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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby Blurrz » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:39 am

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This thing is a spectacle, congratulations on the clutch gallery!
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 20, 2012 12:47 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Though, two things:
1. How'd you remove the head?


If you're referring to the Scorponok head ... I used the KO reproduction head for those shots, as well as any shots where the arms and legs are posed. Most of the shots in Scorponok's gallery are using the actual toy except for when he's in head mode and posed.
I meant for the Dakatsu Mode, in which the red BlackZarak head isn't present.

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Sabrblade wrote:2. Kinda disappointed that no pic of him in this form has him crawling on his belly all serpent style like he did in the show, but no real biggie.


Not sure that he did that ... I watched the last episode of Masterforce over and over again while doing the serpent mode. If he did do that, it was just a minor scene that I missed while taking photos. I'm sure we'll be just fine without pics like that since I did the far more complicated shots with him upright in his serpent mode.
'Kay.

Though, here's some shots of the Dakatsu Mode sitting on its belly from the episode.
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Seibertron wrote:They're not modes ... the box is just showing you the figure transforming between his 3 modes. I'd be willing to bet the arrows say "Start", "Change", "Change", "Change", and "Finish". Scorponok's box show the exact same in-between modes next to those words.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby njb902 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:06 am

any reason to belive that the have come up with a new gold plastic that dosnt suffer from GPS?
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby alldarker » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:45 am

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Ohhh, man! even though Scorponok is my favorite G1 Transformer, I've never really allowed myself to like Black Zarak, due to the cost and vunerability of the toy. Actually, even the idea of anything breaking on my Scorponok scares me.

But as usual (and I've said this so often before) you've made BZ look awesome, and now I almost want to own him. Dakastu mode is pretty awesome! I've never seen that in actual toy mode, and I'm going to have to try that with Scorponok!
It's too bad you couldn't work out anything with Darkov's parts, but I hear he's fully out of the repro-parts game and he wouldn't be making any more BZ parts anyhow.

njb902 wrote:any reason to belive that the have come up with a new gold plastic that dosnt suffer from GPS?

I think Ryan answered most of your question already earlier:
Seibertron wrote:I would think they would take pains to use one of the other brownish plastics like we've seen in more recent figures or go to gold chromed and gold painted parts instead of the gold plastic. It'd be interesting to see what they would do.

As for gold plastic itself, I thought it had been eliminated a long while ago and/or that gold plastic was no longer being used for Transformers. And then came along the Star Wars Transformers Chewbacca toy ... with gold plastic. I'm still determined that HFTD Leader Class Starscream uses gold plastic as well. Time will tell.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby kirbenvost » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:58 am

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Oh my. :shock: Valiant work, fearless leader! Sorry to hear about the casualties, but you did a great service to us fans. :APPLAUSE:
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby RhA » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:08 am

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kirbenvost wrote:Oh my. :shock: Valiant work, fearless leader! Sorry to hear about the casualties, but you did a great service to us fans. :APPLAUSE:

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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby Mykltron » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:27 am

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Impressive looking figure but that helmet looks awful - too organic and rounded for such a blocky figure. It also renders the headmaster gimmick rather pointless as you can't see it.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby RhA » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:32 am

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Mykltron wrote:Impressive looking figure but that helmet looks awful - too organic and rounded for such a blocky figure. It also renders the headmaster gimmick rather pointless as you can't see it.


Toywise, yes. The show did explain it, though.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:48 am

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VERY nice gallery, and I'm glad you finally did it! but WOW I had no idea just how fragile gold plastic could be.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:54 am

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Rated X wrote:Very impressive. As always the galleries were nicely done. I never knew he had a different head sculpt. I always thought it was a straight repaint. So this is the figure that started the "gold plastic syndrome" outrage ???


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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jul 20, 2012 8:56 am

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Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Though, two things:
1. How'd you remove the head?


If you're referring to the Scorponok head ... I used the KO reproduction head for those shots, as well as any shots where the arms and legs are posed. Most of the shots in Scorponok's gallery are using the actual toy except for when he's in head mode and posed.
I meant for the Dakatsu Mode, in which the red BlackZarak head isn't present.


The red head just pops off. It's just attached via two large pegs on each side of the head, in a similar fashion to the "helmet" for Scorponok. The serpent mode can be achieved just as easily with Scorponok.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:02 am

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Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Though, two things:
1. How'd you remove the head?


