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Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Aluus » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:36 pm

Seriously, was it so hard to give us a decent helicopter bot the first time? I just picked up ROTF Blaze master today, zero kibble in helicopter mode, nice bot mode. arms need a little more detail i think, the hands are too much like jazz's. SAME BLOODY ROTOR SPINNING GIMMICK AS BLACKOUT. However, this gimmick is located in his arm only as opposed to being a clunky untransformed piece of helicopter on his back. i mean seriously, HOW HARD WAS THIS?

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Here's the seibertron image. colors on the final product are a little different and according to the directions he's slightly mistransformed.

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Here's the final product. the rotor blades do NOT stay in place even remotely as shown on the original pic, so i decided to use them as swords.
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Tyrannotaur » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:48 pm

Motto: "What does not kill me makes me stronger."
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Blaze Master is good. Amazing Alt mode. He should be repainted to a police chopper.

Blackout is easily my favorite Decepticon from the first film but his toy is mediocre. He is too small, has half a helicopter on his back and doesn't really look at all like the movie version. I hope that Hasbro uses their design for Animated blackout and uses it toward a leader Grindor, which is then repainted as Blackout. Have his hands become the helicopter tail, the cockpit splits and becomes his chest and his head comes out of that, His legs form the body, and the rotors sit on his back. Really not hard. If the guys at hasbro can design leader prime they could do that. No excuse. Now I realize they make the toys based of concept art and early stuff from the movies, but still I had better hopes for a Blackout toy. Hopefully once they are done rereleasing it 5 times they will make a better version of him. I don't see why Brawl was more deserving of a bigger mold and Blackout wasn't.

eh.. I'm done.
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Blurrz » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:49 pm

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The 'swords' idea looks pretty sweet. I think i'll do the same when I get the figure too!
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Aluus » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:56 pm

I can see him being repainted as Springer using the blades as swords. Anyone else? I picked up Jolt today too, but I am rather disappointed. He feels kinda "meh" when i transform him, similar to TF2007 Stockade, but does not look nearly as kewl. I noticed Sideways seems to be the most unpopular ROTF figure. The target i was at literally had 75% of their deluxe spaces filled with him. about 40 in all.
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Tyrannotaur » Thu Aug 13, 2009 6:05 pm

Motto: "What does not kill me makes me stronger."
Weapon: Fusion Cannon
Aluus wrote:I can see him being repainted as Springer using the blades as swords. Anyone else? I picked up Jolt today too, but I am rather disappointed. He feels kinda "meh" when i transform him, similar to TF2007 Stockade, but does not look nearly as kewl. I noticed Sideways seems to be the most unpopular ROTF figure. The target i was at literally had 75% of their deluxe spaces filled with him. about 40 in all.


I'd say number johnny five... I mean Wheelie is the most unpopular. At least on long island. Every single store has at least 19 of him. No one likes Wheelie. Maybe because he is as tall as Ratchet? Hmmmmm
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Cobalt Prime » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:35 pm

Motto: ""Excessive force is not necessary.""
Blurrz wrote:The 'swords' idea looks pretty sweet. I think i'll do the same when I get the figure too!


I'll second that! Mine looks 100% better now. Thanks for the idea! :APPLAUSE:
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Jacob P. Galvatron » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:36 pm

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Tyrannotaur wrote:
Aluus wrote:I can see him being repainted as Springer using the blades as swords. Anyone else? I picked up Jolt today too, but I am rather disappointed. He feels kinda "meh" when i transform him, similar to TF2007 Stockade, but does not look nearly as kewl. I noticed Sideways seems to be the most unpopular ROTF figure. The target i was at literally had 75% of their deluxe spaces filled with him. about 40 in all.


