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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Yotsuyasan » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:49 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:I guess you're right but that's only saying that these guys aren't that smart... seriously How smart is it to buy this thing to resell? you're not getting much out of it if you're doing the math. there's so many alternatives "retail, Takara, HK exclusive"


Well, based on the ones with "Buy it Now" options, they are hoping to at least double their money. And I'm sure there are enough people who aren't as knowledgeable bout the import market who will happily pay those outrageous prices.

So a sad combination of stupidity and greed basically means less SDCC Metroplexes for reasonable prices.

mooncake623 wrote:you shoudl buy from BBTS its cheaper.


He's also the same price at TFSource. And I already had a bunch of stuff in my order stack there, so I just added a Metroplex preorder to the pile.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby mooncake623 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:06 pm

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Well, based on the ones with "Buy it Now" options, they are hoping to at least double their money. And I'm sure there are enough people who aren't as knowledgeable bout the import market who will happily pay those outrageous prices.


lol everyone can have hopes and dreams. I really don't think it'll be more then $250 in the long run if you wait it out a bit.

EDIT::

This guy is selling for $250 free shipping... or you can make him an offer. so if one assumes he got this for 185 he is literally making $10

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-Comic-Con-Exclusive-Transfomer-Metroplex-MISB/151088595572?ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1&ih=005&category=83732&cmd=ViewItem
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Metrosuplex » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:12 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:Personally I don't think these got scalped. It is one per house hold. How many can someone buy before the 10 mins are up? Plus there's a HK exclusive that is readily available for $250. Metroplex with shipping and tax in my state cost me 185. if you sell this on ebay for around 250 you will make what 20 bucks? (at $250 ebay takes %10 so 25 bucks and shipping is at least $20 on this thing paypal takes 4%... so buy for 185 sell for $250 55 from fees and shipping and you make $10 for 3 days of f5ing. I was going to give up after today.. all the stress from waiting hardly seems worth it. but I truly believe everyone that got one is a fan and would love to have it.


So there WAS a limit? I didn't know. But the scalpers are still there, even if your calculations are good. For one thing, you forget about other sell sites like Amazon. For example, someone's already listed Vanilla Metro for $180, and he's not out until Aug. 1st!

Anyway, my comment was for TF's overall, and mostly aimed at MP Soundwave, who is facing a similar fiasco - lots of people buying the only 2 Soundwaves in a given store, thanks to the promo. I'd love to believe they're all fans, but I'm too cynical. :sad:

Yotsuyasan wrote:If I was a vindictive person, I'd say I hope all of those scalpers all choke on the money they'll get.

Yes. :michaelbay:
mooncake623 wrote:I guess you're right but that's only saying that these guys aren't that smart... seriously How smart is it to buy this thing to resell? you're not getting much out of it if you're doing the math. there's so many alternatives "retail, Takara, HK exclusive"


Some great replies to your post. And why $185? No free ship for being over $50? :???: That sucks. $25 shipping/tax???? :BANG_HEAD:

But basically, as mentioned, there are a lot of lazy/dumb people who don't know about BBTS and HK Metro/Takara Metro. Plus, everyone wants that awesome SDCC Metro box - it does look sweet. (I've heard conversations between TF collectors about how they never liked Asian TF's because the Chinese/Japanese on the boxes doesn't look right, etc. etc. etc.).

AND, I would add that most people do NOT do the math. They may very well be making only $10 on the sale, but they probably wouldn't figure it out until AFTER the sale. I once saw a scalper at Best Buy literally HOARDING tons of copies of crap games. These were games no one wanted, and he was collecting them like gold bars. Shifty **** who didn't like me staring at his hoard behavior. And I thought, "How much is he going to make on crap no one wanted to buy from Best Buy????" But clearly he had a plan. Even if he ends up making $1 on each game, I'm sure he thinks scalping is the best job.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:17 pm

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If you guys want a convention exclusive, you guys have to go to the convention. If you choose not to go to the convention, then don't complain about people who try to make a little money off some products at the event that they attended. It's the name of the game. These trips are extremely expensive. If someone wants to offset some of their costs by flipping some exclusives, then so be it. I'd know I'd like to recoup some of the $3,000+ my wife and I spent last week to attend Comic-Con on flights, hotels, food, my exclusives, the $140 to ship back my exclusives, etc.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby mooncake623 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:25 pm

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Some great replies to your post. And why $185? No free ship for being over $50? :???: That sucks. $25 shipping/tax???? :BANG_HEAD:



there was no free shipping on Exclusives at HTS. so its $150, $20 shipping, and around $15 tax. so i got mine for $185 in that 10 mins window. and I feel lucky.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Metrosuplex » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:26 pm

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Seibertron wrote:If you guys want a convention exclusive, you guys have to go to the convention. If you choose not to go to the convention, then don't complain about people who try to make a little money off some products at the event that they attended. It's the name of the game. These trips are extremely expensive. If someone wants to offset some of their costs by flipping some exclusives, then so be it. I'd know I'd like to recoup some of the $3,000+ my wife and I spent last week to attend Comic-Con on flights, hotels, food, my exclusives, the $140 to ship back my exclusives, etc.

