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starfish wrote:It was inevitable really, technologies are progressing at such a rate that these things are getting harder and harder to tell apart from the real deal.

But how did these KO people get enough capital together to be able to afford to build hundreds of fake Metroplexes? That's right, from the profits they have gained from selling other KOs.

Some posters have stated that they don't mind KO's so much, as long as it's easy to determine if they are real or fake.

I'm sorry, but that's out of line.

ALL KO's are highly illegal and immoral, however they're packaged. And if anyone on here has ever bought a KO, willingly or otherwise, then they are only serving to line the pockets of the criminals who make these things.

So some people on here would be willing to buy a KO Fort Max?

Shame on you, because that's the kind of attitude that helped to create this mess in the first place.

D-340 wrote:

starfish wrote:It was inevitable really, technologies are progressing at such a rate that these things are getting harder and harder to tell apart from the real deal.

But how did these KO people get enough capital together to be able to afford to build hundreds of fake Metroplexes? That's right, from the profits they have gained from selling other KOs.

Some posters have stated that they don't mind KO's so much, as long as it's easy to determine if they are real or fake.

I'm sorry, but that's out of line.

ALL KO's are highly illegal and immoral, however they're packaged. And if anyone on here has ever bought a KO, willingly or otherwise, then they are only serving to line the pockets of the criminals who make these things.

So some people on here would be willing to buy a KO Fort Max?

Shame on you, because that's the kind of attitude that helped to create this mess in the first place.

Whoa slow done there, son. Who are you to say that about other collectors? Would I buy a KO Fort Max, hell yeah I would, but I also have already plunked down a few hundred to get the original. As I have with all the other KOs I got, I already spent money on the originals. So don't you run around passing judgment on myself or any other collector who happens to like picking up a KO here and there. That said, however the KOs I purchased were obviously KOs, this type of situation I disagree with.

torgo1 wrote:hmmm...
Mine bears the "H2208" mark of the beast but doesn't have the lines around it. My eyes aren't keen enough to tell if there is any yellow overlay on the grid, but all the TakaraTomy labels look good. I opened mine to check and it does have the rivets on the wheels. I never had Metroplex, were his legs kind of loose where they snapped together up near the knee?

*Update - December 23, 2008: Sweet! I just got a reply from TFSource:

"Hi ___________,

We unfortunately didn’t receive any email on Saturday, but we’ve been having email issues all week. Sorry to hear about the Metroplex, please see the below.

No problem and we do apologize for the KO product being shipped, as our policy is never to misrepresent any items to our customers. We rarely carry any KO’s, but if we do we always clearly label them as such. To support our holiday sale we actually ordered from 4 suppliers, of which one shipped the KO’s. Fortunately we were able to catch this after shipping less than 10% of orders with the KO product. We have filed a claim against the seller, as well as contacted Takara/Tomy with his name and address, as well as website, to report him for selling counterfeit products, as well as misrepresenting goods to customers as we have email communication stating that this was legitimate Takara/Tomy product.

At our cost, we also have purchased twice the amount of KO’s shipped out, to fill any claims, from a legitimate supplier. So by all means please send your purchase back no questions asked, and we will send a replacement as well as refund shipping for the inconvenience. Normally we are good at identifying this product but the information regarding the counterfeit wasn’t readily available and we also receive so many orders during the holiday, we really weren’t looking for it, so it is our oversight. Apologies for the unfortunate situation, and the address for mailing your KO Metroplex back is below.

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Thanks and Happy Holidays!

Curt"

I'm very glad that they are taking care of this issue immediately and to the best of their abilities. And yes, TFSource is still AAA+ in my books.