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JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Has any of the Prime: First Edition been mentioned? I have Optimus Prime and Terrorcon Cliffjumper (both in clear plastic ) and they're quite intricate. I can imagine Bulkhead being complicated as well, based on a review I saw of him.

What? Still havent gotten 1st Ed. Bulkhead?! Try to get him. The price shouldn't be so bad now. Like, 60$ shipped at most. Buy him, try him, you'll JelZe in your pants! Badum, Tss!

Here is my top 5

Due to the complexity we have:

1. Sentinel Prime
2. Binaltech Grimlock
3. ROTF Optimus Prime

Due to some frustration:

4. ROTF Jetfire because of his back panels (who would be on my list of least complex leader figures)
5. Alternators Tracks because of his legs/car hood which must be forced away from his windshield

william-james88 wrote:Here is my top 5

Due to the complexity we have:

1. Sentinel Prime
2. Binaltech Grimlock
3. ROTF Optimus Prime

Due to some frustration:

4. ROTF Jetfire because of his back panels (who would be on my list of least complex leader figures)
5. Alternators Tracks because of his legs/car hood which must be forced away from his windshield

No Generations Cybertronian (WFC) Optimus Prime?
That's one HELL of a deluxe!

-Kanrabat- wrote:
No Generations Cybertronian (WFC) Optimus Prime?
That's one HELL of a deluxe!

Oh right, I love that figure.
But the word difficult or hard never really makes me think of him. Complex maybe, but I love how intuitive he is.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:
No Generations Cybertronian (WFC) Optimus Prime?
That's one HELL of a deluxe!

Oh right, I love that figure.
But the word difficult or hard never really makes me think of him. Complex maybe, but I love how intuitive he is.

First time I got WFC OP, I was flabbergasted by how long and overly complex his transformation was. I had to rely on the cryptic instructions to held and it took me almost an hour to transform him for the first time.
I was in my first few months of toy collecting BTW. Now, I can do him without instructions no problems.

Sayyyyy.... When you'll do a Haul post in the Toy Haul Thread?
Because that last haul of your's is defenitely worth a psoit, especially for you-know-what.

1)Darth Vader Deathstar
2)Masterpiece Megatron
3)Terradive (wrist snapped, first time i transformed),love the mold though
4)Animated bumblebee(head and bumber)
5)Some DOTM Bumblebee,I have the hardest time getting car front hinge to form chest joint gets stuck

SkyWarpt wrote:1)Darth Vader Deathstar
2)Masterpiece Megatron
3)Terradive (wrist snapped, first time i transformed),love the mold though
4)Animated bumblebee(head and bumber)
5)Some DOTM Bumblebee,I have the hardest time getting car front hinge to form chest joint gets stuck

Agree with MP Megs. I never tried it myself (Not owning it) but a vieo review was more than enough.

I own Death Star Darth Vader. Oh yes, his place is well earned on the list. For me, he's not hard to transform. He's annoying. People say DOTM Leader Sentinel prime is annoying and long to pout in vehicle mode just because of all the pannel massages you must gave him. Death Star Darth Vader is this X10 because he's one hell of a shellformer and puting him in planet mode is quite the challenge. We have to start aligning panels in the perfect order for it to work. Still, the final result is well worth the effort.

As for the other 3, they're not hard at all. You just had a "ham-hands" moment with each of them. I had these moments as well and it's sad every times. If I'm lucky enough for my ham-hands moment to happen on a figure I recently purchased in a local store, I just return it for a replacement. For the rest, it's either trying to repair it or off it go into the parts bin.

You had once asked if any TF is harder to transform into a robot than back into alt mode and I finally found one: MP Megatron.
He is faaaaaar harder to transform into robot. I have no problem turning him into a gun. It's a fun process actually and I love how everything clips in and the chest telescopes. Everything is nice and compact and doesn't need too much forcing except for his shoulders.
BUT back into a robot, it gets very very frustrating. His legs need to extend and inorder to do that there are small black buttons which must be pressed by a screwdriver or pen. I also need to use a pen to lift his helmet up off his face. The worst part, however, is the telescoping chest. The abdominal section just wont seperate itself from the rest sometimes. There might be a lock in mechanism I am not sure about. He has not broken yet but I always fear most when I am transforming him into a robot.
And that's too bad since it's actually really fun turning him into a gun and a very rewarding process.