I'd say number johnny five... I mean Wheelie is the most unpopular. At least on long island. Every single store has at least 19 of him. No one likes Wheelie. Maybe because he is as tall as Ratchet? Hmmmmm

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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby TulioDude » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:10 pm

Motto: "Never doubt the awesomess."
Weapon: Energo-Sword
Blackout had one of the best scenes in the move. :)
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby shonenfan4 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:08 pm

Weapon: Fusion Blaster Cannon
My only complaint for the robot mode of Blazemaster is his legs, can't stand them. And yeah, my local Target is filled with Wheelies and Chromias, though after picking up Arcee today, I might go and pick up a Chromia just to complete the motor sisters.
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby skywarp-2 » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:11 pm

swords make him look like a buy for sure, just one thing, can you take a clearer picture??
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby tom brokaw » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:57 pm

im sure hes awesome, but i dont like those skinny legs.... still imo, blazemaster < blackout
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 2:38 am

Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
Tyrannotaur wrote:Blaze Master is good. Amazing Alt mode. He should be repainted to a police chopper.

Blackout is easily my favorite Decepticon from the first film but his toy is mediocre. He is too small, has half a helicopter on his back and doesn't really look at all like the movie version. I hope that Hasbro uses their design for Animated blackout and uses it toward a leader Grindor, which is then repainted as Blackout. Have his hands become the helicopter tail, the cockpit splits and becomes his chest and his head comes out of that, His legs form the body, and the rotors sit on his back. Really not hard. If the guys at hasbro can design leader prime they could do that. No excuse. Now I realize they make the toys based of concept art and early stuff from the movies, but still I had better hopes for a Blackout toy. Hopefully once they are done rereleasing it 5 times they will make a better version of him. I don't see why Brawl was more deserving of a bigger mold and Blackout wasn't.

eh.. I'm done.


I bought Voyager Blackout, and he's among one of my favorites. Unfortunately, he's another victim of Hasbro gimmicks--the designer had to compromise a figure's aesthetics with the compulsory gimmicks, apparently to give more value to the toy. IMO, the Blackout's back kibble could have been easily rectified by incorporating his tail transformation into his legs. The little rubber Scorponok could have been stored in the engine, just like in the movie. But then, they had come up with that silly rotor blade gimmick, which meant his entire back, right down to the tail rotors, had to be kept intact to accommodate the spring and gears.

In the case of Blaze Master, the thin grasshopper legs really make a joke out of him, despite the excellent alt mode. Pity.
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby tom brokaw » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:00 am

allspark incinerator was a pretty good bot 'copter.... aside from the fact he has no hands
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Hip-Hoptimus Rime » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:26 pm

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Weapon: Reciprocating Laser Cannon
I like Blackout much more than Blaze Master. I'm thinking of selling BM, he's just way too fiddly for such a small fig. Blackout is just mean-looking, and I like his transformation, tail kibble and all. BM just doesn't strike me as a warrior.
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Convotron » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:41 pm

Motto: "When in doubt, transform and roll out!"
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I love Transformers with helicopter alt modes. Blaze Master is cool but I think I'm going to get Grindor instead.
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Firebird » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:43 pm

Weapon: Blinding Black Light Beam Gun
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Firebird » Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:45 pm

Weapon: Blinding Black Light Beam Gun
What's so bad about Blackout? Sure he has half a helicopter on his back, His automorph is super easy to break, and most deluxes are taller than him.

But at least he has fully functional arms and legs :P
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby tom brokaw » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:11 pm

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:.... BM just doesn't strike me as a warrior.

of course not, he's a news reporter :P
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby shonenfan4 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:32 pm

Weapon: Fusion Blaster Cannon
Blazemaster might be a news helicoper but he drops melting acid on Decepticon's heads (source: check back of the card) :P
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Re: Blaze Master > Blackout

Postby Aluus » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:16 am

skywarp-2 wrote:swords make him look like a buy for sure, just one thing, can you take a clearer picture??



That pic was taken with my cell phone. If i can borrow my sister's digital camera i'll take and post a few more pics. My old digital camera uses XD cards and the only PC in the house that had a slot for them just died 3 weeks ago.
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