Doc bot wrote:I'm actually happy to hear this. I've lapsed on watching Prime since it's overall pretty boring. I actually don't like this rendition of Optimus. He's very one dimensional and just depressing to watch. He isn't allowed to have fun which I think puts off kids. Animated's Prime was far more interesting since we actually saw character growth and he had more emotion. Don't even get me started on the whole Bumblebee not speaking thing. What a bad idea. He was instantly turned into a minor background character.
Thinking about this topic makes me appreciate Animated more. It balanced kid-friendliness, storytelling, fan service and character development pretty well.
^ This is important.IGN: I don’t know if you’ve heard of cynical people on the Internet, but they do exist. You know that some adult fans will say, “Oh, they’re going to make it a total kid thing now. It’s going to just be for kids!” What would you say to that, as far as the balance you’re looking to strike?
Orci: I would say that clever wit always makes it something more adult. I think the look of it, you may find, is more kid-friendly. But we certainly don’t intend to be any less entertaining or any less Transformers. But there is a little bit of truth to that. I won’t deny that also, yes, we’re trying to make sure that younger kids who really love Transformers aren’t put off by its intensity.
Aaaaaaaand, this right here is exactly why you're not in the business of making children's shows.Superwheeljack wrote:If they make anything like animated, I'll have to stop collecting transformers for another 4 years, like in 2006.
Make more violent transformers shows. I don't care about family entertainment, there needs to be more shows like prime, where heads go
I may be messed up, but wars are violent. People get their limbs blown off. Make it realistic.
How can they "dumb down" what doesn't even exist yet?omega666 wrote:So these 2 are back and they want to dumb the next series down for kids. Great.
The extreme violence and oversaturation of arbitrary death?hinomars19 wrote:But that's kinda my point, what wasn't/ isn't kid friendly about Prime?
I take it you don't watch Rescue Bots at all, do you?hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, Transformers is for kids, but there is a difference between how TF is usually handled and 'kiddy' shows like rescue bots, right?
Sad, but true.hinomars19 wrote:So a few are over reacting about something that doesn't exist yet. 'Tis the internet. It happens
TK415 wrote:Beast Wars and Animated were both very kid friendly and both enjoyable for Adults.
Says the boy who loves the highly kid-friendly Animated cartoon.SlyTF1 wrote:Well, this is going to suck... There will probably be no Decepticon wins whatsoever, and every episode will be just as predictable as every episode in TF Prime.
Your wish shall be granted.njb902 wrote:The one thing I do wish is for them to ditch the cgi. They could take the money spent on the cgi and give us a bigger cast.
Baka! If the new TF cartoon is as any bit as good as the current TMNT cartoon, that would frankly be a godsend to the TF brand. That TMNT cartoon is so good it's universally beloved by Turtles fans of all ages.Metrosuplex wrote:The new cartoon will aim to capture kids like TMNT has, and I , quite frankly, hope it fails.
Where in this interview does it say that they want to make the new show like a campy 1980's cartoon?chaosmage42 wrote:ok upgrade bad feeling to disturbance in the force. Seriously how can any one look at this and say ok we have good tv show has good rating but you know what we should dumb it down to the level of 1980 complexity and make it a really kiddy show -didn't work for toonami won't work here. I would say lower expectations.
Always have been, always will be. That's just the way it is.Metrosuplex wrote:njb902 wrote:
Kids are their real customers.
I expected you to say something a little better than that!
Why do you say kids are the real customer? Is it because Hasbro told you?
For me, it's not because they weren't the stars, it's that they simply were not interesting for the most part. In Animated, both were very fascinating characters full of so much life and energy, but they weren't the stars either. It was a group effort of Optimus, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Ratchet, Prowl, and Sari who were all stars equally.Metrosuplex wrote:Doc bot wrote:I'm actually happy to hear this. I've lapsed on watching Prime since it's overall pretty boring. I actually don't like this rendition of Optimus. He's very one dimensional and just depressing to watch. He isn't allowed to have fun which I think puts off kids. Animated's Prime was far more interesting since we actually saw character growth and he had more emotion. Don't even get me started on the whole Bumblebee not speaking thing. What a bad idea. He was instantly turned into a minor background character.
Thinking about this topic makes me appreciate Animated more. It balanced kid-friendliness, storytelling, fan service and character development pretty well.
I didn't watch animated so take this with a grain of salt, but.... it sounds like you're complaining that BB and Optimus weren't the stars. Personally, I liked that - one of the only TF series with a focus on OTHER characters. But don't worry: Hasbro's got your back with the BB /Optimus fetish!
Silly Wolf, TFs are for kids.Megatron Wolf wrote:son of a bitch, the hope of finally getting a good TF series has been shot down yet again. Well lets just hope Prime gets a personality this time around and the kids arent annoying. Oh & for the love of god lose the bayformer look. But on another note why do we need a kid friendly transformers, isnt that rescue bots job?
