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XDMan wrote:No, no, no, no, NO, NO, NO, NO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Remember that post where the 4th movie will have a new cast, just because they made too many BB's and yet they blame us for not buying those worthless guys!?

This will make me feel like a...feel like a...feel like...

GALVATRON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I know what my first step is going to be. I will sell my Prime toys which aren't either g1 inspired or which don't strike me as awesome. Then I will stick with only buying the stuff I really, really love like Generations.

But with the rate of "pricing" I won't ever be buying anything which comes along outside of my own biggest likes at this point. No more movie or cartoon lines for me.

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I have some insight into this situation, but the last time I even vaguely referred to it in a post on a fansite(wasn't this one, mind you) the post was immediately edited for having a "political opinion". But since it isn't a "political" opinion, but rather a result of economic cause and effect as inevitable and mechanistic as "rising gas prices" or "supply and demand", both of which are already mentioned in this thread, I will try to post it here to add to the discussion.

But before I drop my two cents, let me acknowledge several above mentioned factors as being contributors to this scenario.

1. Rising gas prices. Yep, that's affecting shipping and therefore price rates.

2. Supply vs Demand. I am sure this affects the price of the toys at least a little. At places like TRU for instance. But not nationally across the whole board. It will hit TRU(who just raised the price of MPTC 5 bucks, just like they did Rodimus after his initial shipment sold out) and the now Ebay rific online shops.

In my area the prices have increased on deluxes more in the last 8 months than they did in all of 2011. In fact, the percentage of increase in 2011 is more than the total increase between 2008-2010. It is also happening with other commodities, like cheap store brand foods and pet foods. In my own marketing dept I witnessed a 40 pound bag of dog food which had been 18.99 for longer than anyone can remember go to being a 35 pound bag for 25.00 OVERNIGHT. In another sector we saw organic natural cereals reduce the size of their boxes by 50 percent while the price staid the same.

These examples are there to illustrate that this phenomenon is by no means whatsoever isolated to toys. It's happening everywhere, in everything, because of the process of monetary devaluation known as "Quantitative Easing". What QE actually is, is INFLATION. More money is printed than there is any value to back and the value of the dollar decreases. So the cost of that toy hasn't truly risen. The value of your money has been deliberately decreased and so for the dollar, it takes more greenbacks to afford it. And unlike food distribution, it takes a lot longer for something like a toyline to roll with the economic punches. The average size of the next year's worth of deluxes has already been set in stone, for instance, so it will be the next line before they shrink enough that 15 American dollars will buy one again.

This process was done in two waves following the 2008 crash to prop up the markets and keep stability, but the newest round is being called "an unlimited devaluation" by the world's leading trends forecasters. In other words, we are beginning to see the first signs of Hyperinflation. You may want to look into what happens when an economy reaches that by the way.

The next round of commodities scheduled to appear to increase in price mostly fall into the food category. In fact, all the information I've seen forecasts a tripling of "food prices" in January, when the inflation rate will meet the drought of this past summer.

As a Market Trends Watcher, I have taken note that this year saw the introduction of a beefed up Cyberverse line and heavily marketed tiny toys like the botshots and the Kreo Microchangers. In my opinion, this is where American Tfs distribution is going. Hasbro is looking for something very small to match the value of our purchasing power to market in the future, if anything at all, and these are examples of testing the waters. Especially the CV line.

Mindmaster wrote:

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I know what my first step is going to be. I will sell my Prime toys which aren't either g1 inspired or which don't strike me as awesome. Then I will stick with only buying the stuff I really, really love like Generations.

But with the rate of "pricing" I won't ever be buying anything which comes along outside of my own biggest likes at this point. No more movie or cartoon lines for me.

Relatable.

But, seeing I only have one Prime Autobot and three Decepticons, I want to at least balance it out before I narrow my collecting shenanigans.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I know what my first step is going to be. I will sell my Prime toys which aren't either g1 inspired or which don't strike me as awesome. Then I will stick with only buying the stuff I really, really love like Generations.

But with the rate of "pricing" I won't ever be buying anything which comes along outside of my own biggest likes at this point. No more movie or cartoon lines for me.

Relatable.

But, seeing I only have one Prime Autobot and three Decepticons, I want to at least balance it out before I narrow my collecting shenanigans.

I want to pick up the remainder of the Prime line and import some from the Arm Micron line . I mean, I literally want every single figure in the line except Shadow Strike Bumblebee, mainly to complete my in-show cast, and because I like the others. Not a fan of Kup, but I'm going to need him if I'll be importing Ironhide. I'll need dual cannons instead of that cheap AM.

So this price hike is really going to affect me in that regard.

Afterwards, I'm cutting down myself. I only want four figures from the FoC/Generations line, and I already have two of them. This price jack-up is just icing on the cake.

I can't say things are going to get better.

Mindmaster wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I know what my first step is going to be. I will sell my Prime toys which aren't either g1 inspired or which don't strike me as awesome. Then I will stick with only buying the stuff I really, really love like Generations.

