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Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby El Duque » Tue Oct 29, 2013 10:49 pm

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Site sponsor BigBadToyStore has listed pre-orders for Voyager Wave 1 in Hasbro's upcoming simplified Transformers Prime Beast Hunters line, which features brand new molds of Optimus Prime and Predaking. These simplified molds allow for faster transformations. Wave 1 is scheduled to arrive in December. These figures were on display at BotCon 2013, check out our event images below or the full gallery can be found by clicking here.

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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby mooncake623 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:24 pm

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Shouldn't they be cheaper than that? I thought the whole point of up-sizing these is to make it simpler and cheaper(then normal voyagers)?
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Postby Wolfman Jake » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:36 pm

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That new Optimus Prime mold would have been mildly tempting had Hasbro not ruined it with that neon-green grill and back kibble. Yuck.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby That Bot » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:37 pm

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Cheaper production at the same retail price means a bigger profit margin.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby Bumblevivisector » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:44 pm

mooncake623 wrote:Shouldn't they be cheaper than that? I thought the whole point of up-sizing these is to make it simpler and cheaper(then normal voyagers)?
Simpler, yes.

Cheaper? Nah, what That Bot said about more profit for lower production cost at the same retail price. It's just following a trend I've seen with, say, that ugly wave of 5-joint Avengers toys that's retailing for about the price super-articulated 3.75" Joe and Marvel Legend figures used to just a few years ago, while the good ones collectors want are going for +$10. The bulk of toy sales are parents who don't know the difference buying for little kids who wouldn't really appreciate intricate detail and articulation anyway, so it's a logical cost-cutting move to offset creeping plastic prices. As long as we can tell the difference, they'll still make enough of what we want.

I am a little confused about these being "new" molds; was someone jumping to conclusions about actual Cyberverse upscaling and retooling before? I was hoping that Commander-to-Voyager trends would give us proper Insecticons, but if these are genuinely new sculpts, I can probably abandon all legal hope and go back to waiting for KO companies to take the hint.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby Megatron Wolf » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:49 pm

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mooncake623 wrote:Shouldn't they be cheaper than that? I thought the whole point of up-sizing these is to make it simpler and cheaper(then normal voyagers)?


your actually surprised at this, this is hasbro afterall. The point of these is to make them more money while spending less not help us the consumer out by giving us a quality product for a reasonable price.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby skidflap » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:52 pm

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I would get these for customizing. i see a thunderclash coming out of that mold. ;)
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby omega666 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 11:54 pm

Megatron Wolf wrote:
mooncake623 wrote:Shouldn't they be cheaper than that? I thought the whole point of up-sizing these is to make it simpler and cheaper(then normal voyagers)?


your actually surprised at this, this is hasbro afterall. The point of these is to make them more money while spending less not help us the consumer out by giving us a quality product for a reasonable price.


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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby BIGGUY007 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:19 am

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So we're basically getting Cyberverse Figures on Steroids? Nice Hasbro! :BANG_HEAD: :HEADHURTS:

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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby EagleTron » Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:46 am

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That Predaking looks alrit to me. It might even look better than the original voyager. It has more color cooler looking wings with the translucent plastic, more paint, and I don't see them twin dragon head gun things that were shadowing the main dragon head. But one thing I don't like is the simpling down part. Sounds like they might have took out that one of a kind of way that the first voyager legs transformed. Thats kind of a trade off for the additions . But overall not bad. Oh and I'm sure it is more articulate than the other one.
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Postby Mykltron » Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:08 am

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mooncake623 wrote:Shouldn't they be cheaper than that? I thought the whole point of up-sizing these is to make it simpler and cheaper(then normal voyagers)?


One needs only to compare same scale Megatrons and Optimuses to see that we don't pay for the amount of joints or the effort that goes into the design. Looking at TFA and ROTF toys suggests we don't even pay for size either but the NAME OF THE SIZE CLASS.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:21 am

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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby GuyIncognito » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:43 am

I guess Hasbro is taking cues from the KO companies now.
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Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:26 am

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Bumblevivisector wrote:I am a little confused about these being "new" molds; was someone jumping to conclusions about actual Cyberverse upscaling and retooling before? I was hoping that Commander-to-Voyager trends would give us proper Insecticons, but if these are genuinely new sculpts, I can probably abandon all legal hope and go back to waiting for KO companies to take the hint.


Not quite. Optimus Prime is definitely an upsized Cyberverse design, with some joints replaced with swivels, or swivels added. Predaking, from what I can tell, is all new, but takes some cues from either Beast Fire or Commander Predaking.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby Noideaforaname » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:04 am

Looks like this Predaking started out as an upsized Commander (the transformation scheme is identical), but somebody (wisely) went and retouched every detail and completely redid the tail weapon. Which is great since the Commander has feathery wings, practically slithers on it's belly, and has a really poorly detailed face that looks more like a rooster's than the King of Predacons'.