TimothyR wrote:are you ____ing kidding me? .. kids are put off by an "intense" cartoon.. are you serious?
there are enough stupid ass annoying kids shows on the air as it is. i think transformers can be geared more towards early teens rather than children.
i bet this will mean some pretty crappy toys.. and who knows.. in the near future you'll only be able to find transformers toys in the fisher price aisle. maybe generations will have one or two pegs.. but other than that. ..
it'll be sad. here's hoping that the movie line spits out some good toys. i'm sure it will. every movie line so far have had a few really great toys.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Uh, yeah.Rated X wrote:"will be more geared toward a younger audience"
Can you get any more "younger" than TF Prime without it being Rescue bots or Animated ???
In other words, Spongebob with Transformers.Rated X wrote:How about you just give us G1 using the classics line as the animation models with all new stories ? No more sagas, just a full season of 30 minute adventures that aren't really linked to each other so you can watch them in any order.
Don't worry, 2D animation is a go.Rated X wrote:And screw CG graphics ! Go with regular animation so we can get 50 characters instead of 15.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
"Is". Season 2 is coming this Winter.megatronus wrote:Rescue Bots was a great show,
But... but Animated's toys were fantastic. Supremely show-accurate and loaded with articulation and fun features.MINDVVIPE wrote:The toys probably will suck if they are too kiddish, like animated, but I'm sure Generations will keep us going.
You, Sir, have a good head on your shoulders.MINDVVIPE wrote:I, of all people, want a super brutal, gorey (if on earth), violent transformers series or movie that takes all the good from all the shows, and steps it up into this realistic story during the ongoing (main/initial) war between and .
But its just not going to happen.
MINDVVIPE wrote:I HOPE we get something thats as good, story wise as animated, coz even though prime was great in a lot of ways, it still had many episodes that felt too commercialized and hollow in general, and was missing the heart that was in both Beast Wars and Animated.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
And from personal consultation with several of those parents, it was something that they regretting doing.ILL-Star wrote:Too much intensity? Parents go take their kids to see the live action movies.
Yeah, the Kindergarteners. With TF: Prime targeting teenagers and the movies targeting adults, what is there left for the grade schoolers?ILL-Star wrote:And besides, isn't Rescue Bots around to satisfy the younger audience?
Oh, well, see, for some bizarre reason, Hasbro isn't releasing season 2 until over a YEAR after season 1 ended, so it kinda seems like Hasbro doesn't really care all that much about it, in spite of its critical praise.ILL-Star wrote: Is it not doing well? I think there are people over 18 who watch that for cryin out loud.
RiD was fun, Armada had a bad script, Energon had a bad everything, Cybertron was good, and Animated was superior to Prime.ILL-Star wrote:But in the end, if it has a good storyline and great characters and isn't RID , Unicron Trilogy , or Animated stupid , I'm happy.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
the next series will be more geared toward a younger audience it is not a reboot and it will take place within the Transformers Prime continuity
Ravage XK wrote:Why not go for 3 shows. Rescue Bots for the really young kids, a replacement for Prime for the next age bracket and then something for the older fans that can be darker and intense.
Transformers has the potential to appeal to a wide age range (as we all know) so why not have a proper 45min or hour long show for prime time entertainment?
Sodan-1 wrote:Somebody could argue that the movies is what Hasbro has for the older fans that like things dark and intense.
Personally I find the movies insulting on a few levels, and I've no shame telling non-Transformers fans that I'll happily watch PRIME over the movies any time of the day.
leokearon wrote:the next series will be more geared toward a younger audience it is not a reboot and it will take place within the Transformers Prime continuity
That already exists it's called Rescue Bots, for a guy who writes about Transformers he sure doesn't know anything about Transformers.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
There are four age groups to consider here: Little kids, big kids, teenagers, and adults.leokearon wrote:the next series will be more geared toward a younger audience it is not a reboot and it will take place within the Transformers Prime continuity
That already exists it's called Rescue Bots, for a guy who writes about Transformers he sure doesn't know anything about Transformers.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Uh, yeah.Rated X wrote:"will be more geared toward a younger audience"
Can you get any more "younger" than TF Prime without it being Rescue bots or Animated ???
TF: Prime was barely kid-friendly.In other words, Spongebob with Transformers.Rated X wrote:How about you just give us G1 using the classics line as the animation models with all new stories ? No more sagas, just a full season of 30 minute adventures that aren't really linked to each other so you can watch them in any order.Don't worry, 2D animation is a go.Rated X wrote:And screw CG graphics ! Go with regular animation so we can get 50 characters instead of 15.
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