No offense, Seibertron, but what if... WHAT IF... we can't afford to go??? :sad:

I guess you're saying we should all spend the money and go... then buy extra exclusives, flip them, and lower our overall costs. Truly, a splendid scalper plan.

But my problem is this: if you can sell Metroplex for $250, and Hasbro made $100 on that sale... well, what do you say to Hasbro? Tough nuts?

If Hasbro made that money (as they manufacturer/wholesaler, they could build up the brand - i.e. Hasbro profits = bigger, better TF's.

I appreciate how scalping helps the common man, but your attitude is erroneously based on the product, not the principle. For example, would you scalp a bottle of water in a desert? Or a bag of food in a homeless alley? But this is a toy, so it's different? :???:

Anyway, I respect your opinion, but it emphasizes what I said in other posts: SDCC and Botcon are ELITIST EVENTS WHERE THE FEW GET TO ENJOY AND SCALP TO THE MANY (who can't afford the elitist privileges).

Of course, I am assuming that we're not all the same wealth on here, so feel free to counter-argue that money plays no role in this conversation. Certainly, you can say, that $250 for SDCC Metro is a fine price, as it's significantly less than actually being at SDCC and picking him up? :-?
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Ultra Markus » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:26 pm

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Ultra Markus wrote:good thing i ordered the retail version of metroplex on toys r us website earlier today
because now its not listed anymore!



you shoudl buy from BBTS its cheaper.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS22897&mode=retail

they dont do paypal on preorders plus toys r us ships free
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby mooncake623 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:26 pm

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Seibertron wrote:If you guys want a convention exclusive, you guys have to go to the convention. If you choose not to go to the convention, then don't complain about people who try to make a little money off some products at the event that they attended. It's the name of the game. These trips are extremely expensive. If someone wants to offset some of their costs by flipping some exclusives, then so be it. I'd know I'd like to recoup some of the $3,000+ my wife and I spent last week to attend Comic-Con on flights, hotels, food, my exclusives, the $140 to ship back my exclusives, etc.



Aren't these expenses tax write offs for you ? =X lol
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Metrosuplex » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:32 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:there was no free shipping on Exclusives at HTS. so its $150, $20 shipping, and around $15 tax. so i got mine for $185 in that 10 mins window. and I feel lucky.


Damn. That's crazy. I expected to pay more... but not some $75 more than Vanilla! :sad: Thanks for the info. I guess I don't feel TOO bad about this mess.

But seriously, I hate jumping through hoops to buy something. Businesses cater to customers, not the other way around. This whole fiasco is a big FAIL, IMO. I thought 3rd Parties were bad (with their high prices), but at least they're not a pain in the @$$ to get (even with production delays). A 3rd Party product will, for the most part, announce a release date and stick with it, in plentiful supply. Not always, but I've had good experiences. Certainly none of this, "ONLY AT THE CONVENTION!!!! BE THERE OR BE A LOSER, B*TCHES!!!" crap! :roll: I get that exclusivity and elitism are awesome (whatever), but when you make a product that difficult to get (and you have an excess of demand), well, it's artificial.

This is Hasbro doing what the diamond industry does - they could release more, but then the scalpers wouldn't be so tempted to buy so many at the convention! ;) In the end, I'd rather buy a 3rd Party Product than give a scalper the benefit of flipping a profit on a product they have no business profiting from.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Yotsuyasan » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:39 pm

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Seibertron wrote:If you guys want a convention exclusive, you guys have to go to the convention. If you choose not to go to the convention, then don't complain about people who try to make a little money off some products at the event that they attended. It's the name of the game. These trips are extremely expensive. If someone wants to offset some of their costs by flipping some exclusives, then so be it. I'd know I'd like to recoup some of the $3,000+ my wife and I spent last week to attend Comic-Con on flights, hotels, food, my exclusives, the $140 to ship back my exclusives, etc.


Wow... Just wow... I usually try to avoid arguing with the person who runs a website I like... But that is just a pig-headed and elitist attitude.

You know what? I wanted that exclusive. But yeah, I can't afford Comic Con. You can? Awesome for you. And if this was just a Comic Con exclusive, then fine, I'd have never gotten up any hope of getting this.