Now if only they did that amount of work for the other upscaled Cyberverse figures. And if only they didn't pick characters that are already done plenty of times over.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby wolverinetodd » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:44 am

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Personally I hope this line fails and fails miserably and those responsible for this idea are beheaded, or at the very least fired, as well as those that fully supported the idea. Less articulation for the same price... NOT!

If you want simpler transformations, then buy a preschool age Transformer Rescuebot. Don't go messing up my Deluxe and Voyager lines.

Now I do like the idea of possibly upsizing all five of the Cyberverse Terrorcons into Deluxe size just to get a decent sized Abominous. As it is right now, only Sinnertwin and Cutthroat are getting the upsizing treatment and I'll likely buy them just for the size factor and the possibility of creating Abominous. Of course if the line fails miserably as I hope, then we'll likely not see Blot, Hun-Grr, or Ripper Snapper upsized to Deluxe. But then, when has HasTak not beaten a dead horse.

As it stands now, if I want an amazing, humongous Abominous created from five Terrorcons, then I'll have to put my faith in the 3rd Party groups (preferably Mastermind Creations) to make one, regardless of the price. The 3rd party groups seem to be the only ones to get these Transformers right for us diehard fans while HasTak continues to fail us at every turn and these upsized Cyberverse figures are proof of that.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:55 am

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wolverinetodd wrote:Now I do like the idea of possibly upsizing all five of the Cyberverse Terrorcons into Deluxe size just to get a decent sized Abominous. As it is right now, only Sinnertwin and Cutthroat are getting the upsizing treatment and I'll likely buy them just for the size factor and the possibility of creating Abominous. Of course if the line fails miserably as I hope, then we'll likely not see Blot, Hun-Grr, or Ripper Snapper upsized to Deluxe. But then, when has HasTak not beaten a dead horse.


Hate to burst your bubble, but the upsized Terrorcons have the connectors removed: even if all 5 were to be released (which I doubt, I think we're only getting a single wave), you cannot form Abominus.
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Postby ArmadaPrime » Wed Oct 30, 2013 11:19 am

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You know what I would like? That predaking to be down-scaled again to give us a decent commander class.
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Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:58 pm

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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby That Bot » Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:05 am

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wolverinetodd wrote:If you want simpler transformations, then buy a preschool age Transformer Rescuebot. Don't go messing up my Deluxe and Voyager lines.

They stated at SDCC that these figures are meant to bridge a gap between one-step transformers like Rescue Bots and the more complex deluxe stuff. In other words, they're targeted at a younger age group than normal.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:56 am

Let's not forget how simple our G1 figures were. Simpler transformations are better for kids, and that will help draw more kids into Transformers. As long as this is a separate line and not replacing the "normal" figures, I'm fine with it. In fact, I LIKE the idea, a lot! If I had a kid who was into TFs, I'd rather buy them a simple version of Voyager BH OP than a RescueBot.
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Postby Sabrblade » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:07 am

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GuyIncognito wrote:As long as this is a separate line and not replacing the "normal" figures, I'm fine with it.
Well, these are gonna be the "normal" figures. After the waves with Prowl and Night Shadow Bumblebee and Sharkticon Megatron, these figures will be the next wave of the main BH line.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby GuyIncognito » Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:11 am

Sabrblade wrote:
GuyIncognito wrote:As long as this is a separate line and not replacing the "normal" figures, I'm fine with it.
Well, these are gonna be the "normal" figures. After the waves with Prowl and Night Shadow Bumblebee and Sharkticon Megatron, these figures will be the next wave of the main BH line.


That's still OK because we already got the "normal" versions of these figures. These are like alternate versions. What I meant was that if ALL figures were like this from now on, I'd be upset. If the Generations figures were simplified, I'd be upset. But I have no problem with them upscaling figures we already have to make a new version for kids.
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Re: Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Simplified Voyager Wave 1 Available for Pre-Order

Postby El Duque » Sun Nov 03, 2013 9:30 am

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Courtesy of Entertainment Earth we have our first in-package images of Hasbro's upcoming Transformers Prime Beast Hunters simplified Voyagers Optimus Prime and Predaking. These new Voyagers will allow for speedier transformations during play. These were initially announced at BotCon 2013 along with a line of simplified Deluxes, which includes Bumblebee, Smokescreen, and Twinstrike. Our gallery of these of images from the show floor can be found here.

Optimus Prime and Predaking are due to release in December.

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