If you're referring to the Scorponok head ... I used the KO reproduction head for those shots, as well as any shots where the arms and legs are posed. Most of the shots in Scorponok's gallery are using the actual toy except for when he's in head mode and posed.
I meant for the Dakatsu Mode, in which the red BlackZarak head isn't present.

Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:2. Kinda disappointed that no pic of him in this form has him crawling on his belly all serpent style like he did in the show, but no real biggie.


Not sure that he did that ... I watched the last episode of Masterforce over and over again while doing the serpent mode. If he did do that, it was just a minor scene that I missed while taking photos. I'm sure we'll be just fine without pics like that since I did the far more complicated shots with him upright in his serpent mode.
'Kay.

Though, here's some shots of the Dakatsu Mode sitting on its belly from the episode.
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Thanks for the screenshots. That pose can be accomplished. One day I'll take some photos of Black Zarak like that.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:40 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Also, what's this other mode being advertised here along with the Robot, Scorpion, and Base modes? Anyone here Japanese-savvy enough to tell what it says?

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That's indeed the different stages of transformation, standard issue in G1. Fortunately, I know some Japanese and I can tell you what the words say:

1) Black Sasori, or "Black Scorpion"
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak!

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:38 am

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Mykltron wrote:Impressive looking figure but that helmet looks awful - too organic and rounded for such a blocky figure. It also renders the headmaster gimmick rather pointless as you can't see it.


Toywise, yes. The show did explain it, though.
Erm, well, not exactly.

It did hint at an explanation for this, but it didn't quite go into full detail about it.

See, one of the show's flaws is that, while it did introduce a who lot of cool concepts, it didn't quite go about giving explanations for all of them. It wasn't until after the series ended that they went back and made a new clip show episode special to explain a bunch of these concepts, but in regards to BlackZarak, all it explained about him was that he was Scorponok after having built a new Transtector (after his old MegaZarak one was destroyed), but was captured and brianwashed by Devil Z before he could "Head On!" with his new BlackZarak Transtector.

The actual explanation about BlackZarak being able to function without his head was givin in the Chōjin Masterforce manga, in which it was explained that the smaller Scorponok Headmaster isn't inside BlackZarak's head, but is actually wired to the body inside the Transtector's chest.

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Seibertron wrote:The red head just pops off. It's just attached via two large pegs on each side of the head, in a similar fashion to the "helmet" for Scorponok. The serpent mode can be achieved just as easily with Scorponok.
Got it. Never owned or even played with a G1 Scorponok (but I'd like to).

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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:That's indeed the different stages of transformation, standard issue in G1. Fortunately, I know some Japanese and I can tell you what the words say:

1) Black Sasori, or "Black Scorpion"
2) Transform
3) Black Zarak
4) Destron Yousai, or "Decepticon Fortress"
Thanks.

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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby morphobots » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:03 pm

The envy I experienced upon Ryan purchasing this beast is now eclipsed by my astonishment that he actually transformed it. If that isn't the ultimate expression of dedication after the flash flood catastrophe, I don't know what is. The gallery is more than fabulous, it is/should be legendary.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:06 pm

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morphobots wrote:The envy I experienced upon Ryan purchasing this beast is now eclipsed by my astonishment that he actually transformed it. If that isn't the ultimate expression of dedication after the flash flood catastrophe, I don't know what is. The gallery is more than fabulous, it is/should be legendary.


Thanks for the compliments. It means a lot to me that all of you seem to really appreciate and understand my level of dedication to this fandom, to Seibertron.com, and most importantly ... to the fans of Seibertron.com.

If you thought Black Zarak was the ultimate expression of dedication ... just wait for the next round of galleries coming over the next couple of weeks including the likes of Scorponok (poster earlier today), Overlord, Grand Maximus, Brave Maximus, and new pictures for Fortress Maximus' existing galleries!
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby RAcast » Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:43 pm

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morphobots wrote:The envy I experienced upon Ryan purchasing this beast is now eclipsed by my astonishment that he actually transformed it. If that isn't the ultimate expression of dedication after the flash flood catastrophe, I don't know what is. The gallery is more than fabulous, it is/should be legendary.


