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Knockoffs dont count here. Those have been around since the beginning of time. I want to know what the very first 3rd party product was. If anyone can help out here, you'd scratch a spot I cant reach, so to speak.

the Unicron.com Golden Disks?

I think it was the Cyber Fembots (Arcees) by Rabid Squirrel.

I seem to recall shoulder cannons for Alternators Smokescreen being the first I remembered.

This is a difficult question to answer.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I think it was the Cyber Fembots (Arcees) by Rabid Squirrel.

No those where actually based on two different 3rd party Arcees from Japan, one was done by JD Productions, basically everything Rabid Squirrel produced where direct KOs or modified versions of other people's items, mostly JD Productions.


Now the oldest 3rd Party figure I know of is a US cartoon accurate Cerebros head (Spike) for Fortmax.
The above mentioned Rabid Squirrel guy bought one from a Japanese collector over ebay, all the seller knew was that it was sculpted and cast by a guy in Japan in the late '80s or early '90s, the original artist is unknown, it is also unknown how many where originally produced.
And since he couldn't track down the original artist, Rabid Squirrel made a mold from it and then sold (badly) resin cast kits from it, just ask robofreak how crappy the casting is on them, he waited about a week or two resculpting it for someone just so it could be assembled and painted.

There might be even older items out there but as of yet I haven't found any.

Yep. This reminds me. Hal still owes me a Fembot ARC kit. If you see this post Hal, please contact me.

I do have all of the RSP remnants for the Hirofumi Cerebros mold. I believe that one was confirmed to be done by Hirofumi, but I do stand to be corrected.

I've got the mold, the piece that was casted, and some remaining kits. They require a crap ton of work though in order to get them to the point of being able to be used and even then, you're afraid to actually use it for the headmaster gimmick due to paint chipping.

The first 3rd party stuff were Wonderfest items. I believe the Rodimus Prime resin kit and Arcee kits are the first. If not the first, some of the earliest.

FP's Aerial Team Appendage kit.

Convotron wrote:FP's Aerial Team Appendage kit.

That wasn't even FP's first upgrade, if I'm not mistaken their first project was the classics cliffjumper head and BFG.

warwik311 wrote:

Convotron wrote:FP's Aerial Team Appendage kit.

That wasn't even FP's first upgrade, if I'm not mistaken their first project was the classics cliffjumper head and BFG.

Oh, haha, I misread the question. I thought the OP was asking what people's first 3rd party product they bought was. I shouldn't be posting when I'm half asleep.

Convotron wrote:

warwik311 wrote:

Convotron wrote:FP's Aerial Team Appendage kit.

That wasn't even FP's first upgrade, if I'm not mistaken their first project was the classics cliffjumper head and BFG.

Oh, haha, I misread the question. I thought the OP was asking what people's first 3rd party product they bought was. I shouldn't be posting when I'm half asleep.

Assuming anyone could ever narrow down a good answer for the topic question, I don't suppose it would hurt to start talking about what any given person's first foray into 'third party' TF items may have been. Mine was the city commander, way back when it was first announced/released. First time I ever pre-ordered something from BBTS, and I'd forgotten about it right up until it arrived at my door.