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What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby dinogeist » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:01 pm

What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Would anyone here care or mind?

would it be a good or bad move?

Instead of involving a civilian cast & making the human cast shorter/less in the TF 4,5 & So forth movie. how about just focusing on Josh Duhamel & his military crew.

Less of a human cast would involve giving the robots more screen time,more dialogue lines,more story/arcs/plots.

Personally,I think Josh Duhamel is a very talented man & he'd do a better job than shia as the main human star of the TF 4,5 & so forth live action movies.

In the 2007 TF Movie,the Josh duhamel/Lenox had a wife & baby. so the wife & baby can get added into the TF 4,5 & so forth TF live action movies.

IMHO,Shia la bouf's,Sam character has run it's course. their really isn't much for him to do in these TF 4,5 & So forth TF live action movies. Sam seemed to get in the way & have no real purpose in the TF 3 movie.

FWIW,What would shia la bouf's,Sam character do & learn in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF live action movies. does anyone really want to see Sam do & learn the following lessons in TF 4,5 & so forth like as follows: (1) get married,beome the "ULTIMATE" man. (2) Have a baby & be the "mega" man. (3)first day his kid goes to school.(4)get old & get his social security benefits & look back on his past achievements.

Personally,the worst part about shia la bouf's,sam character doing & learning stuff in these TF live action movies. is that sometimes it mirrors TF plots/stories/persona's. Which IMHO,Always comes off very cheesy,corny & forced.

Funny scenarios,of TF stuff that mirrors sam's life stuff in TF 4,5,6 & so forth.

(1)Optimus: "I remember the day,I first got married to Elita-one. Before that I was a boy,then I became a man & got handed the matrix of leadership.

(2)Optimus: "I remember the day bumblebee was born,he didn't say much,he just did a lot of beeping & honking."

(3)Optimus: "I remember when bumblebee first went to school,at iacon,he was so scarred & nervous,he cried/beeped the whole day.

(4)Optimus: "Remember when we were young,ah,the good o'l days,i use to love ripping off decepticons faces in battle. C'mon sam lets race lets down the ramp in our wheel chairs at the old age home." "hopefully my son rodimus is doing a decent job as the autobot supreme leader." shia: "hopefully my son,daniel isn't getting in the way,like I did back in the day."
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:31 pm

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I wouldn't care...but what the hell happened to Lennox's wife and daughter from the first movie!? Everyone just disappears!
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby dinogeist » Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:37 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:but what the hell happened to Lennox's wife and daughter from the first movie!? Everyone just disappears!


Personally,I call it bad story writting/telling.

In the TF 2007 movie,some of the army/military/whatever guys had wives & family. yet in the DOTM movie,some of those army/military/whatever guys were living in shacks/hotels/whatever,without their familes. they were retired & all the army guys were hanging out/living with each other,minus their wives & kids & parents.
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:46 am

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dinogeist wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:but what the hell happened to Lennox's wife and daughter from the first movie!? Everyone just disappears!


Personally,I call it bad story writting/telling.

In the TF 2007 movie,some of the army/military/whatever guys had wives & family. yet in the DOTM movie,some of those army/military/whatever guys were living in shacks/hotels/whatever,without their familes. they were retired & all the army guys were hanging out/living with each other,minus their wives & kids & parents.


No it isn't bad story telling as the wear abouts of their familes didn't have any impact of the story. And none of them lived in shacks. They were houses and apartments.
Anyways I can hear all the bitching and moaning if they show the familes.

"Oh man, thats just more human time that could have gone to the TF's!!" haha, J/K. But really, the fact that they weren't meantioned again had no effect on the story what so ever.
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:18 am

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Your shitty grammar hurts my eyes...

Anyway, I like the Lennox character, I wouldn't mind him being the main character. By the 3rd film, Sam was becoming annoying to me. The new movies could have a core main plot about Lennox and Optimus being good friends against both the Decepticons and human government bureaucracy. Of course, the Decepticons (led by new leaders such as Thunderwing, Straxus and Jhiaxus, maybe Overlord) would still be the villains.
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby Sideswipe7 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:12 am

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Lennox as the starring character would be great, he knows the autobots well and have a deep bond with them. I can't see Sam continue in TF4 and 5 because that will be to much out of his character joinning the autobots in battle every time. The franchise could have a decent story if it was centered about Lennox, he's cool and agile.
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby Skywarp64 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:28 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:(led by new leaders such as Thunderwing, Straxus and Jhiaxus, maybe Overlord)


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That's right, I'm ready for Galvy.
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby Burn » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:10 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Your shitty grammar hurts my eyes...

Please behave yourself.
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:45 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Your shitty grammar hurts my eyes...

Please behave yourself.


Too direct? My apologies.

As for Galvatron, it would have been perfect for him to come back in RoTF. I think we're kind of past the entire Megatron character and his reincarnations. In DotM, Bay made it a clear point that Megatron was utterly and totally destroyed. The only way he could come back was if any Decepticons still loyal to him somehow managed to take the Matrix from Prime and used it to revive him, but even then it might not work as Prime hacked his head in half, destroying whatever was left of his already malfunctioning cerebral circuits. There are no shards of the Cube left. It could happen, but it would require another strong leader of the Decepticons, such as the ones I mentioned before. I would like to see Cyclonus, but only if his personality is more like the insane Armada version, not the stoic G1, even if I like that alt mode better...
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Re: What if,Josh Duhamel,replaced shia,as the main star in the TF 4,5 & so forth TF movies.

Postby At0mic Cav3man » Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:18 pm

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If we're gonna end up stuck with Bay for another three movies, I'd LOVE to see Lennox take over as the new main human character. He's far less annoying than Sam, and he already has a built in relationship with the Autobots. The NEST team was the human part of the first three movies that I actually enjoyed. Heck, I even liked Epps, and I generally don't like Tyrese much in anything. It's entirely possible that The Beef was just so annoying that he made the other humans in the movie look good.
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