Thanks for the compliments. It means a lot to me that all of you seem to really appreciate and understand my level of dedication to this fandom, to Seibertron.com, and most importantly ... to the fans of Seibertron.com.

If you thought Black Zarak was the ultimate expression of dedication ... just wait for the next round of galleries coming over the next couple of weeks including the likes of Scorponok (poster earlier today), Overlord, Grand Maximus, Brave Maximus, and new pictures for Fortress Maximus' existing galleries!


Of course! If it weren't for you, we wouldn't have this forum, let alone all of the simply glorious galleries you've posted. Looking forward to the upcoming ones, especially Overlord and Brave Max!
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:40 pm

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Seibertron wrote:If you thought Black Zarak was the ultimate expression of dedication ... just wait for the next round of galleries coming over the next couple of weeks including the likes of Scorponok (poster earlier today), Overlord, Grand Maximus, Brave Maximus, and new pictures for Fortress Maximus' existing galleries!
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:48 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:If you thought Black Zarak was the ultimate expression of dedication ... just wait for the next round of galleries coming over the next couple of weeks including the likes of Scorponok (poster earlier today), Overlord, Grand Maximus, Brave Maximus, and new pictures for Fortress Maximus' existing galleries!
You spoil us, good sir. Image

Though, since you bring up the Fort Max molds, do you have (or plan on getting) the Lucky Draw Brave Maximus, which includes all of the G1 Fort Max accessories (including the swords) that were missing from the retail Brave Max release? ;)


The accessories were never available with the Lucky Draw Cybertron Base. The accessories themselves were given away as a Lucky Draw set from Takara, sans Brave Maximus.

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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:11 pm

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Seibertron wrote:The accessories were never available with the Lucky Draw Cybertron Base. The accessories themselves were given away as a Lucky Draw set from Takara, sans Brave Maximus.

No I do not plan on getting any Lucky Draw items, not unless I win the lottery.
I wasn't referring to RobotMasters Cybertron Base.

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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby Seibertron » Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:32 pm

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Seibertron wrote:The accessories were never available with the Lucky Draw Cybertron Base. The accessories themselves were given away as a Lucky Draw set from Takara, sans Brave Maximus.

No I do not plan on getting any Lucky Draw items, not unless I win the lottery.
I wasn't referring to RobotMasters Cybertron Base.

Though, if you knew someone (not refering to me) who had the Lucky Draw accessories, would you do a gallery with them and Brave Max if they let you borrow them?


Maybe. Though I would prefer to own them ... it gives me motivation to work on these galleries and to complete my collection. Taking photos of someone else's items takes away all the steam from me wanting it, plus it scares the crap out of me handling someone else's rare Transformers items.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby xyl360 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:55 pm

Seibertron wrote:
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Seibertron wrote:The accessories were never available with the Lucky Draw Cybertron Base. The accessories themselves were given away as a Lucky Draw set from Takara, sans Brave Maximus.

No I do not plan on getting any Lucky Draw items, not unless I win the lottery.
I wasn't referring to RobotMasters Cybertron Base.

Though, if you knew someone (not refering to me) who had the Lucky Draw accessories, would you do a gallery with them and Brave Max if they let you borrow them?


Maybe. Though I would prefer to own them ... it gives me motivation to work on these galleries and to complete my collection. Taking photos of someone else's items takes away all the steam from me wanting it, plus it scares the crap out of me handling someone else's rare Transformers items.

Speaking of which, is it possible for any of us who might wish to to make PayPal donations to you in order to provide fundage for specific figures of our choosing for you to purchase for your collection so that you can do galleries for them?

I ask because you've mentioned before that there are some figures which are pricier than you're willing to pay for them and that's why you don't own them and thus don't have galleries for them.

I'm not saying I'd buy you a bunch of Lucky Draw figures or anything, but I'd certainly donate to the cause of some other less expensive figures I'd like to see in the galleries.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby Seibertron » Sat Jul 21, 2012 12:34 am

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xyl360 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:The accessories were never available with the Lucky Draw Cybertron Base. The accessories themselves were given away as a Lucky Draw set from Takara, sans Brave Maximus.

No I do not plan on getting any Lucky Draw items, not unless I win the lottery.
I wasn't referring to RobotMasters Cybertron Base.

