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Re: Prices continue to rise on Transformers toys and other popular brands

Postby samuraiman » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:10 pm

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Seibertron wrote:The retail prices of Transformers toys and other popular brands continues to increase at stores across America. These price increases continue at nationwide chains such as Walmart, Target, Toys R Us, Kmart and others. Is there an end in sight? How much is too much? Is there a limit to how high these prices will climb before you stop collecting? Sure oil prices and overseas labor costs have increased ... but is that enough to justify almost doubling the prices of these toys in the past 2 or 3 years? Share your thoughts and comments by joining our discussion by clicking here.

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$17.39 plus tax??? if this gets around to California i’m done with retail it’s going to be all about online
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Ruthless Cynic » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:11 pm

It's been a growing concern for me since Dark of the Moon came out. Smaller deluxes at inflated prices. They could have done one or the other, but instead they did both. The new deluxes are barely larger than the size of Energon basics. I remember when deluxes were $6.99-7.99. I am tapping out on buying multiples unless its classics. It really is ridiculous. I just spent $34 on Dreadwing at retail. I am ordering almost exclusively through BBTS from here on out. KMart has some deluxes at 12.99, the day they became the low cost provider I started to lose my marbles.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Erailea » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:17 pm

Is this across the board or just a few stores playing the price hike game?

Also wondering if this has anything to do with the holidays coming and/or future sales so the store(s) can gain more profits while making the consumer think they are saving...
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Rhinox23 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:18 pm

That Bot wrote:And why Voyagers aren't getting price-jacked.

...yet. :-(

This is getting a little bit ridiculous. There was a thread I commented on awhile back about changes in TF buying habits. This pricing further justifies buying online from BBTS, TFSource or the like. Not to mention the gas money you save and you don't even have to suffer the frustration from not finding what you want! Online stores will probably see an increase in purchasing...assuming they don't go up in price!
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby NebulanFree » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:18 pm

I don't care, really. I like to find deals & whatnot, but I am a completist and will buy them regardless of the price. I see what you are saying Ryan, about the absurdity of the situation, but those who can not afford it will simply quit buying. Those of us fortunate enough to be able to afford these figures will continue to buy them if we choose to do so. I don't really see the big deal.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Seibertron » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:22 pm

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Erailea wrote:Is this across the board or just a few stores playing the price hike game?

Also wondering if this has anything to do with the holidays coming and/or future sales so the store(s) can gain more profits while making the consumer think they are saving...


I've been wondering that myself.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Decatron » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:23 pm

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My local WalMarts (in California btw) aren't quite that high yet. I'm sure it's only a matter of time though.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Bumblevivisector » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:25 pm

#&%*ing oil-prices!

To whoever killed the electric car back in the day: Jolt is hunting you down as I type this.

If I saw proof that Hasbro had abandoned sweatshop labor entirely, I wouldn't mind as much, but we seriously need to stop using oil as fuel wherever possible so that it can be used for plastics as Primus intended. There may not be a realistic alternative for rocket and aircraft fuel, but if the U.S. had switched to some sort of electric/solar/flywheel combination for cars 20 years ago, we could've led the whole world away from this situation.

And no, that's not trivial, since the rise in plastic prices is surely hurting products that we actually need.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby CrimsonPrime » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:26 pm

*Yawn* Wake me up when there's something new. I have been paying 19 dollars each for a deluxe ever since 3 years ago. Peace out~
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby toonbot » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:28 pm

Prices can go up it costs more to make...

