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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby Wigglez » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:06 pm

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I think he gained the truck mode to hide from the Abots because in the beginning of the movie, he was falling apart and weak because the lack of energon. The truck though, it's probably because it's the first mode he's seen and just took it. I guess in the game he needed that mode for a mission, but I didn't play it. I'm honestly glad he wasn't a tank because he's a tank in everything else since G2. Wasn't he like a triple changer in the second movie? He had the plane mode in the first movie, but got a body part from someone to be braught back which caused him to gain the tank mode in the second movie. But he was still ale to fly. I honestly thought he was going to be Galvitron in the second one because he died, but then came back and was still Megatron. You think if he comes back in 4, will he still be Megatron or will he be Galvitron?
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby Rushie » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:40 am

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He wasn't a tripled changer in RotF. His tank mode did have the ability to fly and sprouted some small wings to do so (see his Voyager figure), but it was still the same general tank mode seen when he pursued Sam and Optimus into the forest.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby Biddybot » Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:05 pm

Why a truck? Who knows? Maybe blowing part of Megatron's head off in ROTF erased his stored transscan schematics for his Cybertronian jet and tank modes and he had no choice but to turn to something Earthly. And maybe it had to be something scuzzy and local-looking so his campsite in the middle of that savannah wouldn't stand out too badly to any game wardens or such flying by overhead.

Of course that doesn't explain how he dealt with any visitors afoot or passing jeep patrols. Or how he made it across the Atlantic in good time, or...whatever.

Another character I wish they'd done more with, sigh. Despite his ratty alt mode and the goofy cowl he wore and his hobo rifle, DOTM Megatron had a wounded dignity about him which I found strangely appealing...
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby LeL » Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:35 pm

Megatron in truck mode is a well done homage the 1971 movie "Duel". and the Spock line is a farewell from Mr Nimoy from the epic movie scene.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby vectorA3 » Wed Nov 16, 2011 9:41 am

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didn't know that. Thanks for sharing.

I think he became a truck b/c that's all that was available to him after he got up from the final battle in Egypt.

Man, so easy how he got to the U.S. -Astrotrain took him. Didn't anybody see that? :-B
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby Meantoy » Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:47 pm

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Tidalwavex wrote:I like the irony of dotm megatron getting a mack liscensed truck cab.

the irony was cool because those involved in the movies. said optimus prime could,n't get his 1984 mack truck cab design because it looked inferior & tiny to the superior peterbilt truck cab design movie verse optimus prime received.

Ummm..... Prime was never a mack, his original earth mode was a Freightliner cabover. I should know been a truck driver for years and my dad used to drive the same kinda truck back when i was little. The only ones i know of to have mack based alt modes are: Bonecrusher from the first movie, his altmode is a mack that has been heavily armored and modified for military use. And Mixmaster from rotf his alt mode is a mack same model as megs from dotm. :CON:
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby dinogeist » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:08 am

Meantoy wrote:
Tidalwavex wrote:I like the irony of dotm megatron getting a mack liscensed truck cab.

the irony was cool because those involved in the movies. said optimus prime could,n't get his 1984 mack truck cab design because it looked inferior & tiny to the superior peterbilt truck cab design movie verse optimus prime received.

Ummm..... Prime was never a mack, his original earth mode was a Freightliner cabover. I should know been a truck driver for years and my dad used to drive the same kinda truck back when i was little. The only ones i know of to have mack based alt modes are: Bonecrusher from the first movie, his altmode is a mack that has been heavily armored and modified for military use. And Mixmaster from rotf his alt mode is a mack same model as megs from dotm. :CON:


Okay I did some quick research & it looks like you might be right.
here's a interesting link with some freightliner cabovers with some optimus prime truck cab toys.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby vectorA3 » Sat Nov 19, 2011 12:36 pm

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Meantoy wrote:
Tidalwavex wrote:I like the irony of dotm megatron getting a mack liscensed truck cab.

the irony was cool because those involved in the movies. said optimus prime could,n't get his 1984 mack truck cab design because it looked inferior & tiny to the superior peterbilt truck cab design movie verse optimus prime received.

