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SlyTF1 wrote:MEGATRON!!!

Serious or not, that's a great choice.

G1: Ultra Magnus for sure; He deserves it, the Autobot cause deserves it and we should get a chance to see it, but also:

*Defensor (a hidden Prime)
*Prowl (He would know what murderous traits to reign in and when if all the Autobots are watching him and interpreting their role in the Autobot cause through their following of him)
In an emergency/as a temporary Prime or Matrix bearer: Trailbreaker, Ratchet, Hoist, Red Alert, Perceptor, Ironhide, Kup, Aerial/Elita-one.

Unicron Trilogy: Override, hands down.

Movieverse: Bumblebee, provided the Matrix turned him into a bigger bot- I started a thread on it once and figured school bus might be a useable example. Otherwise Ironhide, Mudflap or Jazz (all dead, leaving behind nobody). From the expanded toyline I'd choose Longarm just by going off the AltMode since the rest are dead.

TF: PRIME: Arcee or Smokescreen, with intent to pass the Matrix on to Alpha Trion.

Beast Wars (I know Primal isn't Optimus, but): Tigertron, Rattrap, Rhinox, the Hawk-femmebot (I suddenly forget the name) in that order.

G1 Smoketreader wrote:Mudflap

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

G1 Smoketreader wrote:Mudflap

If Mudflap is leader of the Autobots, fanbase go kaboom.

PrymeStriker wrote:

Fires_Of_Inferno wrote:

G1 Smoketreader wrote:Mudflap

If Mudflap is leader of the Autobots, fanbase go kaboom.

Respectfully- screw the fanbase. They attack other fans for what Bay changes and call him MISTER Bay. Fanbase already went kaboom.

My evaluation/reasoning as to why i included Mudflap as Prime:
It depends on what gets done with the chapter of his story: Just because the movieverse is an insult to a lot of things, including Transformers themselves, doesn't mean Mudflap is not Prime material: Movieverse Mudflap is a street fighter who can rival Devastator.He and his brother are also open to various alternatives to straight out warfare, eg. 'blending in like a ninja'.

If there was absolutely no other candidate for a Prime around he would take up the mantle because 'dat'z how it goez'-the Primes lead to the death and their troops carry on as the next primes. Mudflap wouldn't baulk at the responsibility for a second, because it would be very ancient tradition by his time.
( Don't assume the twins aren't experienced. They are war babies and the adaptation to that all is already in their veins. How Bay, Dorky and Klutzman convert them into comedy relief is not our problem, it's their loss).

VERY IMPORTANT EDIT: Where I say 'screw' I mean it in the Cybertronian context, as in 'approach with intent to apply torque where needed'. I felt 'scrap the fanbase' is something I would never wish on us, so I changed it.

In regards to doing something with Mudflaps' chapter- they idea of a non-Prime wannabe bearing the matrix to a true-Prime candidate should be a normal concept to us (Hot Rod/imus).

G1 Magnus couldn't even open the Matrix.

Rodimus Prime wrote:G1 Magnus couldn't even open the Matrix.

He just misjudged when their 'darkest hour' was. Poor guy. he should have realised that being shot at by a few sweeps wasn't it!

Sky Lynx.

Rodimus.

My vote would've gone with Magnus, but that'd mean we'd probably end up with an Optimus toy with a new paint job, which I think kinda defeats the purpose of having a new leader.