But it was an exclusive to Comic-Con and the Hasbro website. So theoretically, it was supposed to be available in two places. And one of those, I can afford. (Visiting a website is free! Just have to pay for the toy.)

But an unannounced 10 minute window of opportunity? That's not availability. That's a lottery of dumb luck. (Don't get me wrong, I knew that the chances of getting it online might be small... But there's a difference between small and dumb luck miniscule.) To those who got him (and who aren't scalpers), awesome. Good on you. But bad on Hasbro for their piss-poor lack of online availability, and (expletive deleted) you for saying it's my fault I don't get it because I can't afford the time and money to go to an expensive as all hell event that I wouldn't have any interest in beyond Metroplex, anyway... Especially when it should have in theory been available on their website.

I wish I could be repentant of the tone of the above... And I hope it doesn't get me banned, or result in a thread lock or anything... But damn it, your post pissed me off with its tone. If it is worth anything, I'm done with this thread.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby megatronus » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:03 pm

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Seibertron wrote:If you guys want a convention exclusive, you guys have to go to the convention. If you choose not to go to the convention, then don't complain about people who try to make a little money off some products at the event that they attended. It's the name of the game. These trips are extremely expensive. If someone wants to offset some of their costs by flipping some exclusives, then so be it. I'd know I'd like to recoup some of the $3,000+ my wife and I spent last week to attend Comic-Con on flights, hotels, food, my exclusives, the $140 to ship back my exclusives, etc.


Excuse me for being curt, but that's easy for you to say given that that's your job. Not everyone has the "choice," as you put it, and I'm not sure I appreciate the elitist tone you're taking.

And this is is coming from someone who has definitely flipped a piece or two for a quick buck.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Pigbeard » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:20 pm

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There's really no way for Hasbro to filter out scalpers on exclusives (which should be limited release). The only thing (that I can think of) is to be secretive about when the toys will be available on the site, which they do, but people complain about that too. I spent 5 hours at my computer this morning after a 12 hour shift of work, literally refreshing once or more a minute while watching some tele... I've done this the last 3 years and had success in getting the items I wanted. It sucks, but that's what you gotta do if you want them bad enough. I don't see anyway to be rid of scalping, so why complain? Pay the extra hundred for metro or have a terrible Wednesday once a year like I do! :HEADHURTS:
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

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Yotsuyasan wrote:I wish I could be repentant of the tone of the above... And I hope it doesn't get me banned, or result in a thread lock or anything...


You won't get banned for disagreeing with the site owner, that's not how we operate. We welcome discussion, and everyone is entitled to and welcome to voice their opinion provided it's done in a civil manner.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:32 pm

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Yotsuyasan wrote:But it was an exclusive to Comic-Con and the Hasbro website. So theoretically, it was supposed to be available in two places. And one of those, I can afford. (Visiting a website is free! Just have to pay for the toy.)


It's a Comic-Con exclusive. Any leftovers would be sold at HasbroToyShop.com.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Yotsuyasan » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:37 pm

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Yotsuyasan wrote:I wish I could be repentant of the tone of the above... And I hope it doesn't get me banned, or result in a thread lock or anything...


You won't get banned for disagreeing with the site owner, that's not how we operate. We welcome discussion, and everyone is entitled to and welcome to voice their opinion provided it's done in a civil manner.


I know I said I was done with this thread... But just to answer that, my worry was about where I did more then just disagree with him... I said, "(expletive deleted) you," to him. Yes, I at least censored myself, but I thought it was still petty clear that my sentiment was a bit stronger then, "darn you."

And usually I don't like to go around saying such things to people in forums... Site owner or not! And if I went around throwing about random "F-you"s to every Tom, Dick, and Harry I disagreed with... well, then I should be banned! But... in this case... Well, I had no other or softer words that I felt would adequately express my feelings on the matter... And that is kind of rare for me. (Heck, people I know in real life are shocked if I swear, noting that it is atypical of my language.)

As you said, "provided it is done in civil matter." And I would be the first to agree with you that my post failed at being civil. Hence, my worry. But, well... Sometimes, on rare occasion, you feel you need to say a thing, even if it might not seem the most rational thing to say.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:44 pm

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Yotsuyasan wrote:I wish I could be repentant of the tone of the above... And I hope it doesn't get me banned, or result in a thread lock or anything...


You won't get banned for disagreeing with the site owner, that's not how we operate. We welcome discussion, and everyone is entitled to and welcome to voice their opinion provided it's done in a civil manner.


I know my opinion is not popular with those who really wanted this variant but were unable to attend it. I understand that it is frustrating when you can't get your hands on an exclusive.