But I believe it is because the demand is so high. Collectors buy out these toys as soon as they hit the shelves(you know who you are). Collectors will continue to snatch these toys up no matter the cost and Hasbro will continue to raise it.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Bubbah » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:34 pm

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Wow, there is no way I can be reading that price tag correctly! You know it's bad when that officially puts Wal-Mart as the most expensive retail store. I never thought I'd see the day TRU beat WM at deluxe pricing! Well, if that happens here, my buying strategy will be changing tremendously. I've been considering ditching the smaller lines (save a few here and there that really grab me) and focusing on MP's alone, and this may be the move that does it. With the increase in number of MP's, not to mention how great they're coming along, it's getting harder to resist. And as much as I love the show Prime, most of the toys are decent, but very few "must haves", it's been mostly for the completionist in me. I understand price increases, I really do... but (roughly) $7 in 2 or 3 years?!? Yeah, I've gotta draw a line somewhere ... :-?
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby PrymeStriker » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:40 pm

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Are you frigging kidding me? That's it...I'm not buying toys at retail anymore. :roll:
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Tresob » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:40 pm

In the last three years, I have rarely paid retail for any figure in any line. The hobby has been too expensive for my income for a while now.

Most of my purchases are either from reduced-price liquidators like Marshalls or old lots on eBay.

On a related note, I think this is one of the reasons why Cyberverse and Kre-o are so popular. It's a bit like the Squinkees phenomena. When the regular-scale toys are so expensive, the micro-scales seem like a bargain by comparison (even if they aren't).
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Mkall » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:48 pm

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It's not the rising costs that bothers me too much so long as quality wasn't sacrificed as well. But with rising costs mixed with diminishing quality and it's no wonder 3rd Parties are getting more and more collector attention.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby datguy86 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:03 pm

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Part of this is the holiday season. Prices will relax come February.

Another part of this might be due to competing toy packaging within the same line of toys. Prime, Generations, Bot Shots and Cyberverse - these are all competing for the same shelf space while ultimately being the same thing. And quite frankly, that's a frustrating product to sell because consumers want one and maybe not the other.

Raising the prices also means store can hold "sales" where the product remains "discounted" throughout the season. Of course, the sale price is the the MSRP. HTS always offers the toys at MSRP (though it is telling FoC/Generations went from $12.00 with OP, Jazz and Shockwave to $15.00 with the Combaticons).

Some food for thought.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby Megatron Wolf » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:08 pm

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this is getting out of hand now, do they really expect kids, parents & collectors to pay these outlandish prices? but this just proves the point ive been trying to make for the past year, if you dont fight it then its just going to get worse. I bet if we all stop buying then the prices would go back down. Yes i understand that oil has gone up but not enough to raise the prices this much. And this isnt the first time the price of oil has gone up, the last few times it did the prices didnt even fluctuate and if they did it was by very little. The main reason why prices are going up is because they see that there are still morons out there that will pay any price to get the product, thus the price goes up & other people cant afford to get them so they feel special in the end. Or they just dont give a flying frak. Also the holidays are coming and parents get really stupid around this time of year and will pay anything to get little timmy that toy he wants. So is it time for the fandoms to come together and fight this bullshit or are you people who "have to have it now" or "im a completionist and cant risk not getting it" or "the price gouging is justified" going to continue to frak the rest of us over? Eventually its going to reach a point as to where you wont even be able or be willing to pay the price they're asking. Suck up your goddamn pride & ego for a little while and help the rest of your fellow collectors out. In the end we all win, plus theres ebay so youll still be able to get what you want later on to complete that precious collection of yours.

On another note i am ashamed that its come down to this, companies preying on kids like this especially when the economy is shot to shit. I can only imagine how many kids have been unable to buy that toy that they want cause everytime they go to get it & they think they've save up enough the price is higher. All this is going to do is alienate people away from the product and thats going to screw everyone in the long run. A kid is going to realize eventually that hes getting screwed and go elsewhere, remember video games are just as big as toys these days and i wouldnt be surprised if alot of kids start saving their money to get more games than transformers or power rangers. Thats what ive been doing, ive been buying cheap figures off ebay (not just transformers either) & putting the rest of the money towards video games. And now that i look back i saved alot of money. Yeah it does suck that i cant go and get that new figure i want but ive learned to wait and ill pick it up on clearance and if i dont get it then oh well, my collection is still over 1000 strong. 1347 if i remember correctly.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby LordBludgeon » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:10 pm

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Hmm... I was just at Wal-Mart yesterday and for me they are still listed at 12.99. Hopefully they don't get increased too much in my neck of the woods.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby RodimalToyota » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:19 pm

They are going up, to go on sale. It's what they usually do right befor a sale..

