forget my namesake and his G2 version. Maybe even a Punch/Counterpunch? (obviously modifications will up the price). Wow, he could even top Starscream in MP repaint stakes.
Any other Lambo's in Transformerland? I'm sure there was a Lambo micromaster somewhere...[/color]
...I give up. :BANG_HEAD:


For the last time:

Masterpiece does not follow Classics logic when it comes to repaints or retools! So stop using the Universe Sideswipe mold as an example for potential repaints.

Maybe we can get a prowl repaint from mp-12 and a silver streak lol


And then a Bumblebee repaint? ><

Don't forget, you can redeco the Sunstreaker mods for the figure into Deadend! Alternators did that.

Then all we need are new heads and you can redeco the mold into every single Autobot car.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby orangeitis » Sun May 27, 2012 10:25 am

dinojack86 wrote:Man I checked this thread again to find to see what others were saying about MP Soundwave and all I find are people complaining about Sideswipe and whether or not there will be a Sunstreaker or whoever. I mean come on- MP SOUNDWAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :KREMZEEK:
I'm not getting excited until there are pics of his cassettes.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Dead Metal » Sun May 27, 2012 10:55 am

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It would be a total let-down if MP Soundwave was engineered to fit G1 Cassettes and then they would only reissue the G1 versions instead of making new ones.
God I hope not.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby zodconvoy » Sun May 27, 2012 11:02 am

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So if the cassettes are being released in a separate set later we can all agree that Soundwave will come with Buzzsaw, right?

And that there will probably be a Marvel Comic accurate purple Soundwave. Possibly with a mouth!
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Dead Metal » Sun May 27, 2012 11:07 am

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zodconvoy wrote:So if the cassettes are being released in a separate set later we can all agree that Soundwave will come with Buzzsaw, right?

And that there will probably be a Marvel Comic accurate purple Soundwave. Possibly with a mouth!

Ala King Grimlock.
Would make sense, and of course MP 13-B Soundblaster, or New Soundwave with Laserbeak. I do hope he comes with a few cassettes though and not just one.
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Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?

Blurrz wrote:10/10

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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Deruji » Sun May 27, 2012 11:58 am

Dead Metal wrote:
zodconvoy wrote:So if the cassettes are being released in a separate set later we can all agree that Soundwave will come with Buzzsaw, right?

And that there will probably be a Marvel Comic accurate purple Soundwave. Possibly with a mouth!

Ala King Grimlock.
Would make sense, and of course MP 13-B Soundblaster, or New Soundwave with Laserbeak. I do hope he comes with a few cassettes though and not just one.


Keeping in line with him being cartoon accurate(for the first season at least), I'd like to see him come with Rumble, Laserbeak and Ravage.
As extras they could add in an Energon Cube or two, maybe a small version of him and interchangeable schematics for his chest.
Maybe they'll add changeable eye-color as a gimick.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby datguy86 » Sun May 27, 2012 4:21 pm

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While a Soundblaster repaint is imminent, do you think there will be a retool for Blaster, or an all-new mold? IIRC, the transformations are the same save the handle.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Stormrider » Sun May 27, 2012 6:16 pm

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I am pleased to hear these MP announcements. Sound like great addtioins.

Dead Metal wrote:It would be a total let-down if MP Soundwave was engineered to fit G1 Cassettes and then they would only reissue the G1 versions instead of making new ones.
God I hope not.



Yeah, that would sux.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby fenrir72 » Sun May 27, 2012 7:12 pm

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Or maybe he'll come with a scout cassette?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby orangeitis » Sun May 27, 2012 7:13 pm

datguy86 wrote:While a Soundblaster repaint is imminent, do you think there will be a retool for Blaster, or an all-new mold? IIRC, the transformations are the same save the handle.
Read earlier pages of this thread. >:oP
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Road Turtle » Sun May 27, 2012 7:48 pm

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Is it a bad thing if you can win at "Name That Pokemon" with G1 silhouettes? I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one who screamed "That's Soundwave!".

That's nice that they're starting to make Masterpiece versions of characters I already collected as Binaltechs/Alternators. I can see why they would make Soundwave and inevitably Soudblaster. Hopefully he'll come with a Cassetta-Con and not pull a MP-01 Optimus with no trailer, or a MP-04 with no Roller.

But really, Sideswipe and paranoid schizo Red Alert? I mean yeah, Sideswipe was rather iconic during the 80's , and there's a certain dark charm to owning a mentally ill Autobot driven mad by millions of years of endless war...but, well, I'll just say it....SKYFIRE. Not Jetfire, SKY-fire. When will they finally make MP Skyfire? If they make him cartoon accurate they shouldn't run into any issues with Bandai/Kaiyodo.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby orangeitis » Sun May 27, 2012 8:30 pm

Road Turtle wrote:Is it a bad thing if you can win at "Name That Pokemon" with G1 silhouettes? I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one who screamed "That's Soundwave!".
Damn you, I'm now picturing Soundwave saying only his name now. :HEADHURTS:

Also, I heard that Skyfire was one of those names that Hasbro had to use cause they couldn't use the intended name for copyright reasons. In this case, they wanted to use Jetfire, but only could after G1 was well over. Could anyone confirm?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby bdougwrx » Sun May 27, 2012 9:04 pm

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Road Turtle wrote:Also, I heard that Skyfire was one of those names that Hasbro had to use cause they couldn't use the intended name for copyright reasons. In this case, they wanted to use Jetfire, but only could after G1 was well over. Could anyone confirm?