I spent about 3 hours last week trying to get my hands on TRU Masterpiece Soundwave. I jumped through all sorts of hoops to get it and in the end, it was just sheer dumb like and being in the right spot at the right time that let me land that set.

Blaming so called "scalpers" is the easy route. Figuring out how to beat the system is the real challenge.

Sometimes when you really want a figure that you know in advance will be hard to get, you have to tell yourself that you will have to pay more than the original selling price. The $150 plus tax price was for people who got it at the show, or for the few lucky ones that were able to get it on HasbroToyShop.com. Thinking that you can get it for that price on such a high demand convention only exclusive is nothing but wishful thinking. It's being unrealistic about the situation and just leads to anger and frustration over something that is, at the end of the day, just a toy.

Just a little food for thought, including tax it was $162. Shipping is around $30+ on an item like this with FedEx or UPS but only if you have a box and tape. If you have FedEx or UPS package the item for you (which is what usually happens at a show like this), they charge an additional $15 to $20 for packaging and handling fees. Metroplex is really a $200+ toy if you purchased it at SDCC and had to ship it back to where you live.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:49 pm

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Metrosuplex wrote:Anyway, I respect your opinion, but it emphasizes what I said in other posts: SDCC and Botcon are ELITIST EVENTS WHERE THE FEW GET TO ENJOY AND SCALP TO THE MANY (who can't afford the elitist privileges).


Collecting toys and other unessential commodities would be considered elitist by many people throughout the world. These are most definitely first world problems. Not being able to get SDCC Metroplex is not the end of the world. Prices will drop once the item is released at the upcoming Asian convention where it will be sold as well. I'm sure this won't be the last time we see this variant sold somewhere.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:51 pm

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Seibertron wrote:If you guys want a convention exclusive, you guys have to go to the convention. If you choose not to go to the convention, then don't complain about people who try to make a little money off some products at the event that they attended. It's the name of the game. These trips are extremely expensive. If someone wants to offset some of their costs by flipping some exclusives, then so be it. I'd know I'd like to recoup some of the $3,000+ my wife and I spent last week to attend Comic-Con on flights, hotels, food, my exclusives, the $140 to ship back my exclusives, etc.



Aren't these expenses tax write offs for you ? =X lol


Yes, they are tax write offs for me. However, it's still an expense and still costs money, especially on the scale with which I purchase Transformers toys.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby megatronus » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:03 am

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Seibertron/Ryan - I just want to dissect your statement, because I feel that an indignant tone (on my part, anyway) doesn't do anyone any good:

Seibertron wrote:If you guys want a convention exclusive, you guys have to go to the convention.

Reading back, I think you sound completely reasonable here. People should be used to your relatively "rigid" approach to TF issues by now (i.e. it's not a TF unless branded as such, if you want the exclusive go to the convention, etc.). These are the facts of life.

Seibertron wrote:If you choose not to go to the convention, then don't complain about people who try to make a little money off some products at the event that they attended. It's the name of the game. These trips are extremely expensive. If someone wants to offset some of their costs by flipping some exclusives, then so be it.

It's here that you start pushing buttons. As I said, it's not always a choice. It's sometimes assumed that just because there is expendable income to spend on some toys, it means we should have the means to splurge on a convention. It aint always so, and it doesn't feel so great to be reminded it aint always so. Or to "blame the victim," as it were.

That said, I do understand the desire to flip figures to help fund other things, and unfortunately, it's all too easy to point the finger at such people. Just like blaming Hasbro for every little thing gives frustrated people a scapegoat to pin things on. It's not always justified, but it does speak to the fact that the community is not necessarily being served efficiently. Even with mass releases, like TRU's MPs Prime & Soundwave, we see a stunning lack of operational savvy that results in upset fans almost everywhere.

Seibertron wrote:I'd know I'd like to recoup some of the $3,000+ my wife and I spent last week to attend Comic-Con on flights, hotels, food, my exclusives, the $140 to ship back my exclusives, etc.

Mention of money is the trigger. Many people simply don't have the means to participate in a trip of SDCC's magnitude, and your statement displayed some insensitivity to this.
Yes, I know there's a retail version of Metroplex available (and I plan on getting him!). Yes, I know that the SDCC variant is a convention exclusive. BUT, I don't want to be, and don't think I should be, told that if I want to buy Metroplex, that I should be spending an additional $3,000+ to have the opportunity to do so. Again, not everyone has that scratch. Facts of life? Maybe. Doesn't mean you have to rub it in. Being a TF fan and site owner has its advantages, and such a person complaining about costs related to a (perceived) dream job seems... out of touch.

