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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby Mindmaster » Sat Sep 29, 2012 11:41 am

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Sep 29, 2012 2:55 pm

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby Archanubis » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:29 pm

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby phase » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:35 pm

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I dunno. "Alpha/Omega" was epic, but I feel like the Star Saber's time was cut short, and that Megatron forged the Dark Saber too quickly. I mean, at least in Armada they actually used the Mini-Con weapons for several episodes, i.e. how Hot Shot owned the Cons with the Star Saber, but getting beaten by Scavenger and betrayed by Sideways hit him hard. Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Sep 29, 2012 6:45 pm

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phase wrote:the Star Saber's time was cut short,


:lol: pun

phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.


The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that. :P
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby phase » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:15 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:the Star Saber's time was cut short,


:lol: pun

Unintended, but I derp.

PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.


The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that. :P

And what've they done with that? Create an over-powered weapon, that's all.
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:17 pm

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phase wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:the Star Saber's time was cut short,


:lol: pun

Unintended, but I derp.

PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.


The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that. :P

And what've they done with that? Create an over-powered weapon, that's all.


If he has more Dark Energon, which I'm pretty sure he does, he could make one for every [named] Decepticon! ;)^
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby phase » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:25 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:the Star Saber's time was cut short,


:lol: pun

Unintended, but I derp.

PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.


The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that. :P

And what've they done with that? Create an over-powered weapon, that's all.


If he has more Dark Energon, which I'm pretty sure he does, he could make one for every [named] Decepticon! ;)^

No. I don't want Dark Energon to become the new Bumblebee be more overpowered than it apparently already is.
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby XDMan » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:26 pm

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:32 pm

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phase wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:the Star Saber's time was cut short,


:lol: pun

Unintended, but I derp.

PrymeStriker wrote:
phase wrote:Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.


The 'cons also have the Forge of Solus Prime. Let's not forget that. :P

And what've they done with that? Create an over-powered weapon, that's all.


If he has more Dark Energon, which I'm pretty sure he does, he could make one for every [named] Decepticon! ;)^

No. I don't want Dark Energon to become the new Bumblebee be more overpowered than it apparently already is.


Actually, if a chunk of Dark Energon can bring up a planet full of the undead...

but Megatron wouldn't do that anyway. He'd give one to Soundwave at least, but tell me when he's gone head to head with an Autobot other than Wheeljack. I don't think Megatron trusts anyone else with such a powerful weapon, given the events that took place with Starscream and Airachnid.
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby Sabrblade » Sat Sep 29, 2012 7:41 pm

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phase wrote:I dunno. "Alpha/Omega" was epic, but I feel like the Star Saber's time was cut short, and that Megatron forged the Dark Saber too quickly. I mean, at least in Armada they actually used the Mini-Con weapons for several episodes, i.e. how Hot Shot owned the Cons with the Star Saber, but getting beaten by Scavenger and betrayed by Sideways hit him hard. Meanwhile, in Prime, the Star Saber is an epic sword, but gets broken by some Dark Energon, and the only artifact anyone's actually using is the phase shifter. Sure, Screamer's got Red Energon, Megs has the Dark Saber, and KO's gonna have the Resonance Blaster, but how long are those going to last? If you have plot devices in a series, you should use them.
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby El Duque » Wed Oct 03, 2012 3:39 pm

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby ARCTrooperAlpha » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:10 pm

Do Dreadwing's explosive always have to have a countdown beeping sound ??!!!

Its frickin' annoying.

And once again, the good guys come out unscathed.

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby griftimus prime » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:24 pm

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby ARCTrooperAlpha » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:32 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:no one will die in this episode


Who said anyone would?



I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters, but the Bots lost one.


That is ridiculous
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby PrymeStriker » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:43 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:no one will die in this episode


Who said anyone would?



I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters,


Uhhhhh, Breakdown is the only semi-main character that's dead. Airachnid is in stasis, hoping to make a return for Beast Hunters, and Starscream might join the 'cons again in S2E24.

but the Bots lost one.


Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character. All main Autobots are accounted for.

Also, while we're at it, Tailgate and Seaspray are dead too.
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:48 pm

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ARCTrooperAlpha wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:no one will die in this episode


Who said anyone would?



I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters, but the Bots lost one.


