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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

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I like you Legendaryantihero, so dont take this the wrong way, but I highly disagree. I dont see how that is a good design in any way. Both the legs and arms are obvious and there isnt much of a transformation. The hands dont even try to hide. It also has a really cheap feel to it.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

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Japanese version Landmine from 2008
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby william-james88 » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:50 pm

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RAR wrote:Japanese version Landmine from 2008


Is that the movie mold?
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

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Guys. Try to make an effort. At least, specify WHY a TF is one of the best in term of design. Just stating a name is not only lazy, it's useless.

Now that is said, allow me to nominate G1 Jetfire. Truly a figure that is ahead of it's time. The transformation is fairly complicated, it's not a brick with numerous articulation points, and the removable armor give a nice option. It also feel very solid. When playing with G1 Jetfire, it don't feel like a G1 toy at all. It feel like a modern Masterpiece, pre-MP10 era!

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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Guys. Try to make an effort. At least, specify WHY a TF is one of the best in term of design. Just stating a name is not only lazy, it's useless.

I shall take you up on that. Swerve is the best because he has great articulation on a small scale, has convincing robots and vehicle modes, transforms very fast and clean and is very durable. And he has some nice paint work and rolls very well :BOT:
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby SkyWarpt » Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:30 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Guys. Try to make an effort. At least, specify WHY a TF is one of the best in term of design. Just stating a name is not only lazy, it's useless.

Now that is said, allow me to nominate G1 Jetfire. Truly a figure that is ahead of it's time. The transformation is fairly complicated, it's not a brick with numerous articulation points, and the removable armor give a nice option. It also feel very solid. When playing with G1 Jetfire, it don't feel like a G1 toy at all. It feel like a modern Masterpiece, pre-MP10 era!

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Generations Leader Jetfire try his best to fill his daddy's shoes, but he'll never come close. For that, I'd have to buy a very expensive modern Maccross Veritech!

Agreed, and the new VFs are worth the price of admission.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 3:27 am

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-Kanrabat- wrote:Guys. Try to make an effort. At least, specify WHY a TF is one of the best in term of design. Just stating a name is not only lazy, it's useless.

Now that is said, allow me to nominate G1 Jetfire. Truly a figure that is ahead of it's time. The transformation is fairly complicated, it's not a brick with numerous articulation points, and the removable armor give a nice option. It also feel very solid. When playing with G1 Jetfire, it don't feel like a G1 toy at all. It feel like a modern Masterpiece, pre-MP10 era!

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Generations Leader Jetfire try his best to fill his daddy's shoes, but he'll never come close. For that, I'd have to buy a very expensive modern Maccross Veritech!


Kawamori's Masterpiece! Even after 30 years, it still holds out on its own. :BOWDOWN:

Btw, not a joke but G1 Bumblebee.......simplicity itself.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby StarfireDelta » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:08 am

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Honestly, the Transformer toy I think I'm most impressed with is RtS Special Ops Jazz. He's instantly recognisable as Jazz in either mode. He's beautifully sculpted, with excellent attention to detail in both modes. He has a weapon that can be hidden away inside his vehicle mode, so you don't lose it or have to bolt it onto his side or his roof, which usually looks silly to me. He's got amazing articulation in robot mode. And he has a really simple, but clever transformation that is an utter joy to go through, because everything just neatly slots into place, and both his modes look cool. I also really dig the deployable speakers in his car windows, which he can use in both robot and vehicle modes, because it's a lovely callback to his special ability from the classic cartoon and his original toy profile.