Though, if you knew someone (not refering to me) who had the Lucky Draw accessories, would you do a gallery with them and Brave Max if they let you borrow them?


Maybe. Though I would prefer to own them ... it gives me motivation to work on these galleries and to complete my collection. Taking photos of someone else's items takes away all the steam from me wanting it, plus it scares the crap out of me handling someone else's rare Transformers items.

Speaking of which, is it possible for any of us who might wish to to make PayPal donations to you in order to provide fundage for specific figures of our choosing for you to purchase for your collection so that you can do galleries for them?

I ask because you've mentioned before that there are some figures which are pricier than you're willing to pay for them and that's why you don't own them and thus don't have galleries for them.

I'm not saying I'd buy you a bunch of Lucky Draw figures or anything, but I'd certainly donate to the cause of some other less expensive figures I'd like to see in the galleries.


I'm flattered and I appreciate the offer. While I will admit it is tempting to see what galleries could be accomplished via many people pooling together small donations, I don't feel that this would be appropriate since Seibertron.com is an actual business.

On that note, which figures are you interested in having me take photos of? I might own them already and just need some direction of where to point my camera the next time I'm caught up with current releases of figures.
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:11 am

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Seibertron wrote:Maybe. Though I would prefer to own them ... it gives me motivation to work on these galleries and to complete my collection. Taking photos of someone else's items takes away all the steam from me wanting it, plus it scares the crap out of me handling someone else's rare Transformers items.
Was the Green Unicron gallery a borrowed item?
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Re: New Super God Masterforce gallery: Black Zarak with Black Roritchi and Scorponok

Postby xyl360 » Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:32 am

Seibertron wrote:
xyl360 wrote:
Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Seibertron wrote:The accessories were never available with the Lucky Draw Cybertron Base. The accessories themselves were given away as a Lucky Draw set from Takara, sans Brave Maximus.

No I do not plan on getting any Lucky Draw items, not unless I win the lottery.
I wasn't referring to RobotMasters Cybertron Base.

Though, if you knew someone (not refering to me) who had the Lucky Draw accessories, would you do a gallery with them and Brave Max if they let you borrow them?


Maybe. Though I would prefer to own them ... it gives me motivation to work on these galleries and to complete my collection. Taking photos of someone else's items takes away all the steam from me wanting it, plus it scares the crap out of me handling someone else's rare Transformers items.

Speaking of which, is it possible for any of us who might wish to to make PayPal donations to you in order to provide fundage for specific figures of our choosing for you to purchase for your collection so that you can do galleries for them?

I ask because you've mentioned before that there are some figures which are pricier than you're willing to pay for them and that's why you don't own them and thus don't have galleries for them.

I'm not saying I'd buy you a bunch of Lucky Draw figures or anything, but I'd certainly donate to the cause of some other less expensive figures I'd like to see in the galleries.


I'm flattered and I appreciate the offer. While I will admit it is tempting to see what galleries could be accomplished via many people pooling together small donations, I don't feel that this would be appropriate since Seibertron.com is an actual business.

On that note, which figures are you interested in having me take photos of? I might own them already and just need some direction of where to point my camera the next time I'm caught up with current releases of figures.

Well, I wasn't talking about small donations. I was actually planning on giving you money to purchase some figures of my choosing, in particular, some Beast Wars figures. Especially Japanese variants. Almost the entire line has at least subtle variances in the paint schemes/color schemes when compared to their US counterparts (my own collection is largely made up of all of the Beast Wars figures from both Takara and Hasbro as well as their re-used molds in other lines like Armada and Beast Machines).

I'd like Seibertron's galleries to become an index of every figure ever made, including all variants and re-uses of molds as well as other versions of each character, pretty much identical to what can be found on TFU.info, but with your far superior galleries instead of their 2~3 pictures (which are often not that great).

It would be like having an online database of beautiful pictorial reviews with the most accurate representations of what the figures actually look like in real life.

I mentioned Beast Wars specifically because a while back I mentioned that one of the Japanese versions of a figure from the line didn't have a gallery, and you mentioned you hadn't found one for a reasonable price, so I'm basically offering to fund the purchase of one which would be 'unreasonably priced' so that it could have a gallery. I would of course be donating it, as I myself already own the figure and I don't need a duplicate.
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