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PrymeStriker wrote:

He's so short though. That's a dealbreaker for me.

RAcast wrote:He's so short though. That's a dealbreaker for me.

Breakdown's incredible.

Generations scourge is one of my favorites. His only fault imo is his shoulder articulation.

G1 Grimlock = awesomeness

G2 Hero Megatron/Archforce/RID Blugeon, this is my personal fav mold!

Even though I'm not a HUGE Dinobots fan compared to some other lines;

Of my G1 collection, Sludge is easily one of the best bots in terms of poseability, and even just looks (plus I love sauropods)

Of my Masterpieces, Grimlock is my fav mostly because he displays so well in both modes, and I'm more likely to transform him back and forth while some of my other MPs I get tired just looking at and am inclined to keep them as display pieces.

I am new to collecting Transformers outside the Beast Wars line (the line I grew up with) and I was looking for the ones that had the best design so this thread is helping. It seems the key is a kibble free Robot mode as well as an Alt Mode where one would not guess can transform as well as an imaginative/unique transformation (which is usually a necessity if you want 2 distinct kibble free modes). Using this thread and other online sources, I compiled a list for anyone to refer to which includes redecos since what we are really interested for here is the mold itself.

HFTD Terradive
HFTD Leader Starscream
HFTD Breacher / Generations Brawl (scout)
Animated Megatron Leader Class
Animated Shockwave/Longarm
Animated Blurr
Animated Prowl
ROTF Optimus Prime
MP-10 Optimus
RID Rail Racer
BWN Big Convoy/Black Big Convoy/ Universe Nemesis Prime/Timelines Ultra Mammoth.
Generations Warpath
Cyclonus (Universe/Generations/Shattered Glass/BattleinSpace)
United/Generations Scourge
ROTF Bludgeon/Decepticon Banzaitron
War for Cybertron Bumblebee deluxe
War for Cybertron Optimus Prime deluxe
Cybertron Vector Prime
RTS Lugnut


I find it very interesting how the Animated series has a lot of entries. I started collecting them and I actually don’t feel Blurr should be on this list. He is fine but the open space in the back makes him feel incomplete in his Alt Mode. His arms also look far too restricted in movement giving him a stiff appearance in Robot mode. So if anyone can tell me why he is liked so much, it would be really appreciated.

There are 3 molds that I like a lot and that have yet to be mentioned.

I actually find my favourite animated toy to be Lockdown, which isn’t mentioned on this thread yet. He is entirely kibble free in both modes, every peice of the cool looking car (a cross between a mussel car from hell and the 90s batmobile) is used to turn him into a very tall and imposing robot. I recommend everyone to find him. It is hard for anyone to believe how much can fit into that car mode, making this an impressive design feat.
I also really like the Alternators Decepticharge/Windchanger. He is the only alternator to be kibble free in robot mode (unless you count his big shoulders as kibble, but I dont since they are simply his shoulders). The legs are very sleek and I love how many car pieces fold into one another (the bottom of his feet, the hood on his back). Also, his chest is not a piece from his car mode, making his robot mode extremely distinctive from his alt mode. I highly recommend him.

Lastly, I would like to mention Voyager Optimus Prime from Dark of the Moon. I really like how he is an entirely new sculpt and much more kibble free than any of his predecessors (including ROTF Leader). His proportions have changed giving him longer legs that result in a sleeker look. The pieces forming the legs fold into one another so beautifully that once transformed he resembles one of the Movie Optimus action figures that cannot transform.

I'm not going to repeat what people have said already. Although I do agree what they are saying. As an alternative I've always thought TFP First Edition Bulkhead's pretty awesome in both modes, transformation can be a bit tricky.

One of the best figures ever made IMO is the PRID deluxe Vehicon. Virtually flawless in either mode but with an ingenious transformation.

MightyMagnus78 wrote:One of the best figures ever made IMO is the PRID deluxe Vehicon. Virtually flawless in either mode but with an ingenious transformation.

This.

I'm a big fan of RTS Jazz. Looks great in both modes, transformation isn't overly complicated, fully articulated and spot-on for the character. Even has nice integration of the weapons and can deploy the speakers in alt mode for added Geeewunniness!

MP Prowl is pretty great too, if he'd had proper missiles in the package he'd probably be my pick because he does almost everything that RTS Jazz does, but is even more accurate to the character and, being an MP, is a much nicer product in general. There are loads of options though, and a lot of the ones mentioned before this post made me go "oh yeah, he's pretty brill!"

MightyMagnus78 wrote:As an alternative I've always thought TFP First Edition Bulkhead's pretty awesome in both modes, transformation can be a bit tricky.

I was wondering about this guy. Is he the same figure as Voyager RID Bulkhead? Or is TFP First Edition more show accurate?

william-james88 wrote:

MightyMagnus78 wrote:As an alternative I've always thought TFP First Edition Bulkhead's pretty awesome in both modes, transformation can be a bit tricky.

