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The biggest problem with RID Magnus is his legs are a bit too long, but he can combine well with Prime and his trailer can be configured in multiple ways.

And ROTF Prime's ultra-hard and frustrating transformation puts it below MP Prime, who looks like he stepped off the TV screen and isn't frustrating to transform.

Don't know if I can choose 1. But I'm a big fan of the classics line at the moment. All the classics figures I have have great articulation, they look fantastic in both modes, and a couple ingenius ideas on how to get things in (bumblebee's jetpack turns into a jet ski on a trailer, GENIUS, but I do wish his feet weren't so klunky).

Animated Prowl

Motorcycle mode is almost completely free of kibble from every angle, only the fingertips are visible from the rear, that's it. Robot mode is also extremely free of kibble, where the usual motorcycle bots have nose blocks that become hunchback growths or wheels that become extra appendages, all of those elements have been integrated cleanly and beautifully into robot mode. The only thing that can even be construed as kibble are the back fins, and even those flow nicely.

This flows right into the posability, this being one of the most posable bots ever made. Not only is he all ball joints, but the side effect of the wheel integration is that his knees are double-jointed, making him one of the few transformers that can crouch.

With perks like show accuracy and little extras like his ninja star hubcaps, I would qualify Animated Prowl as not just the best motorcycle tranformer ever designed, but one of the best transformer designs ever.

(Yes, MP Prime is a much more engenious design and transformation, but this is one of the few bots whose posability rivals MP Prime.)

Leader Class Optimus

alldarker wrote:This of course also applies to the live action movie Transformers toys, with RotF Optimus as the 'prime' example of taking screen imaginations to a relatively small scale toy and recreating it almost perfectly. Same goes for a lot of the other movie line toys, of course: I don't own RotF OP myself but I do enjoy the intricacies of Ice Cream Mudflap and Skids, Bumblebee and Sideswipe.

This.These guy get overlooked too much.
ROTF Optimus is only scary the first time,once you get the hang of it,is alot easier.

icenemesis wrote:Out of curiosity what toy do you think has the best design and transformation. No bashing on movie, animated or unicron trilogy please.

I just HATE when people ask what is the "best" something. There's too many variables to consider, most of them being personal tastes.

Kibble wrote:

icenemesis wrote:Out of curiosity what toy do you think has the best design and transformation. No bashing on movie, animated or unicron trilogy please.

Can we still bash Beast Wars?

Why are people reacting to this thread with horror? Yes it is subjective but I'm sure that the OP knows that and isn't trying to start WWIII. Opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one. Let's embrace that and move on

Anyway without further ado, here are my bestest ones.

Supreme: Armada Unicron - it's Unicron, nuff said.
Ultra: Masterpiece Grimlock - Simplistic transformation, awesome aesthetics
Voyager: Cybertron Vector Prime - Beautifully detailed, well proportioned, badass
Deluxe: 'Battle in Space' Cyclonus - Superb from pointy ears to toe
Scout: ROTF Air Raid - a really neat, poseable figure
Legends: Perfect Effect Reflector - perfect being the operative word

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Primus yet. He's superior to Unicron in alt-mode, transformation scheme (love that key system) and robot detaling. Sure, the character was designed as a toy and hasn't existed for as long as Unicron, but the figure is just incredible. His Cybertron mode also manages to fit in any universe you'd like, from G1 all the way to Aligned.

Buster Prime, or the ROTF Optimus mold.

IMO, it seriously must have taken alot of work to get it that accurate to the movie in both modes. Plus, buster has great paint, down to the pinstriping on the flames. I cant be 100% sure, but it could very well be the TF with the most paint apps. The whole body is silver paint!

gavinfuzzy wrote:Buster Prime, or the ROTF Optimus mold.

IMO, it seriously must have taken alot of work to get it that accurate to the movie in both modes. Plus, buster has great paint, down to the pinstriping on the flames. I cant be 100% sure, but it could very well be the TF with the most paint apps. The whole body is silver paint!

HA Jazz is also slathered in silver paint.

For me, based on my collection,

Leader- Rotf Optimus Prime for all of the Previously mentioned reasons
//honorable mention to Beast Machines Ultra Jetstorm, he's great on both modes, his geared gimmickry is superb (and awesome!) and he just looks really good overall, if not totally screen accurate.

Voyager- this one is tougher, but I think I have to give HA Jazz the edge over the original Optimus Primal. Primal is objectively pretty great, but a lot of love(and paint) went into Jazz's design, and his joints are top notch.

Deluxe- tie between Generations Drift and Warpath. They're both awesome in both modes, and are just designed really nicely. Drift has swords, swords man! And Warpath was one of my favorite toys when I was a kid, it's such a great update of the character.

Scout- Easily, Rotf Breacher. I love his modes, transformation, and I immediately fell in love with his head sculpt. His only real flaw are the chunks of arm kibble, but that's completely ignorable.

Legends- Megatron loses points for being difficult to transform, Cybertron Jetfire is pretty cool, but his articulation leaves you wanting a bit more... I'd have to give it to Prime cyber verse Cliffjumper. I really like this mold, it's so well articulated for the size class, and it just looks good.