This guy has pride of place in my living room display as Classics Optimus Prime's right-hand-man, where he belongs. He is arguably the best Transformer I own, if not my favourite.*

*My favourite is actually Generations Arcee, if for no other reason than having waited my whole life for a toy representation of G1 Arcee. As the only female Transformer I knew for a long time, she was an inspiration to me as a child, and I can never have too many fembots. Basically, if there's a fembot on the market these days, I want her in my collection. (I'm looking at you Legends Sliptsream and Blackarachnia.) But Generations Arcee is, honestly, an excellent figure. If you could store her weapons inside or underneath her -- somewhere hidden -- in vehicle mode rather than having to bolt them onto her, she'd be perfect. To me at least.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby fenrir72 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 4:46 am

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StarfireDelta wrote:Honestly, the Transformer toy I think I'm most impressed with is RtS Special Ops Jazz. He's instantly recognisable as Jazz in either mode. He's beautifully sculpted, with excellent attention to detail in both modes. He has a weapon that can be hidden away inside his vehicle mode, so you don't lose it or have to bolt it onto his side or his roof, which usually looks silly to me. He's got amazing articulation in robot mode. And he has a really simple, but clever transformation that is an utter joy to go through, because everything just neatly slots into place, and both his modes look cool. I also really dig the deployable speakers in his car windows, which he can use in both robot and vehicle modes, because it's a lovely callback to his special ability from the classic cartoon and his original toy profile.

This guy has pride of place in my living room display as Classics Optimus Prime's right-hand-man, where he belongs. He is arguably the best Transformer I own, if not my favourite.*

*My favourite is actually Generations Arcee, if for no other reason than having waited my whole life for a toy representation of G1 Arcee. As the only female Transformer I knew for a long time, she was an inspiration to me as a child, and I can never have too many fembots. Basically, if there's a fembot on the market these days, I want her in my collection. (I'm looking at you Legends Sliptsream and Blackarachnia.) But Generations Arcee is, honestly, an excellent figure. If you could store her weapons inside or underneath her -- somewhere hidden -- in vehicle mode rather than having to bolt them onto her, she'd be perfect. To me at least.


Almost perfect if TT fixed his chest "non locking" feature.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby RAR » Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:56 am

william-james88 wrote:
RAR wrote:Japanese version Landmine from 2008


Is that the movie mold?


Yep, It's got rubber tires though on the Japanese one.

I'm impressed by the hands turning into the seats and the articulated fingers, The Transformation is reasonably distinct and it even has springs in the vehicle suspension.

I'm sure you could make a good argument for other things though like Binaltech Smokescreen perhaps.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby Cobotron » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:27 am

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Great entry into the thread. I wouldn't be surprised if he's been discussed in this thread already. I'm sure he has, and you won't get any argument from me.

Arcee IS a great design as well. She has always been a hard character to tackle because she has such a curvy design in both modes. Until now it was almost impossible to not have her look too blocky. I don't even mind her back pack. She did always have those fenders on her back.

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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby william-james88 » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:52 am

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StarfireDelta wrote:
*My favourite is actually Generations Arcee, if for no other reason than having waited my whole life for a toy representation of G1 Arcee. As the only female Transformer I knew for a long time, she was an inspiration to me as a child, and I can never have too many fembots. Basically, if there's a fembot on the market these days, I want her in my collection. (I'm looking at you Legends Sliptsream and Blackarachnia.) But Generations Arcee is, honestly, an excellent figure. If you could store her weapons inside or underneath her -- somewhere hidden -- in vehicle mode rather than having to bolt them onto her, she'd be perfect. To me at least.


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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby SkyWarpt » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:44 am

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*My favourite is actually Generations Arcee, if for no other reason than having waited my whole life for a toy representation of G1 Arcee. As the only female Transformer I knew for a long time, she was an inspiration to me as a child, and I can never have too many fembots. Basically, if there's a fembot on the market these days, I want her in my collection. (I'm looking at you Legends Sliptsream and Blackarachnia.) But Generations Arcee is, honestly, an excellent figure. If you could store her weapons inside or underneath her -- somewhere hidden -- in vehicle mode rather than having to bolt them onto her, she'd be perfect. To me at least.