That is ridiculous
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby ARCTrooperAlpha » Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:48 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
ARCTrooperAlpha wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:no one will die in this episode


Who said anyone would?



I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters,


Uhhhhh, Breakdown is the only semi-main character that's dead. Airachnid is in stasis, hoping to make a return for Beast Hunters, and Starscream might join the 'cons again in S2E24.

but the Bots lost one.


Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character. All main Autobots are accounted for.

Also, while we're at it, Tailgate and Seaspray are dead too.




Oh for god's sake, look at the bigger picture !!! The Decepticon management team is shrinking, Autobots not so much.


Tailgate and Seaspray don't count in my argument cause they're "passing by" characters. And since cliffjumper gets mentioned so many times, I assumed he was a main character.
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby PrymeStriker » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:50 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
ARCTrooperAlpha wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:no one will die in this episode


Who said anyone would?



I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters,


Uhhhhh, Breakdown is the only semi-main character that's dead. Airachnid is in stasis, hoping to make a return for Beast Hunters, and Starscream might join the 'cons again in S2E24.

but the Bots lost one.


Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character. All main Autobots are accounted for.

Also, while we're at it, Tailgate and Seaspray are dead too.




Oh for god's sake, look at the bigger picture !!! The Decepticon management team is shrinking, Autobots not so much.


But...we're talking about character deaths, and every death except for Breakdown's was a minor character.

Tailgate and Seaspray don't count in my argument cause they're "passing by" characters. And since cliffjumper gets mentioned so many times, I assumed he was a main character.


What defines a main character is it's importance and contribution to the overall plot. Cliffjumper is only mentioned when Arcee has her [annoying] revenge arc, and a few rare times after that. We can't really count a character that's been dead since Episode 1 a main character, no matter how many times he appears in flashbacks. If we wanted to consider Cliffjumper a main character because of that, we might as well include Tailgate.

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PrymeStriker wrote:Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character.
He was promoted as one, at least.


And isn't irony wonderful?

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby ARCTrooperAlpha » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:06 pm

PrymeStriker wrote:
ARCTrooperAlpha wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
ARCTrooperAlpha wrote:
PrymeStriker wrote:
griftimus prime wrote:no one will die in this episode


Who said anyone would?



I believe he's referring to the unchanged status quo. The Cons lost a few of their main characters,


Uhhhhh, Breakdown is the only semi-main character that's dead. Airachnid is in stasis, hoping to make a return for Beast Hunters, and Starscream might join the 'cons again in S2E24.

but the Bots lost one.


Cliffjumper? You're joking right? He's not a main character. All main Autobots are accounted for.

Also, while we're at it, Tailgate and Seaspray are dead too.




Oh for god's sake, look at the bigger picture !!! The Decepticon management team is shrinking, Autobots not so much.


But...we're talking about character deaths, and every death except for Breakdown's was a minor character.

Tailgate and Seaspray don't count in my argument cause they're "passing by" characters. And since cliffjumper gets mentioned so many times, I assumed he was a main character.


What defines a main character is it's importance and contribution to the overall plot. Cliffjumper is only mentioned when Arcee has her [annoying] revenge arc, and a few rare times after that. We can't really count a character that's been dead since Episode 1 a main character, no matter how many times he appears in flashbacks. If we wanted to consider Cliffjumper a main character because of that, we might as well include Tailgate.


At this rate of the show, the Autobots will still lose less guys than the Decepticons. It's kinda turned into Star Trek Voyager and the magic reset button.

Why DO the writers keep mentioning Cliffjumper anyway ? Is it just for Hasbro to keep selling his toys ?
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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:20 pm

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ARCTrooperAlpha wrote:Why DO the writers keep mentioning Cliffjumper anyway ? Is it just for Hasbro to keep selling his toys ?
Drama. He died, so them mentioning him over and over is meant to make the story feel more dramatic. :roll:

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Re: Transformers Prime Season 2 Episode 22 "Hard Knocks"

Postby ARCTrooperAlpha » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:26 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
ARCTrooperAlpha wrote:Why DO the writers keep mentioning Cliffjumper anyway ? Is it just for Hasbro to keep selling his toys ?
Drama. He died, so them mentioning him over and over is meant to make the story feel more dramatic. :roll:

Your mileage may vary, though. ;)


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It's like Star Trek TNG repeatedly mentioning Georgdi La Forge is blind at birth
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