But with the rate of "pricing" I won't ever be buying anything which comes along outside of my own biggest likes at this point. No more movie or cartoon lines for me.

Relatable.

But, seeing I only have one Prime Autobot and three Decepticons, I want to at least balance it out before I narrow my collecting shenanigans.

I want to pick up the remainder of the Prime line and import some from the Arm Micron line . I mean, I literally want every single figure in the line except Shadow Strike Bumblebee, mainly to complete my in-show cast, and because I like the others. Not a fan of Kup, but I'm going to need him if I'll be importing Ironhide. I'll need dual cannons instead of that cheap AM.

So this price hike is really going to affect me in that regard.

Afterwards, I'm cutting down myself. I only want four figures from the FoC/Generations line, and I already have two of them. This price jack-up is just icing on the cake.

I can't say things are going to get better.

Sorry that you're gunna be hurt from this.

I plan on getting Bumblebee and Ratchet (if I can ever find him). MaybeWheel jack. Might get Dreadwing and FE Bulkhead whenever it comes out. After those, that's the end of Prime for me if these prices are going to be jacked up in the future.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

PrymeStriker wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I know what my first step is going to be. I will sell my Prime toys which aren't either g1 inspired or which don't strike me as awesome. Then I will stick with only buying the stuff I really, really love like Generations.

But with the rate of "pricing" I won't ever be buying anything which comes along outside of my own biggest likes at this point. No more movie or cartoon lines for me.

Relatable.

But, seeing I only have one Prime Autobot and three Decepticons, I want to at least balance it out before I narrow my collecting shenanigans.

I want to pick up the remainder of the Prime line and import some from the Arm Micron line . I mean, I literally want every single figure in the line except Shadow Strike Bumblebee, mainl
y to complete my in-show cast, and because I like the others. Not a fan of Kup, but I'm going to need him if I'll be importing Ironhide. I'll need dual cannons instead of that cheap AM.

So this price hike is really going to affect me in that regard.

Afterwards, I'm cutting down myself. I only want four figures from the FoC/Generations line, and I already have two of them. This price jack-up is just icing on the cake.

I can't say things are going to get better.

Sorry that you're gunna be hurt from this.

I plan on getting Bumblebee and Ratchet (if I can ever find him). MaybeWheel jack. Might get Dreadwing and FE Bulkhead whenever it comes out. After those, that's the end of Prime for me if these prices are going to be jacked up in the future.

Ah yes, the FEs. I'm going to try and get Bumblebee offline, but all I want there is Optimus and Bulkhead. As long as they don't jack the price up on Voyagers too drastically, I should have no problem obtaining them

Mindmaster wrote:

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I know what my first step is going to be. I will sell my Prime toys which aren't either g1 inspired or which don't strike me as awesome. Then I will stick with only buying the stuff I really, really love like Generations.

But with the rate of "pricing" I won't ever be buying anything which comes along outside of my own biggest likes at this point. No more movie or cartoon lines for me.

Relatable.

But, seeing I only have one Prime Autobot and three Decepticons, I want to at least balance it out before I narrow my collecting shenanigans.

hook line and sinker wrote:

Mindmaster wrote:

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I know what my first step is going to be. I will sell my Prime toys which aren't either g1 inspired or which don't strike me as awesome. Then I will stick with only buying the stuff I really, really love like Generations.

But with the rate of "pricing" I won't ever be buying anything which comes along outside of my own biggest likes at this point. No more movie or cartoon lines for me.

Relatable.

But, seeing I only have one Prime Autobot and three Decepticons, I want to at least balance it out before I narrow my collecting shenanigans.

Yeah, it's just my tendency to try to collect the really cool lines that do pop up when the distribution is great and such. But now the terrible distribution for Prime and the unbelievable prices means I have to jettison all the "extras" I put into my collection besides my first love, which is Chugs...

And that really sucks because I do like the Prid line, but finding them has been as hard as finding RTS was in some cases, and now the added cost nukes it. I'm not a strict Gwunner by any means, preferring to add new themes and stuff all the time, but now I'm being forced into narrowing my interests.

dubg406 wrote:I thew in the towel last month. With everything that has been happening I'm just sick of it. Paying these prices for a smaller mediocre toys just doesn't make sense. I was a hardcore addict for many years but for some reason I woke up one day thought,"This is bullshxT."

They don't deserve my money. I shouldn't be mad after each time I purchase a TF toy. It should bring me joy....not anger. That's why I give up, I refuse to let Hasbro stick it in my @$$ any more. The least they can do is give me a smile (a toy that is not total crap) before the F'd me (take all my money).

WORD.

hook line and sinker wrote:Well, I have some insight into this situation, but the last time I even vaguely referred to it in a post on a fansite(wasn't this one, mind you) the post was immediately edited for having a "political opinion". But since it isn't a "political" opinion, but rather a result of economic cause and effect as inevitable and mechanistic as "rising gas prices" or "supply and demand", both of which are already mentioned in this thread, I will try to post it here to add to the discussion....long text