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Mkall wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

redoutlander wrote:(...) they come in. I'd probably collect more MIB if I could store them easier.

At least, you enjoy your TFs. There's a whole difference between "mint in box" and "mint in SEALED box" afterall.

You use the word enjoy a lot when making your case however you seem to use it only to your own own standards. I posit to you that those who only collect MISB figures enjoy them as much as you (or I) enjoy them free of their packaging.

It's just different standards; just because you (or I) don't agree with them doesn't mean they aren't as valid.

It's something that I cannot wrap my mind around: what's so enjoyable about having something, sealed in box, that have never been touched, tucked away deep in storage?

to be fair, I enjoy being the first one to open a toy. I buy pre-owned stuff and it rarely bothers me, but there's something special about getting a brand new package and opening it. All those MISB collectors are keeping that joy for future people, so well done to them.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Mkall wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

redoutlander wrote:(...) they come in. I'd probably collect more MIB if I could store them easier.

At least, you enjoy your TFs. There's a whole difference between "mint in box" and "mint in SEALED box" afterall.

You use the word enjoy a lot when making your case however you seem to use it only to your own own standards. I posit to you that those who only collect MISB figures enjoy them as much as you (or I) enjoy them free of their packaging.

It's just different standards; just because you (or I) don't agree with them doesn't mean they aren't as valid.

It's something that I cannot wrap my mind around: what's so enjoyable about having something, sealed in box, that have never been touched, tucked away deep in storage?

Allow me to present an alternate scenario:

When I was 10ish, I had all my toys in 2 groups: Transformers and Others. On a nearly daily basis I'd have my Transformers beat the parts off of all my other toys, leading to everything being totally trashed in a relatively short period of time.

But I enjoyed them.

Now I have them on shelves, practically statues. And I still enjoy them. It's a very different sort of enjoyment than what it was twentyish years ago, but it's still enjoyment.

craggy wrote:to be fair, I enjoy being the first one to open a toy. I buy pre-owned stuff and it rarely bothers me, but there's something special about getting a brand new package and opening it. All those MISB collectors are keeping that joy for future people, so well done to them.

this^ i love that feeling. if its an old toy and its un-opened you are the first to open it since it came out in whatever year. it makes it more special.

That's something I like very much too. Especially with older toys.

Because I already have Universe King Atlas, I planned to keep my Machine Wars Starscream MISB. It was under 40$ shipped so I bought it especially for that purpose.

Still, I'm a starscream fan and that version of Starscream was a real UFO. So, after a couple of weeks of keeping him sealed, I finally decided to open it.

TOTALLY WORTH IT.

It came with a sticker sheet with the instructions completely wrong about them! So, I applied the stickers based on the photos on the box and what I thought should logically fit. Then, removing the 10 missiles from their plastic frames and putting them on him. It now stand proudly in my Starscream collection.

I'm also keeping the empty box for the art, instructions, and because that's the only Machine Wars box I have.

Just in case someone misunderstood me about what is "enjoying" a transformers dont necesserally mean to trash them (I'm guilty of it for some of my customs however). No, for me is to unpack them, apply the stichers (if any) transforming it, then put it on the shelf in a cool pose if possible. Then, from times to times, I can go back and transforming it again.

That smell when you unpack a brand new toy, that feel when you are toughing the plastics, rubbers, and die cast parts, the pleasure of flaking the paint off Beast Machine toys, that satisfaction when you sucessfully transform it. All these feels, a sealed collector will never know.

RodimalToyota wrote:By far the dumbest toylike to collect sealed in a box.

Invest in stocks if you want riches of money.
Collect toys if you want a investment in richness of your life.

Bonds would be more profitable

But seriously, you hit the nail right on the head!

I remember the time 17 to 18 years ago, you can buy TFs (G1) in flea markets and other out of place sources without selling a body part. Now, its like, been turned to a business with too much profit! Sure profit is good because it help create a market for replacing parts or even giving you the ability to purchase stuff on ebay ( loose most often I get) but those AFa whatchamacalit, wtf? Are they running a museum or something?

Starting to remind me of Toy Story 2.

AFA stuff is crazy. The only possible reason I can see with that stuff is for future collectors wanting either a pristine version of something to keep, or possibly some dude with way too much money to open as if it were mint. Gotta say though, there's something to be said for pre-owned, opened stuff.

If for example, a joint is a bit tight (or loose), or some paint is applied sloppily, a good seller will tell you if you're thinking about buying it, or at least show pictures of it. A sealed TF in the package, in vehicle mode...well it might not even have the right head attached to it.

craggy wrote:(...)
If for example, a joint is a bit tight (or loose), or some paint is applied sloppily, a good seller will tell you if you're thinking about buying it, or at least show pictures of it. A sealed TF in the package, in vehicle mode...well it might not even have the right head attached to it.

WANNA HEAR SOME BUUUUUUUUULSHEEAT?

Here's 3 examples of toys I bought brand new mint in sealed box, off Ebay;

ALTERNATORS OPTIMUS PRIME:
The engine gun have two right sides. So, in gun mode, that gun look like ass.

25th Anniversary Special Edition Unicron:
The Kranix minicon have two right feet.

Henkei Classic Optimus Prime:



Each times, I cannot return it to the seller (No way I'm paying the shipping again) and Hasbro is no help. Also, the seller cannot tell if there's some factory mistakes without opening the box and they sure will never open it.

So, yeah. The advantage to buy an open toy from a competent seller is that you are 100% sure of what you get. There's always a risk to get a factory mistake and each times, it suck ballz. Especially if the toy was very expensive, liket that Classic OP. (90$).

I got a Classics Cyclonus with two right hands. Actually works out better that way, TBH, because the actual left hand doesn't have a peg hole. This error means he can hold his gun in either hand.

I can think of many valid (for me) reasons to buy a toy and keep it sealed:
-Already own it and just want to display what the toy looked like in the package.
-The nostalgia of having a toy from your favorite line still sealed, remembering going to the store as a child and seeing hundreds of these boxes and ruffling through them. Just holding the package can be entertaining.
-Opening a TF for the first time is better than buying a used one any day. You might keep it in the box just so one day when you can't afford the latest figure you can enjoy opening this one you bought years ago
-If you're just one of those people who like to pretend you're managing a museum and you have this piece of history.

And of course, buying one in the box over a used one goes along with knowing that all the joints will be stiffer, no scratches, etc.

Toy Story 2 guys.