I was wondering about this guy. Is he the same figure as Voyager RID Bulkhead? Or is TFP First Edition more show accurate?

The FE is the much better figure...



The FE is the one on the left.

MightyMagnus78 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

MightyMagnus78 wrote:As an alternative I've always thought TFP First Edition Bulkhead's pretty awesome in both modes, transformation can be a bit tricky.

I was wondering about this guy. Is he the same figure as Voyager RID Bulkhead? Or is TFP First Edition more show accurate?

The FE is the much better figure...



The FE is the one on the left.

Which is a nice way of saying the PRiD is a heaping pile. It REALLY is. I think it might be good as another character...but as Prime Bulkhead? No, a thousand times no.

They look like absolutely totally different characters. It's a bigger difference than TFTM Optimus Prime and HFTD Prime. Or the Voyager equivalents thereof.

Valandar wrote:They look like absolutely totally different characters. It's a bigger difference than TFTM Optimus Prime and HFTD Prime. Or the Voyager equivalents thereof.

Funny you should say that. IDW has used Prime Bulkhead's design for the (newly-made) G1 character with the same name. Repurposing's a-plenty.

Classics Mirage is one of my favorites.

GuyIncognito wrote:Classics Mirage is one of my favorites.

Wow, I just took a look at Mirage and he is beautiful. This gives me an idea to make this thread interesting. Some would give the best design according to class, how about we try by alt mode?
So, as an extra challenge which transformer do you find best by design with the following alt modes:

Jet/Plane:
Racecar (ex: F1, Nascar):
Sports car:
Truck/Train/ATV:
Construction Vehicle:
Helicopter:
Tank :
Weapon:
Base/Planet/City :
Seacraft :
Motorcycle :
Cybertronian land vehicle:
Cybertronian air vehicle :

None of those categories fit some of the cybertronian modes, we can't tell if they're supposed to be land vehicles, air vehicles, or just a robot doing yoga. Case in point, Voyager ROTF The Fallen.

Valandar wrote:None of those categories fit some of the cybertronian modes, we can't tell if they're supposed to be land vehicles, air vehicles, or just a robot doing yoga. Case in point, Voyager ROTF The Fallen.

HA! I have no clue what he was, but then again I wouldnt consider him good design in any way so he wouldnt appear on the list

Did he even transform in the film? Because his "vehicle" mode is just an afterthought.

Valandar wrote:They look like absolutely totally different characters. It's a bigger difference than TFTM Optimus Prime and HFTD Prime. Or the Voyager equivalents thereof.

Cloud Brawn used the FE Bulkhead mold.


WHY?

It would have looked WAY better if they had used the PRID mold.

william-james88 wrote:So, as an extra challenge which transformer do you find best by design with the following alt modes:

Jet/Plane: HFTD Leader class Starscream


Racecar (ex: F1, Nascar): Alternators Smokescreen


Sports car: Human Alliance Jazz


Truck/Train/ATV: Buster Optimus Prime (face plate edition for me)


Construction Vehicle: HFTD voyager Longhaul


Helicopter: DOTM voyager Skyhammer


Tank :voyagers ROTF Bludgeon or HFTD Banzaitron


Weapon: G1 Shockwave


Base/Planet/City : UNICRON (Amazon edition)


Seacraft : HFTD voyager Seaspray


Motorcycle : Animated Oilslick


Cybertronian land vehicle: WFC Bumblebee


Cybertronian air vehicle : Cybertron Starscream (voyager or supreme)


Dinausaur or Dragons: Ages of Extinction VOYAGER Grimlock


I own all of them and I recommend then strongly.

Thank you so much for humouring me, Kanrabat. While building my collection, I want some variety in the designs I have and the alt modes, so your list is great. I still cant believe how many figures from the Hunt for the Decepticon line show up when speaking of great design. Seaspray looks very promising especially since he can interact with Breacher, another cool transformer.

My recent haul gave me a pretty good idea of how great designs for these toys can get. Since I dont have a good enough idea of the different alt mode designs out there (hence my earlier question/challenge) I will give a list of my favourites so far by class:

Supreme: Unicron (any, even Armada)
Leader: ROTF Optimus, amazing how they got it all to fit
Voyager: ROTF Bludgeon, easy pick, I freaked when I opened his backpack
Deluxe: so many great designs in this class but my top right now is a tie between Generations Optimus (WFC), Animated Lockdown and Animated Prowl
Scout: Cybertron Scrap Metal

Hm, hard to pick just a few, but off the top of my head, two of my favorites are Deluxe Warpath and Scout Breacher. They both have very elegant transformations and are flawless in both modes.

How could we forget Warpath?! He just oozes Deluxe Class perfection. Other contenders would be Prime Wheeljack and Arcee. Arcee really nailed the always-difficult Motorbike transformation.