You can store guns underneath in car mode. Pistol pegs in center with hands holing side pegs of pistol. Larger gun hides in trunk/muffler area.
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A while back, Cobotron was talking about Transformer toys which fit a certain character profile. I just got animate swoop in TAV deco (anyone want to tell me what the deco is referencing?) and when his neck isnt strechted out, it looks like he has a pointy hood. With the shoulderpads and the wings becoming a cape, he looks a lot like a high priest at the head of an evil cult:

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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby Autobot Roadburn » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:28 pm

Masterpieces I almost feel don't count, they're almost in their own class design wise. As far as mass release figures, I can agree on Landmine - I have the Hasbro version, but he's amazing, I got him as a birthday gift from my brother and sister years ago. My personal favorites are Gen Springer (I think everyone knows why on that one), Prime RiD Vehicon for the incredible streamlined simplicity combined with effective aesthetic in both modes, and Prime RiD Dead End,who I can't put down because I just love its poseability, head sculpt, interesting transformation (the legs are amazing!) and he's just overall just fun to mess with.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

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Autobot Roadburn wrote:Masterpieces I almost feel don't count, they're almost in their own class design wise. As far as mass release figures, I can agree on Landmine - I have the Hasbro version, but he's amazing, I got him as a birthday gift from my brother and sister years ago. My personal favorites are Gen Springer (I think everyone knows why on that one), Prime RiD Vehicon for the incredible streamlined simplicity combined with effective aesthetic in both modes, and Prime RiD Dead End,who I can't put down because I just love its poseability, head sculpt, interesting transformation (the legs are amazing!) and he's just overall just fun to mess with.


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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby Autobot Roadburn » Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:44 am

SkyWarpt wrote:
Autobot Roadburn wrote:Masterpieces I almost feel don't count, they're almost in their own class design wise. As far as mass release figures, I can agree on Landmine - I have the Hasbro version, but he's amazing, I got him as a birthday gift from my brother and sister years ago. My personal favorites are Gen Springer (I think everyone knows why on that one), Prime RiD Vehicon for the incredible streamlined simplicity combined with effective aesthetic in both modes, and Prime RiD Dead End,who I can't put down because I just love its poseability, head sculpt, interesting transformation (the legs are amazing!) and he's just overall just fun to mess with.


Still loving my Prime RiD Dead End


Figured by the profile picture! His light piping is so good! I personally gave mine the weapons from RiD Grimlock since he doesn't really use them, plus the transparent green works pretty well.

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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby skywarp-2 » Fri Jun 03, 2016 2:43 pm

Cobotron wrote:Alright buddies.
I took Y'allz advice. I'll get both. I grabbed Sunstorm first.
I called TRU to see if they had a sale on. No dice. So I went about my day. as I was straightening up my drawing table I found a TRU coupon for 20% off any one item. That reminded me to check my R US rewards. Blamo $10 free moneys. So I ran out and scooped him up for $56 and some change.
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So...
All the fixes are great! The feet work really nice and he CAN freakin' stand up. I like that the samari kama rear stabilizer kibble is fixed in a nice little package that is his leg. The new null rays are nice, and the chest slidy thing is weird but it does the job. I like his flame job. It's subtle but really cool. I dig the coper head and bits. it's a neat change.

Perhaps this mold is getting tired though. He feels kinda janky and cheepo. I would expect more from an MP. Some of the paint is flaking of the die cast parts. That rear stabilizer will not stay on,and his fingers keep falling off. Also, in bot mode his wings keep falling back. Am I missing something? Are they supposed to peg into his back?
You know what's hilarious? The picture on the box is a MP03 with this paint job.

All in all he is pretty cool. He can stay.
Do I wish I hadn't let Thundercracker slip through my fingers? Yes.
what saves him is, IMO, I don't have any other Sunstorms, and he's just soooo dang yellow.
Oh and the fact that he cost about $30 less than MSRP.