The Skyfire/Jetfire thing is complicated, here is the Wiki on it:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jetfire
The first two years of Transformers toys were figures taken from older Japanese toylines, primarily Takara's Diaclone and Microman lines. 1985, however, saw several figures reused from lines created by Takatoku Toys, of which Jetfire was one - that of the VF-1S Super Valkyrie Fighter from the Macross series. This figure was one the most articulated of the early Transformer toys, featuring fully poseable shoulder, hip, elbow and knee joints, and even poseable sacroiliac joints. The instruction manual for the toy even included the Gerwalk mode designed for the Macross version of the toy, which was used in that animated series, and seen briefly in the Transformers season 2 episode "The Day of the Machines".

Problems over the Jetfire toy began when Bandai absorbed Takatoku Toys, and Macross regained popularity, leading to Bandai's desire to reproduce the Valkyrie toy themselves. This led to problems for Takara when they imported the Transformers toyline - although Hasbro was able to market the Jetfire toy in their markets, Takara was not, nor could they promote it via the animated series, since the mold was owned by their main competitor. Although an animation model had been created for Jetfire based on the appearance of the toy (which could be seen in the original toy commercial advertising the figure), this was quickly scrapped and completely redesigned so as to no longer resemble the Valkyrie. This was the design that went on to feature in the comics and cartoons - additionally, the cartoon character was redubbed "Skyfire," presumably because the character no longer served to advertise the Jetfire toy. Some fans of the series consider Skyfire a separate character from Jetfire, though according to writers of the comics and television series it is exactly the same character. In the comic book Jetfire is called Jetfire, not Skyfire, and yet looks identical to Skyfire from the cartoon.

Jetfire only saw a few American production runs, as the show the original toy was based upon, The Super Dimension Fortress Macross, was exported to America to become the first third of Robotech. Ironically, since Hasbro released Jetfire first, there was never a U.S. release of an authentic transforming version of the toy for Robotech, even though the design was the series' most recognizable and popular mecha. As with other pre-Robotech borrowings from Macross (for instance, Battletech), the licensing situation for the toy became murky with two different companies (Big West and Tatsunoko Production) asserting exclusive rights to license Macross merchandise outside Japan. Due to these legal issues, Jetfire has not been among the Transformers toys reissued in the 21st century.
This toy is patented in the U.S. as patent number D287037.


And the Hasbro Jetfire/Shockwave commercial with the Jetfire animation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OEEncGeu8s
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Mechastrike » Mon May 28, 2012 12:04 am

Mindmaster wrote:
Mechastrike wrote:too bad Soundwave couldn't be a working cassette tape player. thank God for Music Label though.


In technicality, Music Label Soundwave isn't a working cassette tape player either. ;)


i know... i'm just saying MP Soundwave can't play music.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby kirbenvost » Mon May 28, 2012 2:47 am

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I gotta say, I'm really liking this recent trend of sub-designations for the repaint figures instead of full numbers. I guess they haven't actually done that since the seekers though, but still.

I'm liking this pricing info for Sideswipe, it could mean it'll end up even more affordable from asian sites.

Soundwave confirmation I was expecting but I'm excited for nonetheless. Quite excited, as he is one of my favorite characters. The pricing is not encouraging, but I'm not sure if this is one I'd want to wait for Hasbro to release. Although, considering MP-10, maybe.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Hotrodimust » Mon May 28, 2012 10:15 am

Just got an email from BBTS $89.99 for sideswipe and $149.99 for soundwave yay baby keep it dropping lol
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby craggy » Mon May 28, 2012 12:33 pm

Mechastrike wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:
Mechastrike wrote:too bad Soundwave couldn't be a working cassette tape player. thank God for Music Label though.


In technicality, Music Label Soundwave isn't a working cassette tape player either. ;)


i know... i'm just saying MP Soundwave can't play music.

if they make MP Animated Soundwave at least he'd have a guitar.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Stormrider » Mon May 28, 2012 7:45 pm

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Having a working cassette player gimmick that sacrifices the transformation or bot or alt mode appearance is not a gimmick I want or need.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Hotrodimust » Mon May 28, 2012 7:51 pm

Stormrider wrote:Having a working cassette player gimmick that sacrifices the transformation or bot or alt mode appearance is not a gimmick I want or need.

That's why I said just a working radio. I've seen some rediculous small radios so I know transformation and QC would not be effected nor price. But since they already lowered the pre order it tells me this figure is gonna come with less gimmicks and mostlikely less if any cassettes
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12A and MP-13 Identities Revealed

Postby Trikeboy » Mon May 28, 2012 9:54 pm

Here's something that crossed my mind today: What colour will Red Alert's head be, red or black?

I would prefer the show accurate red head, what would you like to see?
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