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[Dammitman]

Your comment pretty much says it all. "...It's not G1 Slag." Therefore Slag hasn't consistently kept his name. It's like Prince changing his name to a "Formerly known" or Snoop Dogg calling himself Snoop Lion or Darth Vader, instead of being a bad ass becoming a whiny puss. (although I don't think the Vader one was a good analogy but there it is.) I understand what is being said about why they changed the name but afterall there are still plenty of Americans out there named "Dick" regardless of what slang has made it out to be. So to me Hasbro, High Moon, or whoever is just copping out.

[Sabrblade]

Your comment pretty much says it all. "...It's not G1 Slag." Therefore Slag hasn't consistently kept his name. It's like Prince changing his name to a "Formerly known" or Snoop Dogg calling himself Snoop Lion or Darth Vader, instead of being a bad ass becoming a whiny puss. (although I don't think the Vader one was a good analogy but there it is.) I understand what is being said about why they changed the name but afterall there are still plenty of Americans out there named "Dick" regardless of what slang has made it out to be. So to me Hasbro, High Moon, or whoever is just copping out.

I still don't follow. If Slug is a separate character from Slag, how does Slug's name affect the consistency of Slag's name?

[Dammitman]

I don't see how Slug is a seperate character. Dinobot. Transforms into a Triceratops. Loves to fight. Flamethrower. How is it not Slag? The rest of the other Dinobots remained consistent, with the exception of the "Animated" series where they called Slag, Snarl, and left out Sludge and the Stegosaurus who was supposed to be Snarl.

[Sabrblade]

I don't see how Slug is a seperate character. Dinobot. Transforms into a Triceratops. Loves to fight. Flamethrower. How is it not Slag? The rest of the other Dinobots remained consistent, with the exception of the "Animated" series where they called Slag, Snarl, and left out Sludge and the Stegosaurus who was supposed to be Snarl.

Different continuity = different character.

This Grimlock isn't the same guy as G1 Grimlock, just as Animated Grimlock wasn't the same guy as G1 Grimlock, etc.

These games are unrelated to G1, so its characters aren't the same guys as the G1 characters they pay homage to.

[Dammitman]

I don't believe that is true. The Cybertron games are the prequel to the G1 continuity. These are the characters before they crashed to Earth. The similarities Are almost identical to say they are not the same character is ludicrous. I'm sure as future games develop, If High Moon decides to continue the franchise, We will see a convergence to the G1 continuity with some minor inclusions to give a nod to the Armada, Cybertron, RID, etc. Fanbase as well as clean up some of the 80's camp and maybe even modernize the styles to match the generations (classics) toy lines bringing Transformers full circle to its origins.

[Sabrblade]

I don't believe that is true. The Cybertron games are the prequel to the G1 continuity.

And this right here is the root of your confusion.

"Being heavily inspired by and paying homage to G1" is not the same as "being G1".

These games are not G1 games, nor are they meant to tie into any existing G1 continuity.

Read this to see why - http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Aligned_continuity_family

If that page isn't working, this one might help - http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Franchise/TransformersAlignedUniverse

[Dammitman]

Sorry. I'm not buying it. Putting polish on original characters and not saying it's the original doesn't make it so. I don't trust wiki as source material no matter how acurate it may be it is not authentic. The idea you are trying to get across sounds to me like saying the Ultimate universe isn't Marvel. Granted the characters are no longer what they were essentially at it's core they are the same character. Wolverine is still Wolverine even though he is now a foot taller and goes by the name James instead of Logan. Some changes are good and can be accepted and sometimes makes for an even more interesting character but changing a characters name because it offends someone somewhere else to me is completely stupid. Changing Slag to Slug is up there with saying Happy holidays instead of Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas!

[Sabrblade]

Believe it or not, these games are Aligned Continuity games, not G1 games.

Not to mention that the whole Rage of the Dinobots comic mini-series is specifically made to be bot ha sequel to FOC and a prequel to TF: Prime season 3, helping to bridge the gap between the two.

[PrymeStriker]

I don't believe that is true. The Cybertron games are the prequel to the G1 continuity. These are the characters before they crashed to Earth.

Actually, the Cybertron games are the prequel to Prime and Rescue Bots, not G1. Exodus, WFC, FoC, Exiles, Prime, and Rescue Bots are all part of the Aligned continuity in order of events.

The similarities Are almost identical to say they are not the same character is ludicrous

Similarities don't make it the same character. Armada Optimus and G1 Optimus are both Optimus, but they are different guys. So G1 Slag and Prime Slug are different characters.