And Mixmaster from rotf his alt mode is a mack same model as megs from dotm. :CON:



Wait, same model? Doesn't having a mixer on back make it different from Meg's tractor??
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby Meantoy » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:46 am

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nope, just like if went and bought a new f150 pick up and ordered it with no bed on it. it would still be a f150. i want to say they are mack granites. ill have to check to be sure, havent kept up with macks too much lately more of a pete fan myself.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby vectorA3 » Mon Nov 21, 2011 1:13 am

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Ha. cool. Know nothing about trucks myself so I'll take your word for it
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:35 pm

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Megatron and Mixmaster aren't exactly the same. And not because of the mixer/tanker. Megatron's alt. mode is also for a military use, not sure what. Mixmaster was just a regular commercial cement truck.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sat Nov 26, 2011 10:00 am

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The biggest disapointment for the DotM movie, for me, was the lack of a truck duel between Megatron and Optimus Prime.

Picture this: For some reason, both of them must remain in truck mode to catch a McGuffin of some kind that is speeding away. Both trucks would have tried to outrun each others, or ram themselves off the road. Then, "stealth" mode is engaged and some high speed firepower is unleashed.

Sigh... Insead of this awesome scene, we get Sam trying to get a job and being jealous over his girlfriend's boss.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby vectorA3 » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:30 pm

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a longer ending fight between Prime & megs would've been cool -although Optimus was missing an arm & probably couldn't have made truck mode work
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby -Kanrabat- » Sun Nov 27, 2011 4:20 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:a longer ending fight between Prime & megs would've been cool -although Optimus was missing an arm & probably couldn't have made truck mode work


Obviously, the road duel would have been in the middle of the movie, not at the end.
But instead of that, we get Sam hogging all the screen time.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby BeastProwl » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:04 am

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vectorA3 wrote:a longer ending fight between Prime & megs would've been cool -although Optimus was missing an arm & probably couldn't have made truck mode work


Obviously, the road duel would have been in the middle of the movie, not at the end.
But instead of that, we get Sam hogging all the screen time.

Well, as cool as that scene sounds, it never happened. I wish they would give the movie to us seibertronians to direct, with the animators, and let US make the movie. I'm sure with enough time, we could make it make more money then Avatar ever did.

ANYWAY...
Megatron's truck mode is amazing, and the compliments it pays his robot mode are incredible. Only issue? The toy has in-accurate hands. One's supposed to be spindly, and the other's supposed to be normal. Stealth force mode woulda been cool to see as well.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby Noideaforaname » Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:56 am

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Now imagine this with explosions and crazy camera angles and the trailers not looking like they're clueless as to what to do.

The lack of anything done with the truck mode is definitely my biggest beef with these movies. Every square inch of it tells a story, yet we only see it for a few seconds doing noting in particular. What were those kill markings about, or the cow skull, or the bubble wrap, or muddy bootprints near the pedals?
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Mon Nov 28, 2011 2:52 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:Well, as cool as that scene sounds, it never happened. I wish they would give the movie to us seibertronians to direct, with the animators, and let US make the movie. I'm sure with enough time, we could make it make more money then Avatar ever did.

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NO... No we couldn't. Sorry, but their alot more to making a movie than just more screen time with the robots.
people need to understand that one of the reasons these movies have been as sucsesfull as they have been is because the apeal to such a large demographic of people. I too would have preffered a kick ass truck mode batle scene instead of Sam running around town loking for a job, but Like it or not, the love story and over zelous shots of Carly's Butt help sell the movie to people whom other wise would never go see it.
"screw them. We don't need them. The movies not made for them anyhow. I can deal with the movie making less money if it means we get the story we want."
While this may be the aurgument most would counter with, i'm sure the hundreds of people who worked on the set, who's lives depended on the finacial success of the movie would beg to differ with the aurgument.
A happy medieum has to be found. And i think there very close to finding that. But unfortunutly, a movie with less human and more robot focus isn't going to mean instant success like many here seem to think.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby xOPTIMUSxMEGATRONx » Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:39 pm

I think it was a pretty cool decision to make him a truck. Besides, it's not just a normal truck, he's got spikes and rust and all that bad-assery!
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby vectorA3 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:48 am

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If written and directed extremely well, I think a TF film with 75% focus on TF and 25% (or less) on humans could make a lot of $. It's Transformers - not Sam goes to look for a job and j*cks off
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby cotss2012 » Wed Nov 30, 2011 8:57 pm

Megatron became a truck because Michael Bay had stopped giving a damn.
I do not blame Michael Bay for crapping all over a huge part of my childhood. He just directed the scripts that were given to him. I blame Orci, Kurtzman, and Krueger, who seem completely incapable of concocting a story that even halfway makes sense.