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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby omega666 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:23 pm

Well shoot, I guess I'm done collecting. Nice job Hasbro. Looks like only 3rd party for me. At least they make figures I actually enjoy.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby NTESHFT » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:25 pm

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I'm done with retail, myself. If I'm gonna spend an absurd amount of money, might as well just save it for the MP line. And if there is a Prime toy (which is now far and few between) it will be Takara. The rest goes to the 3rd party guys. Yeah, I'm just about done with Hasblo....
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby NTESHFT » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:26 pm

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I'm done with retail, myself. If I'm gonna spend an absurd amount of money, might as well just save it for the MP line. And if there is a Prime toy (which is now far and few between) it will be Takara. The rest goes to the 3rd party guys. Yeah, I'm just about done with Hasblo....
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby G1 Legacy » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:26 pm

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You have got to be kidding me?! Just when I begin to work on my anger issues with this franchise THIS has to happen LOL. All kidding aside, I just don't see how they could possibly think that this is gonna fly. I mean they went from $9.99 to $11.99 in the past few years and then they raised them to $14.99 this summer on the heels of their Botcon unveiling (using less plastic to make the toy mind you)and your telling me that now TARGET is charging close to 18 bucks. The phrase WTF comes to mind. The only thing I can think of is they are trying to catch potential Christmas revenue to boost End of Quarter totals.

This does seem like good old fashioned greed in effect. I wouldn't be the least bit suprised if this doesn't result in some type of backlash. I like the FOC game but I havn't been the least bit impressed with the figure line associated with it. I'm still trying to figure out what classifies this as a "Generations" line but thats a different discussion. And their charging MORE for these? I mean its ludicrous. I'm well aware that their are plenty of you that like the new line and have the expendable income but doesnt it hurt just a little bit when your forking over that cash or plastic at the register versus what your getting in return? #-o

I bet their will be a ton of peg warmers come the first of the year. And then you'll see a price drop back to previous rates.

For me personaly this has been such a tough year for this hobby. Botcon came too early, prices skyrocketing, the FunPub fiasco and nothing really good coming out except in the Masterpiece line and those cost a small fortune and now to add insult to injury they charge almost $20 for a Deluxe class. I may need to take a breather from this pretty soon, and that sucks b/c its brought so much joy over the years. :-(
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby shocksound96 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:28 pm

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i have to save my allowance once a week to get a deluxe transformer. now i have to wait for two weeks to get a deluxe TF. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby OptiMagnus » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:31 pm

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Screw Hasbro, I'm done with them now. I was really getting into collecting the past couple of years (as a result of joining Seibertron) and now I just can't afford it. It used to be a matter of saving up for getting a Takara Transformer for the first time and now it's just deciding on which ONE Hasbro figure out of all of them is worth dumping my money on. This is just utterly ridiculous. I'm done buying action figures from now on.
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Re: Wal Mart Price Hike, more than target now

Postby welcometothedarksyde » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:47 pm

I'm a 14 year old who doesn't really have a steady job, and I simply can not afford this. I already spend a lot on LEGO right now, they're getting my business because their prices aren't going up and they continue to deliver a quality product. I am not going to buy Prime anymore. I think I'll just buy those First Editions and some of the FOC stuff, otherwise it's going to be Masterpiece and Encore. I think Hasbro is already feeling the financial pinch. They reported lowered profits during DOTM and they had to cancel that line early. I won't be surprised if Prime ends prematurely due to poor sales. It is my opinion that sales are down because the toys are noticeably getting worse and the prices are going up. If Hasbro were a good company they would be reading these comments by a significant buying sector of their product, and trying to save this sinking ship. I'm sorry Hasbro, but I'll be buying LEGO for a while...
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