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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby DMSL » Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:45 am

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Here's hoping Fort Max will have the detail painted on and not have stickers, hate those.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:02 am

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Ravage XK wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
What IS a justifiable price for Fortmax anyway?


This is a good question and one for minds larger than ours.


I'm not good at math economics but iirc on a somewhat related vintage product aka as the Atari 2600, the computation factoring inflation pegs the Atari 2600 at close to $ 700 at todays price when back in the 1970s cost like $ 300. So if Fortmax back in 1987 cost around $ 100, it's SRP at amiami is Y 23,000 +, more or less $300.00 at todays exchange rates(not including shipping so you also have to take into consideration the cost of fuel/packaging overseas from China to the USA or Europe).

Given that, so Fortmax more or less tripled in price from his 1987 cost (then again, $ 100 + bought a lot of stuff back in the late 80s no?). Compare that to the astronomical price you get at ebay, I'd say Fortmax is still a bargain. Charging him any less than $ 300 is simply unrealistic! >:oP
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby Ravage XK » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:08 am

Motto: "Never mess with anything that has bigger or more wheels that you."
Costing £299 (equiv of $481) in the UK at Kapow Toys.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:23 am

Motto: "Power to the strong and the right!"
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Ravage XK wrote:Costing £299 (equiv of $481) in the UK at Kapow Toys.


Does that include shipping? If not, then that must be the mark up of the shop you mentioned.

Here is the price of the now sold out Fortmax (not including shipping) at amiami:

http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail ... agecnt%3D1

At todays exchange rates that should be more or less US 300.00 or at UK GBP of £185.

So Ravage XK, if the price you are quoting includes shipping, then that is more or less justified, if not, then you better look for another source (try hooking it up with another source)
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby Ravage XK » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:31 am

Motto: "Never mess with anything that has bigger or more wheels that you."
That is the total price as I believe shipping from the shop (UK based) is free. Plus you don't have to worry about Customs etc, so yeah I can see how it would cost that much.

I still think its a lot of cash when Metroplex and Omega Supreme cost me about £60 each.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:41 am

Motto: "Power to the strong and the right!"
Weapon: Plasma Cannon
Agreed with your feelings........too much of a wallet buster but given how he's 3 x bigger (more plastic) than Metroplex.

P.S. So Kapow also handles customs and handling? Then the price you are quoting is verrrrrry much justified.
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby KUMA-NIN Maximus » Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:54 am

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At this point of time,I am curious to how the "Encore" packaging will look for Fortress Maximus. I have mine pre-ordered (sans the "early bird" option), and read on e-HOBBY's page that it might be a limited 25th anniversary release. Regardless of that, this was one of those pieces that I made a point of pre-ordering regardless of its price. 8)

As for Devastor, I have concluded that I am good only having "2010" Predaking when it comes to Destron combiners. And seeing this, it has added to that conclusion. :BOOM:

Ravage XK wrote:Maximus is huge but boxy and seems to be a giant brick. I have been collecting G1 Encore and the collector in me wants it but I cant justify that price :( I think my money will be going on Masterpiece figures for the moment.


Welcome to the world of 1987 Transformers! :lol: However, when it comes to pricing, here is what you need to know:

1) It is 22", it has three forms, and is the first (of three) double Headmasters.
2) It is an anniversary piece, and e-HOBBY hints that it might have a limited run.
3) It is being imported from Japan, so you have to add import costs.

So all-in-all, the prices here are an estimated $80 more than the cheapest price overseas. But it is still cheaper than buying it from e-HOBBY. And unless you do not have the money, or are not into Headmasters, this might end up being the only time Takara Tomy will reissue Fortress Maximus.

Oh... And Hasbro made it clear that they cannot reissue him due to safety regulations. Which has me say that you should consider if it fits your collection or not, and not use the price to say "no" (as you may see it cost more when you change your mind). ;)
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby Ravage XK » Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:07 am

Motto: "Never mess with anything that has bigger or more wheels that you."
KUMA-NIN Maximus wrote:1) It is 22", it has three forms, and is the first (of three) double Headmasters.
2) It is an anniversary piece, and e-HOBBY hints that it might have a limited run.
3) It is being imported from Japan, so you have to add import costs.

So all-in-all, the prices here are an estimated $80 more than the cheapest price overseas. But it is still cheaper than buying it from e-HOBBY. And unless you do not have the money, or are not into Headmasters, this might end up being the only time Takara Tomy will reissue Fortress Maximus.

Oh... And Hasbro made it clear that they cannot reissue him due to safety regulations. Which has me say that you should consider if it fits your collection or not, and not use the price to say "no" (as you may see it cost more when you change your mind). ;)



la la la la, Im not listening. Stop tempting me!! :)

I'm a sucker for limited runs etc.

No, its too much to pay for one figure and I need to pay for Masterpiece figures and holiday..........arrrrgghhhhh
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:08 am

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Choose your allegiance then! Fortmax or Masterpiece! :lol:
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Re: Official Images: Takara Tomy Encore 20A Devastator and Encore 23 Fortress Maximus

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:40 am

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fenrir72 wrote:Choose your allegiance then! Fortmax or Masterpiece! :lol:


Despite the price: Fortress Maximus! He's harder to get as it is.
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