It also makes you sound like you fall on the side of Hasbro in its inability (bad) or unwillingness (worse) to cater to a wide swath of collectors that crave a more widely accessible, official channel through which we can acquire premium products like this one. And I don't mean an exclusive channel like SDCC, or a limited 10 minute window of random online opportunity.

You have long been an advocate for this sort of thing - that is, actually giving the collectors what they want (or at least my Twincast Podcast listening makes me feel like you've been a collector advocate), and your statement above makes it seem just the opposite.

So yea... from where I stand, that's what this is about.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:04 am

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Seibertron wrote:If you guys want a convention exclusive, you guys have to go to the convention. If you choose not to go to the convention, then don't complain about people who try to make a little money off some products at the event that they attended. It's the name of the game. These trips are extremely expensive. If someone wants to offset some of their costs by flipping some exclusives, then so be it. I'd know I'd like to recoup some of the $3,000+ my wife and I spent last week to attend Comic-Con on flights, hotels, food, my exclusives, the $140 to ship back my exclusives, etc.


Wow... Just wow... I usually try to avoid arguing with the person who runs a website I like... But that is just a pig-headed and elitist attitude.


There was nothing elitist or pig headed about my attitude. I was addressing the other side of the coin and playing devil's advocate. I see a lot of people attacking and saying unpleasant things about people who attend events like BotCon and SDCC that try to make some money by flipping products to offset costs. There's more to the picture than you guys are debating. All I'm asking is that those of you who are really upset that you can't get your hands on SDCC Metroplex yet, just try to take a moment to understand the other side.

Ultimately, the real issue is supply and demand, but then again, isn't that part of the fun of all of this? If there was too much supply, the brand would die off and that'd be the end of all of this. Having just enough supply, or just under, to meet the demand, is what keeps all of this interesting.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:19 am

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megatronus wrote:It also makes you sound like you fall on the side of Hasbro in its inability (bad) or unwillingness (worse) to cater to a wide swath of collectors that crave a more widely accessible, official channel through which we can acquire premium products like this one. And I don't mean an exclusive channel like SDCC, or a limited 10 minute window of random online opportunity.

You have long been an advocate for this sort of thing - that is, actually giving the collectors what they want (or at least my Twincast Podcast listening makes me feel like you've been a collector advocate), and your statement above makes it seem just the opposite.

So yea... from where I stand, that's what this is about.


Your dissection of my comments all seem like fairly logical responses to my comments. I appreciate you taking the time to read between the lines.

I don't think Hasbro has an inability or an unwillingness to cater to a wide swath of collectors. I think Hasbro has done a pretty good job of doing this. Do we want more? You bet we do. Compared to where we were at 10 years ago, we are getting a ton collector oriented products that the market probably wouldn't have been able to support pre movies. Is there room for improvement? You bet! Having discussions about ideas for improvements on this forum is a great place to start. Hasbro definitely reads our forums from time-to-time so it's definitely a way to get your thoughts read by them.

I also feel like there should be convention exclusives that are just that ... convention exclusives. What's the point of having convention exclusives if they are widely available elsewhere? The point of the convention exclusive is two fold: to draw attention to the event itself and to create a demand to attend the event. BotCon failed to get people in the doors this year and I believe that is in part to making convention sets and leftover exclusives available to people who did not attend. There shouldn't be a non-attending set. It takes away from the experience of going to the convention.

If some of you think that's an elitist comment, then there is probably little that I can do to change your opinion. It is not meant to be an elitist comment. I'm just on the other side of the coin here where I do attend all of these events and I do whatever I have to do to make sure that I'm there because it's important to me as a collector and because of Seibertron.com.

Attending these events and getting the exclusive products that are sold at conventions is part of the appeal ... that's the whole idea behind convention exclusives. Make them easy to obtain for non-attendees? Then what's the point of having an exclusive at all? Might as well just make it a retail product that's sold at big box stores.
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Re: SDCC 2013 Transformers Exclusives Revealed

Postby Seibertron » Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:32 am

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megatronus wrote:Excuse me for being curt, but that's easy for you to say given that that's your job. Not everyone has the "choice," as you put it, and I'm not sure I appreciate the elitist tone you're taking.


I'm not being elitist. I'm just trying to get some of you to maybe understand the other side of all of this. Also, this wasn't always my primary job yet I still was able to figure out how to get what I want. Don't let my ownership of this site fool you, I have to work my butt off to get most of this stuff just like you guys. Yes, I get the occasional Transformers products from Hasbro (maybe 5 to 10 per year), but outside of that, I have to jump through all of the hoops like you guys do.
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