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News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:49 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Probably never helped that the mini bots came from another different toy line then the others

It did? Which one? I thought there was just microman and diaclone in the beginning (such a rich history).

Okay so after a little digging around the minibots are indeed from the microchange line but they are done in the choroQ style of cars that takara first created years previously (their trademark being super deformed vehicles with little pull back motors).

Thanks for the research!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:54 am

No problem

really I should of double checked the first time. Though I do like learning about the history of the first years of this franchise

News Credits: 1 · by **RhA** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:30 am

fenrir72 wrote:
RhA wrote:Wheelie. He's a thumb with wheels.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK ABOUT WHEELIE! He's.......cute......naw.......dependable.........well there was that Quintesson shuttle but.....useful in battle.............I think.....aww scr@p! I got nothing.......you're correct RHA

Wheelie IS useless........even he's creator Floro Dery hates him

He could have taken out Danno so many times, but never did. AND he has a crap alt. mode!

News Credits: 60 · by **fenrir72** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:58 pm

Trasformers by Joustra or GiG ((I mixed them up) Made by Takara for Europe.

by **wiggloid** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:40 am

I'd have to go with Break from Beast Wars Neo. He's a penguin. A penguin!

Dispensor the walking product placement Dew-Former from the movie is a close second.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:14 am

A penguin could have their uses. Especially if they're like the penguins from Futurama. They're lethal! But still better than a giant rat

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:56 am

Nigoki Gamma wrote:I'd have to go with Break from Beast Wars Neo. He's a penguin. A penguin!

Dispensor the walking product placement Dew-Former from the movie is a close second.

I thought he was a truck

by **Whifflefire** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:23 am

The toyline made him a truck. In the movie he was vending machine.

Guiledart's 'Dead fake mode'. Try topping a dead dinosaur mode.

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:38 am

Whifflefire wrote:The toyline made him a truck. In the movie he was vending machine.

Guiledart's 'Dead fake mode'. Try topping a dead dinosaur mode.

Oh, ok, I was looking for toys with ridiculous alt modes. And yeah, that's a good one. But what about Silverback's trap mode?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:27 pm

Looks more like a laser cannon mode.. was there any explanation from the designers about those modes?

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:32 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Looks more like a laser cannon mode.. was there any explanation from the designers about those modes?

I always thought they were like a sort of lame disguise mode, trying to imitate a plant.

by **wiggloid** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:13 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Whifflefire wrote:The toyline made him a truck. In the movie he was vending machine.

Guiledart's 'Dead fake mode'. Try topping a dead dinosaur mode.

Oh, ok, I was looking for toys with ridiculous alt modes. And yeah, that's a good one. But what about Silverback's trap mode?

Looks a little like a mutant Venusaur, if you ask me.

by **Whifflefire** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:20 pm

william-james88 wrote:
Whifflefire wrote:The toyline made him a truck. In the movie he was vending machine.

Guiledart's 'Dead fake mode'. Try topping a dead dinosaur mode.

Oh, ok, I was looking for toys with ridiculous alt modes. And yeah, that's a good one. But what about Silverback's trap mode?

It's not half as bad as Mach kick's "Protect Mode". The one on the lower right.
http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/0/0 ... chKick.jpg

Jeez.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:20 pm

Ah yes, the Unhorse.

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:27 pm

Urgh, these half way modes are all terrible. Here's a better question, is there an actual good one?

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:27 pm

Urgh, these half way modes are all terrible. Here's a better question, is there an actual good one?

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:44 pm

I've always been partial to Big Convoy's BFG-sticking-out-of-his-mammoth-face mode.

by **Whifflefire** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:49 pm

How about that thing Magmatron's components form? Not Magmatron himself, the other one.

http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thu ... on_Toy.jpg

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:54 pm

That's more of a "we need these guys to do something else aside from forming the big guy" mode. So I'm guessing that was the gimmick of the BW Neo line then, all of them have this weird third mode

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:39 pm

On a somewhat related note, does anybody else find it funny that we got Magmatron and Big Convoy both released as new characters of the opposite factions in America?

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:14 pm

Who did magmatron get released as?

News Credits: 4499 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 07, 2015 5:19 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Who did magmatron get released as?

As Magmatron, but a maximal, here is the info from the wiki:

For Beast Machines, Magmatron was brought over in a box that reflected his Japanese origin, with Japanese text and other elements from the Beast Wars Neo packaging added. He was slightly changed from his original release, with his missiles and sword "rounded off" to better conform with United States safety laws and has a less "glossy" sheen. He was available as an exclusive to Target stores. His bio card describes him as a Maximal, and also places him on Vehicon-dominated Cybertron. However, his separate beast modes still retain their Predacon spark crystals.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:07 am

I see, I can't help but wonder if they changed his faction in the hope of him selling better as of the belief that good guys sell better than baddies

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 2:15 am

I don't know, but I always wondered why a supposed Maximal had Predacon spark crystals when I was 10. Then I learned who he really was. As it stands, I have Dinobots Magmatron and Universe Nemesis Prime standing next to each other, behind my BW Megs and Primal. Both were assigned to the opposite faction, both bear their original faction marks. There's something karmic about that.

by **TK415** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 1:37 pm

That Bot wrote:I don't know, but I always wondered why a supposed Maximal had Predacon spark crystals when I was 10. Then I learned who he really was. As it stands, I have Dinobots Magmatron and Universe Nemesis Prime standing next to each other, behind my BW Megs and Primal. Both were assigned to the opposite faction, both bear their original faction marks. There's something karmic about that.

So which one stands on which side? Is Nemesis with the Maximals or Predacons?