Verdict: If I had to choose between the two seeker molds. I would choose MP03. He can't stand up, but he looks cool flying around on his stand. He's heftier and meaner looking in bot mode, and far superior in jet.

Math:
MP03 Skywarp $20 on clearance + MP11 Sunstorm $56 w/ coups and points = no sweat off my back



You are so lucky! you got the MP-11SW Skywarp!! I wanted to get him but find his price point to be way too high, just like Thundercracker.. while right now you can get the Hasbro TRU exclusive Starscream for well under 100.00. I love the Hasbro ver., As I like the deco and the blue nose cone for cartoon accuracy better.. However, I was watching the reviews on youtube of the Mp-11 from Takara, and the KO version of Starscream with the cape, and that mold has serious issues with the chest piece staying put. After having NO issues what so ever with the Hasbro Starscream, I highly recommend anyone with the Takara Tomy version to sell theirs and buy the Hasbro ver. It is much more solid and seems to have all the issues retooled and fixed! I love the Hasbro Starscream.

On a separate note, I did order the Hasbro TRU exclusive Mp-10 Optimus Prime, as it was the eyes that sold me and the price. I prefer a more cartoon accurate paint scheme, and while the blue does seem a bit too bright after going back to the original cartoon images, it does seem like in some scenes the blue is just the same as the Hasbro, while the Takara in general does seem to fit better the cartoon accurate palette.. I suppose it is up to the preference and funds of the collector, but for me, I am okay having the Hasbro Optimus Prime, tho wish he was released in a box like the Star Scream was, as that packaging now looks more in line with the Takara Tomy ver, and is more collector friendly then the window boxed ver, which I HATE with a passion. I so prefer a double plastic tray to the twisty ties in the bubble or window packages we have gotten and continue to from Hasbro. Masterpiece implies a collector price point, and the packaging should reflect that. I also own the KO oversized MP-10, it is incredible!!! I highly recommend.

Also, I forwent the Grimlock Takara Tomy release, and the Hasbro Grimlock release as I did not like the grey coloring with all the molded swirls, and opted for the KO oversized Grimlock with the silver colored body, which fits so much better with Optimus prime and the scaling of my masterpieces on my shelf then the original release. Grimlock should be huge, and I love the Silver pint apps on the KO as it also gives me a great feeling of that Mecha Godzilla that Grimlock was originally based on for the toy line back in the 80s. A win win in my book.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby Cobotron » Fri Jun 03, 2016 3:06 pm

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I love it when this thread gets resurrected!

skywarp-2, I couldn't agree more about the TRU/Hasbro Starscream. He is by far the most solid of the three Seekers I have, and cemented all the awesome this mold has to offer. Not to mention how nice the price was.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby william-james88 » Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:58 pm

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skywarp-2 wrote:You are so lucky! you got the MP-11SW Skywarp!! I wanted to get him but find his price point to be way too high, just like Thundercracker.. while right now you can get the Hasbro TRU exclusive Starscream for well under 100.00.

Umm.. Skywarp-2, you might want to look at that photo again. You will see a bunch of hip kibble on both sides of that Skywarp, which means he is from the older MP 03 mold. Thats why Cobotron was talking about the fixes the MP 11 mold has and comparing the new mold to the older one.

While this thread is back up, I would like to mention that I have come across 2 great transformations that should get a mention this year:

Robots in Disgise Warrior Fracture and Thunderhoof. Those are the best designed toys to be available at retail in 2016 so far.
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:06 pm

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This is oh so correct. Both are ridiculously fun and clever in their own ways :MAXIMAL:
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Re: what is the best transformers toy in terms of design

Postby william-james88 » Sun Jun 05, 2016 8:10 pm

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william-james88 wrote:Robots in Disgise Warrior Fracture and Thunderhoof

This is oh so correct. Both are ridiculously fun and clever in their own ways :MAXIMAL:

I am telling you man, those are by far the best toys to come out so far in 2016. I am transforming thunderhoof now, its just so great.
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