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What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby Mykltron » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:31 am

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In this thread a few people have said how utterly awful FoC Jazz is. I seem to have missed something here. Why is he so bad? He looks alright in pics.
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby Erailea » Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:38 am

Why I don't like him - posablitiy is severely restricted because of his chicken legs and there's a glaring gap between his chest and head.
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby Ravage XK » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:07 am

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I dont remember him having Chicken Legs, if by chicken legs you mean he has legs like Movie Starscream?

I think he is pretty smart despite being a pretty basic design. Feels very cheap though.
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby Va'al » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:12 am

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He is quite tiny, very light, and there is a gaping hole between head and chest.

Works ok all in all, but after RtS Jazz, this feels extremely underwhelming. Still, it's a cybertronian take on the character, and your customising skills will love the opportunity to repaint him!
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby Breakdown 2099 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:59 am

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I'm probably going to get lynched, but I quite fancy the little special ops agent. I've yet to purchase him, but the more I look at him, the more I'm inclined to make him my first FOC character.
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby Wolfman Jake » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:34 am

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FoC Jazz isn't terrible, but he isn't that exciting either. I don't know why anyone is complaining about the legs. They're slender, but still look in proportion, given the smaller size of the figure overall. They're not "chicken legs" like movie Starscream either, they have "normal" knee joints. The hollow chest is a little funky, but you don't really notice it when FOC Jazz displayed on your shelf. The biggest issue is the scale reduction, and that, I'm afraid, is a problem with all new Transformers toys. The engineering is pretty clever, except for the faux wheels for his feet in robot mode. If this figure were about 25% bigger and made of sturdier plastic, it would probably get far, far fewer detractors.
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby Autobot032 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:49 am

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Mykltron wrote:In this thread a few people have said how utterly awful FoC Jazz is. I seem to have missed something here. Why is he so bad? He looks alright in pics.


Awful? Not quite.

Is he bad? To some degree.

He's literally full of holes, he's undersized, and ultra lightweight. I've held Unicron Trilogy Scouts that have more weight than he does. (It's ridiculous how cheap he feels.)

Imagine a painted eggshell with accessories and you have a close idea as to what Jazz really is. His transformation's wonky too.

You do have to flex some of his panels to make the tab and slot system work to hold him together. (His plastic is thin enough that you can actually flex him.)

Jazz is one of those characters that's gotten the short end of the stick throughout the years. His Reveal The Shield figure was good, it still is, but it was really the first figure for Jazz since '84... And once we got him, we were hoping for more when we heard he'd be in FOC. Instead...we got...this.

Is it worth buying? Yes, at $12+ $16+? Not so sure. Shockwave and Optimus seem to have their act together. Not sure why Jazz got shafted here.
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby GuyIncognito » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:27 am

Cheap-feeling plastic, the parts don't really snap together tightly so much as they kind of mush together, lots of hollow parts and gaps, poor pose-ability, and it's alt mode is barely larger than a Scout.

It almost seems like this was a test to see how cheaply they could make a Deluxe-class figure.
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:29 am

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I must be one of the few who likes him for what he is. Of course, I'm willing to bet some will make a 180 turn of opinion once the Sideswipe retool is out :lol:
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Re: What's Wrong With FoC Jazz?

Postby mooncake623 » Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:47 am

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His Chest is too big. legs are too close together.. it sucks... but alt mode looks nice.
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