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WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

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WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby Valandar » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:00 pm

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Okay, I currently own three roughly equal-sized "Cybertron mode" Optimus Primes - War for Cybertron, Fall of Cybertron, and Titanium War Within. Just a quick overview:

1 ) VEHICLE MODES

WFC loses, but only barely. It blank, undetailed front end, combined with extremely fiddly transform leaving gaps and panels all over the place, really make WFC's vehicle mode disappointing.

TiWWI is in second, but not by much. It's a much more visually interesting vehicle, but the clearly visible hands, and general appearance of a robot on its belly holding its arms behind it, take significant points away.

Far and away, FoC has the best vehicle mode of the three. Chunkier than TiWWI, and more detailed than WFC, it has an agressive look to it lacking in the other two, as well as not relying on a fake chest like WFC.


2 ) TRANSFORMATION

TiWWI fails hard. Parts fall off at the slightest touch, pegs and tabs either refuse to stay in or refuse to budge once in, and in general it's a boring transform.

WFC is a much more complex and detailed transform, but it has the same flaw as some middle-period Cl/Gen/Uni/etc figures (*coughIronhidecough*), namely relying too much on tiny panels that are tough as heck to slide into place. It's the most complex of the three, and it shows - to its detriment, sadly.

FoC once again wins. It has a simpler transform than WFC but more complex than TiWWI, with a solid alt mode that isn't falling apart at a touch or separating panels when moved.


3 ) ROBOT MODE

A much closer race, here. However, TiWWI once again falls short of its later, all-plastic cousins. Its articulation is lesser, and as you attempt to pose it once again body parts (usually the shoulder) fall off, and the weight of its componants makes some poses pretty much impossible.

As to WfC vs FoC... it's down to personal taste. Click the link below to see a nice comparison between the two in Seib's galleries:

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... 818/2/144/

In my personal opinion, FoC wins here as well. It's more self-contained, with fewer widdly bits hanging off, with a more athletic build. On the other hand, WFC is more detailed, beefier, and simply larger.

Okay, now to prove that this isn't a review thread, and get on to the meat of what I was trying to say:

FoC IS NOT BAD. The actual overall design of the figures is at LEAST equal to, if not better than, what we got in many previous lines. Yes, they're smaller. Yes, they're made of slightly lighter plastics. Yes, some characters could have been done much better (I'm looking at you, "Short Legs" Jazz). But, no, they are not that bad.

I've seen people wail and moan and complain about the latest figures, usually for the size and plastic content, but I've even heard people complain about the look of FoC Prime, which is what prompted this entire rant. And, in my opinion? There's no reason. People are just complaining for the sake of complaining, or making mountains out of molehills.


FOR THE TL;DR CROWD:

New figures not that bad, complaining sucks. :BOT:
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby gavinfuzzy » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:24 pm

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You know, if FOC Prime came in the same size as WFC Prime, I'll be very happy. The mold is decent. Just that the small size pisses me off.
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby RK_Striker_JK_5 » Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:37 pm

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If that WWI Prime was made with all plastic, that'd solve a bunch of problems right then and there. Still weak hip parts, but not as much weight on them.
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby Valandar » Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:29 pm

Motto: "It doesn't matter if the glass is half full or half empty, only that you work to make it full."
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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:If that WWI Prime was made with all plastic, that'd solve a bunch of problems right then and there. Still weak hip parts, but not as much weight on them.


Weak hip parts, weak shoulder hinges, tabs that are either too large or too small, mediocre alt mode... yeah, the die-cast was definitely not the only thing wrong with that mold.
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:51 am

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For me, WW Prime wins all around. Love the die cast, the look in either mode, and the transformation is fun.
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby Mykltron » Sat Aug 25, 2012 5:44 am

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I've always thought he looks like a good mold but when the UM repaint was shown I instantly thought "this mold was made for Magnus". I want that version.
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby zodconvoy » Sat Aug 25, 2012 8:45 am

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I'm going to have to agree with Mykltron. The game design for FoC was definitely Optimus but the figure was pure Magnus. Somewhere I even commented that it looks like it was designed for a Magnus repaint when it was first shown, well before the Ultra Magnus was announced.
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby Valandar » Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:20 am

Motto: "It doesn't matter if the glass is half full or half empty, only that you work to make it full."
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I can buy that. I am just of the opinion, size excepted, that this is the best of the three molds for a "Pre-Earth" Optimus Prime. :)
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby Philthy » Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:04 pm

The best way to solve this is with a race, or maybe a shooting contest.
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby RAcast » Mon Aug 27, 2012 4:06 pm

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Philthy wrote:The best way to solve this is with a race, or maybe a shooting contest.

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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby craggy » Mon Aug 27, 2012 5:37 pm

Valandar wrote:

FOR THE TL;DR CROWD:

New figures not that bad, complaining sucks. :BOT:

I actually did read all of that, but didn't want to quote it all, because the last statement sums up pretty well...

Of course, by your logic wouldn't complaining about older figures...and those complaining about newer figures also suck?

Personally, WFC Prime is my Pre-Earth Prime, but I am looking forward to FOC Magnus.

edit: also TiWWI is just silly. Why is the acroynm for The War Within WWI now? War With In? War With Ian?
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby Valandar » Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:34 am

Motto: "It doesn't matter if the glass is half full or half empty, only that you work to make it full."
Weapon: Particle Beam Cannon
Naw, it's "TiWWI" because it's more fun to say when you say the acronym aloud - "Tee Wee" :D
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Re: WFC vs FOC vs TiWWI - A Prime Challenge

Postby craggy » Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:57 pm

admittedly, that is more fun
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