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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby vectorA3 » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:40 am

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I know this is the wrong place to discuss this, but I'll say it here anyway. The next Star Trek is set to film next year and drop in May of 2013. G.I. Joe 2 set for next summer. That's 4 years and 3 years between movies respectively. Whether these new movies be good, bad or ugly -why the *&(%&$&*$%& couldn't they do this with TF?? ROTF was horrible. Joe and Star Trek -let's take our time on, but TF, f&*% it, crank em out and get it over with, doesn't matter how bad they are. We don't care. This absolutely incenses me
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:44 pm

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vectorA3 wrote:I know this is the wrong place to discuss this, but I'll say it here anyway. The next Star Trek is set to film next year and drop in May of 2013. G.I. Joe 2 set for next summer. That's 4 years and 3 years between movies respectively. Whether these new movies be good, bad or ugly -why the *&(%&$&*$%& couldn't they do this with TF?? ROTF was horrible. Joe and Star Trek -let's take our time on, but TF, f&*% it, crank em out and get it over with, doesn't matter how bad they are. We don't care. This absolutely incenses me


It has nothing to do with "taking their time" with either Star Trek or G.I. Joe 2. There were many contract disputes, actors schedules conflicting with shooting dates, and trying to get certain actors to return. IN G.I. Joes case, i believe only duke is going to be returning on the joes side. That wasn't initialy planned. Also, a brand new director. Again, something that wasn't planned. (Last i heard, The new director is the same that directed the Justin Beiber movie :BANG_HEAD: And whats worse is that's his only directing experiance)

As for Star Trek, J.J. Abrams was up and down coming back for the sequel. Also, contracts were never writen before hand for actors to return for a sequel. Again, whitch took time.
TF had contracts already in play, so it was alot eaiser to get the balls rolling again.

And sorry, but your aurgument of "They just crank them out, They don't care how bad they are" is crap. You may not like them. Whitch is fine. BUt Billions in profits says the majority liked what they saw.

Would a movie with 75% TF work and be profitable? That i can agree with. But budget comes to mind.
Personally, i love for them to leave out all the CGI that would give more TF screen time (Such as the Decepticon ships in DOTM, and Driller) While i could have done without these, I underdtand their purpose in the movie. It was to give the overall audeince the "Wow" factor. Like it or not, they need to like what they see long before the TF fandom does.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby cotss2012 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:20 am

5150 Cruiser wrote:Billions in profits says the majority liked what they saw.


No, billions in profits says that the majority got duped by a well-oiled publicity machine saying "we're going to do it right" (for TF1), "the next one will be better" (RotF), and "Okay, we learned from our mistakes with the previous movie, and this one really WILL be good, we swear!" (DotM).
I do not blame Michael Bay for crapping all over a huge part of my childhood. He just directed the scripts that were given to him. I blame Orci, Kurtzman, and Krueger, who seem completely incapable of concocting a story that even halfway makes sense.

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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:02 am

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5150 Cruiser wrote:Billions in profits says the majority liked what they saw.


No, billions in profits says that the majority got duped by a well-oiled publicity machine saying "we're going to do it right" (for TF1), "the next one will be better" (RotF), and "Okay, we learned from our mistakes with the previous movie, and this one really WILL be good, we swear!" (DotM).


NO, your wrong. Plain and simple. You don't make profits like that by being duped. Maybe your the one who was duped by dedicating 25+ yrs of your life to a toy franchise to the point where you felt having Optimus as a long nose Peterbuilt caused you to curl up in a ball in the corner of your room.

You didn't like what you saw... Deal with it.
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Re: Why did Megatron become a truck?

Postby cotss2012 » Fri Dec 02, 2011 1:11 am

Actually, the botched vehicle modes are just about the smallest complaint that I can think of regarding those movies. The horrid writing, useless characters, poorly constructed stories, etc. are all much bigger concerns.

Big box-office receipts as people walk into the theater do not indicate a positive impression upon leaving the theater.
I do not blame Michael Bay for crapping all over a huge part of my childhood. He just directed the scripts that were given to him. I blame Orci, Kurtzman, and Krueger, who seem completely incapable of concocting a story that even halfway makes sense.

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