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Re: Why I think this year's Botcon Boxset Stinks

Postby Burn » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:12 pm

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Apelinq, Shokaract, CatSCAN, Antagony, Fractyl, Packrat, Onyx Primal ... this is what I mean by "original characters", and they were all BotCon exclusives pre-FunPub.
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Re: Why I think this year's Botcon Boxset Stinks

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:39 pm

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Mkall wrote:First, only 3/5 characters are actually from Machine Wars.

[...]

They have been saying "Machine Wars" for the last 4 months which means the box set SHOULD BE Machine Wars, not Machine Wars and others...


Nobody said that all 5 characters were going to originate from the original Machine Wars line up. They even told us in the very beginning that they would be adding new characters. That was no "tease." They gave us a fair warning. Plus, it's Machine Wars themed, not a Machine Wars redux.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Megaplex Revealed

Postby Yweggo » Thu Feb 28, 2013 6:45 pm

This is the only BC13 toy that does anything for me, and thats only cause I got Skyquake yesterday (for a steal I might add ($12)). Love this mold.

Still to bad he doesn't have a Megatron head.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Megaplex Revealed

Postby Rated X » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:02 pm

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Seibertron wrote:This would have worked with a new G1 styled Megatron head. But without it, it doesn't look like a clone of Megatron at all. It looks like a recolored Dreadwing. Megaplex with a new head would have sold the set alone. I thought reveals 3 through 5 were supposed to be the ones that wowed us all?

:HEADHURTS: :HEADHURTS: :HEADHURTS: :HEADHURTS: :HEADHURTS:

And for good measure ...

:michaelbay:

And they wonder why there's such an explosion of 3rd party products over the past 1/2 decade. These poor decisions/choices to save a buck are really frustrating. Believe in your products, do them right so that no explanations are needed, toss in a modified weapon for Hoist so he's got a tow hook, a new head for Megatron Megaplex, and charge us 20 to 50 bucks more for the set.


So if Dr. Wu makes a Megatron head that installs easy without damaging the figure, are you in ?
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Re: Why I think this year's Botcon Boxset Stinks

Postby Mkall » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:03 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:
Mkall wrote:First, only 3/5 characters are actually from Machine Wars.

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They have been saying "Machine Wars" for the last 4 months which means the box set SHOULD BE Machine Wars, not Machine Wars and others...


Nobody said that all 5 characters were going to originate from the original Machine Wars line up. They even told us in the very beginning that they would be adding new characters. That was no "tease." They gave us a fair warning. Plus, it's Machine Wars themed, not a Machine Wars redux.

Very much so, and I expected non-MW characters in the set. What I did not expect was them taking two fairly prominent characters from the Beast Machines line and saying "These two are now in this set."

The original Machine Wars concept was taking G1 Characters and giving them facelifts. Strika and Obsidian were not treated with the same respect. For a Machine Wars: series 2 (as Pete called it) it is not a faithful continuation of what he said they were going for IMO.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Megaplex Revealed

Postby Megatron Wolf » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:11 pm

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popular mold? i never even seen it in my area. One of the few prime figures i wanted and never saw it. But with that aside how come theres no remolding? If hes suppose to be a clone of megatron shouldnt he look like megatron? The original toy did.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Megaplex Revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:13 pm

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With a slight modification to the head connector, the GDO Megatron head can fit onto the Dreadwing mold.

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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Megaplex Revealed

Postby PrymeStriker » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:15 pm

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Megatron Wolf wrote:But with that aside how come theres no remolding? If hes suppose to be a clone of megatron shouldnt he look like megatron? The original toy did.


Because four new heads is the limit, and they already used them on Hoist, Skywarp, Strika, and Obsidian.
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Re: Botcon 2013 "Machine Wars: Termination" set revealed

Postby Sabrblade » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:27 pm

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Clarification on the decision to use this mold from Jesse Wittenrich's Twitter:

Initially there was some indecision about what mold to use for Megaplex. Character-wise there had to be a toy for him. But there weren't many of the available jets that worked. So there was some hemming and hawing as they were mulled over. And then Fun Pub got their hands on the Dreadwing mold! Pretty much everyone that had a chance to play around with it loved it. Seriously, if you never got TF Prime Dreadwing, go out and get one now. It's a fantastic toy. After the mold was decided, then came the discussion about the head. It's not your typical Megatron bucket head, but we noticed a few things about it that worked for Megaplex. Like the other Machine Wars fans out there, we really enjoyed the...quirks of the original packaging. And looking at Megaplex's original art. We saw something. Since Megaplex reused UK Falcon's box art, he had these funky eyebrows sweeping off the sides of his head. Megaplex art: http://tfu.info/1997/Decepticon/Megaplex/megaplex.htm … Falcon art: http://tfu.info/1992/Decepticon/Falcon/falcon.htm … Then we looked at Dreadwing. And he too had funky eyebrows sweeping off the sides of his head. But Dreadwing still had this very distinct styling to his helmet with all of its curvatures and ornamentation. Then we looked at Skywarp's styling (and a couple of the souvenir figures) and we saw that same style and ornamentation on Dreadwing's head. And putting them all together, they looked like a team. They looked very cohesive - the sculpts just fit together perfectly. So we stepped back and looked at everything. A fantastic mold, a head that - while not the first thing we thought of - still worked. And the decision was made. Megaplex had his mold!And yes, the mold came available VERY late in the planning stages. But there was still a little bit of time to discuss the head.
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Re: BotCon 2013 Machine Wars Megaplex Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:38 pm

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Seibertron wrote:This would have worked with a new G1 styled Megatron head. But without it, it doesn't look like a clone of Megatron at all. It looks like a recolored Dreadwing. Megaplex with a new head would have sold the set alone. I thought reveals 3 through 5 were supposed to be the ones that wowed us all?

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And for good measure ...

:michaelbay:

And they wonder why there's such an explosion of 3rd party products over the past 1/2 decade. These poor decisions/choices to save a buck are really frustrating. Believe in your products, do them right so that no explanations are needed, toss in a modified weapon for Hoist so he's got a tow hook, a new head for Megatron Megaplex, and charge us 20 to 50 bucks more for the set.


So if Dr. Wu makes a Megatron head that installs easy without damaging the figure, are you in ?


Of course not ... just saying they should do it right the first time.
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